COMBINATION OF [1]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2]    History Shows The Consequences of Not Loving Our Brother:
 
[1]       SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 411A]
 
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,  1 Peter 1:3,  [authorized King James Bible; AV]
 
And 2 Corinthians 1:3 – 5, makes this clear, [AV] “Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;  4  Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.  5  For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.”  And we have the resurrection of Christ recorded at 1 Corinthians 15:3 – 4, [AV] “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;  4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”   And the scriptures clearly state at Revelation 20:6 – 7, [AV] “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.” 
 
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[2]       History Shows The Consequences of Not Loving Our Brother:
 
It is imperative a right hearted Christian understand the difference between right and wrong.  Interestingly when Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) was on earth, agents of the Sanhedrin under authority of the chief priest were sent to arrest him, but failed to do so.  When asked by the chief priest and the Pharisees why they had not, they answered, “45 ¶ Then came the officers to the chief priests and Pharisees; and they said unto them, Why have ye not brought him?  46  The officers answered, Never man spake like this man.” (John 7:45-46 AV).  Was his speech eloquent?  No it was down to earth and was strong due to its simplicity and clarity.  For example, his Sermon on the Mount probably took less that 20 minutes to deliver, but without doubt is the most outstanding ever delivered, see Matthew 5 through 7 Chapter. 
 
Now lets consider Ephisians where Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) stated, “1 ¶ I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, 2 ¶ With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; 3  Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.  4  There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5  One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6  One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.  7  But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.” (Ephesians 4:1-7 Av).  Here he brings out that we should, “walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,” and that with “With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love,” showing we should be forbearing and loving one another.  Also, this scripture shows that we should be one in purpose and unity as there is “One God,”  and that to each of us is “given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.”   Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) then went on to say “ No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” (Luke 16:13 AV) which clearly shows we must serve God and not worldly interest.  And he pointed out “ Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:” (Luke 6:37 AV) which shows we are not judges of individuals and should be forgiving.  However, “ Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.” (Malachi 3:18 AV) shows that Almighty God’s son will be the judge between the righteous and the wicked.  Jesus stated with respect the judgment by him as the appointee of his Father (YHWH) that “ I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” (John 5:30 AV).
 
However, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) stated, “ Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matthew 7:20 AV) showing that we should be able to recognize the wicked from the good by their fruits, and then went on to say, “22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” (Matthew 7:22-23 AV).  Therefore quoting history is not making judgmental statements with regard to the final judgment of an individual, but only reporting reality.  Even though one’s works can be extremely evil today, they can turn their life around and be acceptable to Almighty God (YHWH) and be judged worthy by his son.  There is no more outstanding example of this than the Apostle Paul who had formally been known as Saul an opposer of genuine Christianity.  Before turning his life around he had been an accessory to murder in the killing of the Disciple of Christ, Stephen,  “57  Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, 58  And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul.  59  And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” (Acts 7:57-59 AV).  However, the ascended Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) saw good in his heart despite of the wicked things he had done “3  And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: 4  And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?  5  And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.  6  And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.  7  And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.  8  And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.” (Acts 9:3-8 AV), and “10 ¶ And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.  11  And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,  12  And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.  13  Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
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[*]And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.  15  But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: 16  For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake.” (Acts 9:10-16 AV); these scriptures clearly shows that Saul had a good heart and that the ascended Jesus discerned that and saw him worthy for use as an Apostle despite his past wicked acts.  However, the wrongs of Paul while he was Saul were duly recorded in the Bible under divine inspiration “ And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.” (Acts 8:1 AV), here it tells of Saul being an accessory to the murder of Stephen.
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Why were these wicked acts of Paul when he was Saul recorded?  The first reason was to let all know that the acts were wicked, and the second to show how one can repent, turn his life around, and be acceptable to Almighty God (YHWH) and to his Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves).  Therefore, it is clear that condemning historical wrongs and wickedness is in no way judging an individual, but only the acts committed by the individual.  The bible is replete with individuals who were judged acceptable to God doing wrong things and these were all duly recorded as a warning to us.  The Bible clearly shows that “22 ¶ Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.  23  And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?  24  But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.  25  And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26  And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?” (Matthew 12:22-26 AV).  Here he was really saying, that if I were an agent of the Devil, then the Devil would be working against his own interest and could not endure!  Likewise, we need to look at the wickedness of a house divided against itself and ask if any of the acts on either side would be the acts of foot step followers of the Prince of Peace, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves).  First we will take a brief look at Catholic martyrs made so by Protestants:
 
“Well, there have been thousands of Catholic martyrs murdered at the hands of blood thirsty Protestants in the years following the Reformation. No serious student of history can ever dismiss this fact. Of course, many Catholic have been guilty of the same. So what does this prove? Not a heck of a lot actually.
Firstly, if by even asking the question, any Protestant wants to dismiss the Catholic Church's authority to teach, then I respectfully submit that he take the log out of his own eye.
Secondly, corporal/capital punishment by authentic ecclesiatical authority is quite biblical, actually, and to which the Old Testament (Exodus 32:24-35) and New Testament (Acts 5:5) clearly attest. If anything, it only points to the deficiency in the Protestant's ecclesiology since they must first establish that their particular denomination has that authority - which of course, they do not.
Thirdly, murder or any other vice, even by an ecclesiological one, does not annul their authority to teach. King David (murder) and the Pharisees (pride) were guilty of serious sins, but no man had the authority usurp them since they were God's anointed.
Now, to your specific question. There are a plethora of examples of Catholic martyrs throughout history at the hands of Protestant authorities. St. Thomas More, St. John Fisher, St. Edmund Campion, for instance, are the more famous ones in England.
Here are some brief remards from Dr. Art Sippo about the issue, including a few comments on Foxe's book:
"There are several Catholics murdered by prots actually. First of all, St. Thomas More, St. John Fisher, St. Robert Southworth, St. Margaret Clitherow, St. Edmund Campion, and the others comprising the 83 English and Welsh Martyrs. There were also many thousands killed in the 16th Century Western Rebellion in England when Catholics resisted the changes in the Mass forced on them by the crown. Fr. Philip Caraman, SJ recently wrote a book about this. There are numerous examples in Ireland during the penal times including St. Oliver Plunckett. And we should not forget the genocidal fury of Oliver Cromwell as he indiscriminantly slaughtered Catholics in Ireland. The controversy over prot parades through Catholic neighborhoods in Northern Ireland is linked to this. The prots are celebrating genocide. I consider those involved in such parades to be guilty of grave sin.
 
Recently, JPII canonized St. Jan Sarkander in Czechslovakia who was martyred by prots. The prot cults there were all upset about it but he did it anyway. There were many unsung martyrs in Deformation territories who have not been canonized.”  [source = http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/questions/cathmartyrs.html, by John Pacheco
Catholic Apologetics International ]
 
Now let’s take a brief look at Protestants made martyrs in the Bartholomew Massacre at Paris  by Catholics:
On the twenty second day of August, 1572, commenced this diabolical act of sanguinary brutality. It was intended to destroy at one stroke the root of the Protestant tree, which had only before partially suffered in its branches. The king of France had artfully proposed a marriage, between his sister and the prince of Navarre, the captain and prince of the Protestants. This imprudent marriage was publicly celebrated at Paris, August 18, by the cardinal of Bourbon, upon a high stage erected for the purpose. They dined in great pomp with the bishop, and supped with the king at Paris. Four days after this, the prince (Coligny), as he was coming from the Council, was shot in both arms; he then said to Maure, his deceased mother's minister, "O my brother, I do now perceive that I am indeed beloved of my God, since for His most holy sake I am wounded." Although the Vidam advised him to fly, yet he abode in Paris, and was soon after slain by Bemjus; who afterward declared he never saw a man meet death more valiantly than the admiral.
The soldiers were appointed at a certain signal to burst out instantly to the slaughter in all parts of the city. When they had killed the admiral, they threw him out at a window into the street, where his head was cut off, and sent to the pope. The savage papists, still raging against him, cut off his arms and private members, and, after dragging him three days through the streets, hung him by the heels without the city. After him they slew many great and honorable persons who were Protestants; as Count Rochfoucault, Telinius, the admiral's son-in-law, Antonius, Clarimontus, marquis of Ravely, Lewes Bussius, Bandineus, Pluvialius, Burneius, etc., and falling upon the common people, they continued the slaughter for many days; in the three first they slew of all ranks and conditions to the number of ten thousand. The bodies were thrown into the rivers, and blood ran through the streets with a strong current, and the river appeared presently like a stream of blood. So furious was their hellish rage, that they slew all papists whom they suspected to be not very staunch to their diabolical religion. From Paris the destruction spread to all quarters of the realm.
At Orleans, a thousand were slain of men, women, and children, and six thousand at Rouen.
At Meldith, two hundred were put into prison, and later brought out by units, and cruelly murdered.
At Lyons, eight hundred were massacred. Here children hanging about their parents, and parents affectionately embracing their children, were pleasant food for the swords and bloodthirsty minds of those who call themselves the Catholic Church. Here three hundred were slain in the bishop's house; and the impious monks would suffer none to be buried.
At Augustobona, on the people hearing of the massacre at Paris, they shut their gates that no Protestants might escape, and searching diligently for every individual of the reformed Church, imprisoned and then barbarously murdered them. The same curelty they practiced at Avaricum, at Troys, at Toulouse, Rouen and many other places, running from city to city, towns, and villages, through the kingdom.
As a corroboration of this horrid carnage, the following interesting narrative, written by a sensible and learned Roman Catholic, appears in this place, with peculiar propriety.
"The nuptials (says he) of the young king of Navarre with the French king's sister, was solemnized with pomp; and all the endearments, all the assurances of friendship, all the oaths sacred among men, were profusely lavished by Catharine, the queen-mother, and by the king; during which, the rest of the court thought of nothing but festivities, plays, and masquerades. At last, at twelve o'clock at night, on the eve of St. Bartholomew, the signal was given. Immediately all the houses of the Protestants were forced open at once. Admiral Coligny, alarmed by the uproar jumped out of bed, when a company of assassins rushed in his chamber. They were headed by one Besme, who had been bred up as a domestic in the family of the Guises. This wretch thrust his sword into the admiral's breast, and also cut him in the face. Besme was a German, and being afterwards taken by the Protestants, the Rochellers would have brought him, in order to hang and quarter him; but he was killed by one Bretanville. Henry, the young duke of Guise, who afterwards framed the Catholic league, and was murdered at Blois, standing at the door until the horrid butchery should be completed, called aloud, 'Besme! is it done?' Immediately after this, the ruffians threw the body out of the window, and Coligny expired at Guise's feet.
"Count de Teligny also fell a sacrifice. He had married, about ten months before, Coligny's daughter. His countenance was so engaging, that the ruffians, when they advanced in order to kill him, were struck with compassion; but others, more barbarous, rushing forward, murdered him.
"In the meantime, all the friends of Coligny were assassinated throughout Paris; men, women, and children were promiscuously slaughtered and every street was strewed with expiring bodies. Some priests, holding up a crucifix in one hand, and a dagger in the other, ran to the chiefs of the murderers, and strongly exhorted them to spare neither relations nor friends.
"Tavannes, marshal of France, an ignorant, superstitious soldier, who joined the fury of religion to the rage of party, rode on horseback through the streets of Paris, crying to his men, 'Let blood! let blood! bleeding is as wholesome in August as in May.' In the memories of the life of this enthusiastic, written by his son, we are told that the father, being on his deathbed, and making a general confession of his actions, the priest said to him, with surprise, 'What! no mention of St. Bartholomew's massacre?' to which Tavannes replied, 'I consider it as a meritorious action, that will wash away all my sins.' Such horrid sentiments can a false spirit of religion inspire!
"The king's palace was one of the chief scenes of the butchery; the king of Navarre had his lodgings in the Louvre, and all his domestics were Protestants. Many of these were killed in bed with their wives; others, running away naked, were pursued by the soldiers through the several rooms of the palace, even to the king's antichamber. The young wife of Henry of Navarre, awaked by the dreadful uproar, being afraid for her consort, and for her own life, seized with horror, and half dead, flew from her bed, in order to throw herself at the feet of the king her brother. But scarce had she opened her chamber door, when some of her Protestant domestics rushed in for refuge. The soldiers immediately followed, pursued them in sight of the princess, and killed one who crept under her bed. Two others, being wounded with halberds, fell at the queen's feet, so that she was covered with blood.
 
"Some days after this horrid transaction, the French court endeavored to palliate it by forms of law. They pretended to justify the massacre by a calumny, and accused the admiral of a conspiracy, which no one believed. The parliament was commended to proceed against the memory of Coligny; and his dead body was hanged in chains on Montfaucon gallows. The king himself went to view this shocking spectacle. So one of his courtiers advised him to retire, and complaining of the stench of the corpse, he replied, 'A dead enemuy smells well.' The massacres on St. Bartholomew's day are painted in the royal saloon of the Vatican at Rome, with the following inscription: Pontifex, Coligny necem probat, i.e., 'The pope approves of Coligny's death.'
 
At Rome the horrid joy was so great, that they appointed a day of high festival, and a jubilee, with great indulgence to all who kept it and showed every expression of gladness they could devise! and the man who first carried the news received 1000 crowns of the cardinal of Lorraine for his ungodly message. The king also commanded the day to be kept with every demonstration of joy, concluding now that the whole race of Huguenots was extinct.
Many who gave great sums of money for their ransom were immediately after slain; and several towns, which were under the king's promise of protection and safety, were cut off as soon as they delivered themselves up, on those promises, to his generals or captains.
At Bordeaux, at the instigation of a villainous monk, who used to urge the papists to slaughter in his sermons, two hundred and sixty-four were cruelly murdered; some of them senators. Another of the same pious fraternity produced a similar slaughter at Agendicum, in Maine, where the populace at the holy inquisitors' satanical suggestion, ran upon the Protestants, slew them, plundered their houses, and pulled down their church.
The duke of Guise, entering into Blois, suffered his soldiers to fly upon the spoil, and slay or drown all the Protestants they could find. In this they spared neither age nor sex; defiling the women, and then murdering them; from whence he went to Mere, and committed the same outrages for many days together. Here they found a minister named Cassebonius, and threw him into the river.
At Anjou, they slew Albiacus, a minister; and many women were defiled and murdered there; among whom were two sisters, abused before their father, whom the assassins bound to a wall to see them, and then slew them and him.
The president of Turin, after giving a large sum for his life, was cruelly beaten with clubs, stripped of his clothes, and hung feet upwards, with his head and breast in the river: before he was dead, they opened his belly, plucked out his entrails, and threw them into the river; and then carried his heart about the city upon a spear.
At Barre great cruelty was used, even to young children, whom they cut open, pulled out their entrails, which through very rage they gnawed with their teeth. Those who had fled to the castle, when they yielded, were almost hanged. Thus they did at the city of Matiscon; counting it sport to cut off their arms and legs and afterward kill them; and for the entertainment of their visitors, they often threw the Protestants from a high bridge into the river, saying, "Did you ever see men leap so well?"
 
The tragical sufferings of the Protestants are too numerous to detail; but the treatment of Philip de Deux will give an idea of the rest. After the miscreants had slain this martyr in his bed, they went to his wife, who was then attended by the midwife, expecting every moment to be delivered. The midwife entreated them to stay the murder, at least till the child, which was the twentieth, should be born. Notwithstanding this, they thrust a dagger up to the hilt into the poor woman. Anxious to be delivered, she ran into a corn loft; but hither they pursued her, stabbed her in the belly, and then threw her into the street. By the fall, the child came from the dying mother, and being caught up by one of the Catholic ruffians, he stabbed the infant, and then threw it into the river. [source = Fox’s book of Martyrs, 4 Chapter, The Bartholomew Massacre at Paris, etc.]
 
Now, the question is once more, can a house divided against itself stand?  Obviously, there is plenty of blame on both sides, but in their terrible actions, neither was following the Prince of Peace that both claimed to be foot step followers of, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) the Son of Almighty God (YHWH).  This is really a lesson in why we should be loving our neighbor and remember he gave “ A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.” (John 13:34 AV), “ This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.” (John 15:12 AV).  He brought how we should be “ Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.” (1 John 3:16 AV).  And drives the point home that we can not be hating whom we can see and be loving God whom we can not see “ If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?” (1 John 4:20 AV). The Bible clearly shows that we can tell the difference “7  Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.  8  He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.  9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.  10  In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.  11 ¶ For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.” (1 John 3:7-11 AV).  This is further emphasized at “1 ¶ Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.  2  Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.  3  And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.  4 ¶ Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.  5  And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.” (1 John 3:1-5 AV).  Last but not least “13  Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.  14 ¶ We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.  15  Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.  16  Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.” (1 John 3:13-16 AV) clearly shows that the world would hate genuine Christians and who ever hates his brother [sister] is a murderer.  Therefore, we need to look at history and learn from it and not avoid it as an unpleasant thing of the past to be avoided, but a warning to us not to fall into hating our brother [sister] as was done in the past.  To summarize, Sincerity alone does not determine whether one's form of worship is valid in God's eyes “ Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD.” (Joshua 24:14 AV), “ Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.” (1 Corinthians 5:8 AV).   God sets the standard for acceptable worship of Him “13  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” (Matthew 7:13-14 AV), “ If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.” (James 1:26 AV), we do not.   So we can be very sincere and still be rejected by God. The Bible says he rejects even the prayers of those not serving him “ The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.” (Proverbs 15:29 AV), “ Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.” (Micah 3:4 AV).  Remember, as one writer wrote, “We make different choices based on what our conscience permits” so we need to train them well.
 You are trying to twist and have gone out on a biased Catholic apologist site somewhere and trying to obfusciate a very reliable book used for centuries and considered an English classic since your church just wants to twist history that is not favorable to them instead of being honest and you know it.Instead, when putting my important post together, I went out to a Catholic site to get their view of Protestant wrongs and a Protestant site and got a part from Fox's Book of Martyrs that you hate as it tells what happened and was written by a individual, a minister, that was a contemporary of some of the events.
 
In addition, you are trying to trash the important point my post was making with your obfusciating, this is a most shamful thing and you should be ashamed.
 
The point being:
Now, the question is once more, can a house divided against itself stand?  Obviously, there is plenty of blame on both sides, but in their terrible actions, neither was following the Prince of Peace that both claimed to be foot step followers of, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) the Son of Almighty God (YHWH).  This is really a lesson in why we should be loving our neighbor and remember he gave “ A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.” (John 13:34 AV), “ This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.” (John 15:12 AV).  He brought how we should be “ Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.” (1 John 3:16 AV).  And drives the point home that we can not be hating whom we can see and be loving God whom we can not see “ If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?” (1 John 4:20 AV). The Bible clearly shows that we can tell the difference “7  Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.  8  He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.  9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.  10  In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.  11  For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.” (1 John 3:7-11 AV).  This is further emphasized at “1  Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.  2  Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.  3  And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.  4  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.  5  And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.” (1 John 3:1-5 AV).  Last but not least “13  Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.  14  We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.  15  Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.  16  Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.” (1 John 3:13-16 AV) clearly shows that the world would hate genuine Christians and who ever hates his brother [sister] is a murderer.  Therefore, we need to look at history and learn from it and not avoid it as an unpleasant thing of the past to be avoided, but a warning to us not to fall into hating our brother [sister] as was done in the past.  To summarize, Sincerity alone does not determine whether one's form of worship is valid in God's eyes “ Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD.” (Joshua 24:14 AV), “ Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.” (1 Corinthians 5:8 AV).   God sets the standard for acceptable worship of Him “13  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” (Matthew 7:13-14 AV), “ If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.” (James 1:26 AV), we do not.   So we can be very sincere and still be rejected by God. The Bible says he rejects even the prayers of those not serving him “ The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.” (Proverbs 15:29 AV), “ Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.” (Micah 3:4 AV).  Remember, as one writer wrote, “We make different choices based on what our conscience permits” so we need to train them well.
 
The fact is that the Columbia Encyclopedia said this of the Bartholomew’s Day massacre:
Saint Bartholomew’s Day, massacre of
 
murder of French Protestants, or [url=file:///A:/65/hu/Huguenots.html]Huguenots[/url], that began in Paris on Aug. 24, 1572. It was preceded, on Aug. 22, by an attempt, ordered by [url=file:///A:/65/ca/Cathrin-deM.html]Catherine de’ Medici[/url], on the life of the Huguenot leader Admiral [url=file:///A:/65/co/Coligny.html]Coligny[/url]. The failure of the attempt led to formulation of the plan for a general massacre. The opportunity was furnished by the presence in Paris of many of the Huguenot nobility for the wedding of Henry of Navarre (later King [url=file:///A:/65/he/Henry4Fr.html]Henry IV[/url]) and Catherine’s daughter, Margaret of Valois. Involved in the scheme were the duc d’Anjou, later King [url=file:///A:/65/he/Henry3Fr.html]Henry III[/url]; Henri, 3d duc de Guise (see under [url=file:///A:/65/gu/Guise.html]Guise[/url]); and the reluctant King [url=file:///A:/65/ch/Charles9Fr.html]Charles IX[/url]. Coligny was the first victim; his death was followed by the killing of minor leaders and of all Huguenots within reach of the soldiery and the mob. The massacre continued even after a royal order to stop, and it spread from Paris into other sections of France. Massacres continued into October reaching the provinces of Rouen, Lyons, Bourges, Orleans, and Bourdeaux. An estimated 3,000 were killed in Paris, 70,000 in all of France. News of the massacres was welcomed by the Pope and the King of Spain. Protestants, however, were horrified, and the killings rekindled the hatred between Protestants and Catholics and resulted in the resumption of civil war (see [url=file:///A:/65/re/ReligWars.html]Religion, Wars of[/url]).
 
See studies by P. Erlanger (tr. 1962) and N. M. Sutherland (1973). The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001
 
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COMBINATION OF [1]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2]   THE RARE FRUIT OR VEGETABLE OF THE DAY
 
[1]       SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 413A]
 
But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.   1 Timothy 6:9, [authorized King James Bible; AV]
 
As stated at Matthew 13:22, [AV] “He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.”  Some unfaithful men would per 1 Timothy 1:7 – 11, [AV] “Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.  8  But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;  9  Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,  10  For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;  11  According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.”  But those desiring the good favor of Almighty God (YHWH) should as stated at 1 Timothy 6:11 – 12, [AV] “But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.  12  Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.”  
 
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[2]       Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically Medicago lupulina, Black Medick
 
Scientific Name(s): Medicago lupulina
Abundance: plentiful
What: seeds 
How: raw or roasted, ground into flour 
Where: sunny fields, lawns, and neglected areas
When: late winter through summer
Nutritional Value: starch
 
Black medick is often mistaken for clover but these leaves are coarse, rough-edged and grow off prostate runners all branching out from a central taproot. The edible seeds grow one per seedpod and can be eaten raw or roasted then grown into flower once they turn black.
 
Being mostly starch, it should be possible to use Black Medic to produce alcohol. The starch must be broken down into simple sugars for the yeast. The easiest way to do this to combine the crushed seeds with the amylase enzymes found in saliva…in other words, the traditional “spit beer” made by many primitive cultures where a starchy material is chewed and then spit into a large pot to ferment for several days to produce a weak alcoholic drink. Luckily, high concentrations of the necessary enzyme are also found the sprouts of barley and other grains, which can be bought from brewer supply stores. 
 
Black medick forms a symbiotic partnership with rhizobium bacteria which allows it to turn atmospheric nitrogen gas into a form usable by plants. This makes it a beneficial plant to let grow in your garden as it fertilizes nearby plants with this nitrogen.
Labels: Plentiful, Raw, Spring, Summer, Sunny, Weed, Winter, Yards,Yellow Flower
,[source  -  retrived from  http://www.foragingtexas.com/2006/03/black-medic.html on 3/23/2015]
 
In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to  www.jw.org].
 
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COMBINATION OF [1]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2]   BIBLE CANON.
 
[1]      SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 415A]
 
And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.  Luke 12:19,  [authorized King James Bible; AV]
 
We should seek first the Kingdom of God that we pray for at Matthew 6:9 – 10, [AV] “After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.  10  Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.”  And as warned at Proverbs 27:1, [AV] “Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.”  And James 4:13 – 17, makes the point, [AV] “Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain:  14  Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.  15  For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.  16  But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.  17  Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”  
 
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[2]       BIBLE CANON
The question of Old Testament Bible canon unfortunately is still a topic of conversation today.  However, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH) knew which books were canonical and quoted from them.  Interestingly, Satan the Devil also knew and this war revealed in an interesting exchange between the two when Satan the Devil tempted Jesus:
And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
2  Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
3  And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.
4  And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
5  And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6  And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
7  If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
8  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
9  And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:
10  For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:
11  And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
12  And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
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[*]And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season. (Luke 4:1-13 AV).
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Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH) not only answered the Devil’s quotation of scripture to justify doing something, but quoted scripture to show why one should not do it.  He only used or put his approval on the 39 books we today know as Old Testament (OT) inspired scripture.  He and the Apostles all had been born Jews and well knew the accepted Jewish canon of the OT.   The Jews divided their canonical books different from the present 39 OT canonical books, but the present 39 OT canonical books represent a breakout, creating 2 or more separate books from one, of the ancient recognized Jewish canon.
 
Let’s face it Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) was born a Jew as were all the Apostles.  In fact the Apostle Paul had been a high ranking Jew before becoming a follower of Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves); therefore, the Bible canon they would have recognized would have been the Jewish canon.  This means all the quotes made by them and recorded in the New Testament were from the Jewish canon; this is further shown by the fact that none of the Pharisees or Sadducees ever challenged them on their quotes as they would if they had been from uninspired deuterocanonical books.
 
Here are some of the many reasons the uninspired deuterocanonical books of the apocrypha should be rejected in addition to the fact that they were NOT part of the OT Bible canon used by Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) or Apostles:
Not accepted by later Jews. Not preserved as part of Hebrew Bible.
No direct quotes in the New Testament from the 15 books. Not quoted as scripture by Philo, an Alexandrian Jew, about the time of Jesus. However, Philo quotes little outside of the Torah.
Disputed or recognized as of lesser value by some early Christian leaders, notably Jerome.
Disputed by leaders of the Reformation, to varying degrees, as to authenticity, and to religious value.
Egregious historical inaccuracies and other faults.
There are four main positions of the modern church concerning the Old Testament Apocrypha: [Filson, op. cit., p. 89-90.]
(1) The Roman Catholic Church accepts all the works of the Apocrypha, except the prayer of Manasseh and 1 and 2 Esdras, as parts of the canon. This decision, regarded as binding, was made at the Council of Trent in 1546 C.E.
(2) The Greek Church has had many debates about the Apocrypha, but no binding decision. It accepts and uses all the books, except 2 Esdras.
(3) The Church of England does not accept the Apocrypha as fully canonical. However, they are highly esteemed, and "the Church doth read for example of life and instruction of manners." They are read in the regular cycle of readings in the public life of the Church, with the Old and New Testaments.
(4) Reformed churches -- and most of the non-Anglican Protestant churches -- do not accept the Apocrypha as canonical, or as nearly canonical. The Westminister Confession, for example, declares them to be "of no authority" in the Church.
 
In Luther's Bible, the books of the Apocrypha were preceded by his explanation that he did not think these books were canonical, but that he thought them "good and useful for reading." This action, together with the opinions of other Reformation leaders, started the Protestant rejection of the authority of the books of the Apocrypha; nevertheless, because of tradition, he could not omit them entirely. Luther did not include 1 and 2 Esdras, but they were put into the English Bible of the King James Version. [History 9.109-13.]
 
In Evidence that Demands a Verdict, it is written (p. 36): "No canon or council of the Christian church for the first four centuries recognized the Apocrypha as inspired." Unless we make some artificial restrictions, this is claim is untrue. The books of the Apocrypha are on Bishop Athanasius' list in the Easter Letter of 367 CE ["Canon of the Old Testament," Dictionary of the Bible (Hastings), p. 123. Athanasius puts some of the Apocrypha in a separate list of "good reading," including Esther. Other parts of our Apocrypha are put in among Old Testament books (Epistle of Jeremiah and Baruch).]   This list is the first place that exactly the 27 books of our New Testament are to be found. If it was a good list for the New Testament, why is it not evidence for the Old? A list similar to that of Athanasius was ratified by the Synod of Carthage in 397 CE. Surely we should count this as within "the first four centuries," and it was within a mere thirty years of the initial defining of the New Testament. After 400 CE., the Church "officially accepted a canon longer than the Jews."
[Paton, op. cit., p. 75f.]
One scholar, Albert C. Sundberg, Jr,  had this to say on canonicity:
During the tenth decade of the nineteenth century C.E. a scholarly consensus was reached regarding the canon of the Hebrew scriptures, the Old Testament of Protestant Christianity. It was agreed that the formation of that canon was an historical process which took place over the centuries in three steps that came to form the tripartite Hebrew (or Palestinian) canon1 of Law, Prophets and Writings. The first collection to be canonized consisted of the first five books of the Bible and was variously called: the Law (Hebrew, Torah), the Pentateuch, the Books of Moses. This collection was canonized about 400 B.C.E. The second collection canonized was the Prophets (Hebrew, Nabim), which was canonized about 200 B.C.E. Writings (Kethûbim, Greek, Hagiographa) were canonized about 90 C.E. This last canonization was understood as ratifying a commonly used, complete collection since the second or first century B.C.E.  [“The Old Testament of the Early Church” Revisited by Albert C. Sundberg, Jr.]
 
Another scholar, Larry A. Taylor, had this to say on canonicity and quoted John Calvin:
But in regard to the Canon itself, which they so superciliously intrude upon us, ancient writers are not agreed. Let the mediators, then, enjoy their own as they please, provided we are at liberty to repudiate those which all men of sense, at least when informed on the subject, will perceive to be not of divine original. (Quote from John Calvin.)
 
Dictionaries and researchers define the word, "canon," as a body of books accepted as authoritative by some religious body. Thus there is no problem of the canon; most modern Protestants, and Protestant churches historically, accept exactly sixty-six books, thirty-nine books from Hebrew, which they call the Old Testament, and twenty-seven books written in Greek, which they call the New Testament. Protestants use and accept these books; therefore, there are sixty-six books in the Protestant canon.  Roman Catholics include fifteen more books or parts of books, and that is their canon; Greek Orthodox churches use most of these books, and these comprise their canon. The Jewish tradition is that of the Hebrew Bible only, of course, corresponding to the thirty-nine books of the Protestants. East Syrian Christians include fewer books than other Christians in the New Testament, while the Ethiopian churches use quite a few more books in both the Old Testament and New Testament. [The Canon of the Bible (1999) by Larry A. Taylor]
 
However, as noted in “The Canon of the Bible,” by Larry A. Taylor, there are some which desire to have an OT canon different from the one used by Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and the Apostles.  These misguided ones point to supposed OT Bible canons put together hundreds of years after the canon used by by Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and the Apostles.  They point to regional church councils by an apostate church such as Synod of Hippo and the Council of Florence did state the same catalogue as the Council of Trent, but this in no way makes the deuterocanonical books of the apocrypha inspired books of the Bible.  It is well admitted that the authors of these deuterocanonical books these misguided individuals and church councils want to add to the OT canon are unknown except for one and in that case the author is known and he was not inspired.  In the remainder they either claim to be by authors who did not write them or give no author.  Also, their authors ‘borrowed’ scripture from the inspired canonical scriptures and included it in their writings to add an air of legitimacy to their uninspired writings.  Many Catholic writers instead of denouncing this fraud and deceit used these ‘stolen scriptures’ contained in the uninspired deuterocanonical books to claim that Jesus, the Apostles, and the Disciples of Christ quoted from these uninspired deuterocanonical books as they did the canonical; and this is an outright deception and fraud. 
 
As previously stated, Let’s face it Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) was born a Jew as were all the Apostles.  In fact the Apostle Paul had been a high ranking Jew before becoming a follower of Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves); therefore, the Bible canon they would have recognized would have been the Jewish canon.  This means all the quotes made by them and recorded in the New Testament were from the Jewish canon; this is further shown by the fact that none of the Pharisees or Sadducees ever challenged them on their quotes as they would if they had been from uninspired deuterocanonical books.
 
Some state, “It seems strange to me that the Reformers would adopt the “Jewish canon” and reject the “Christian canon,” but they did.”   However, what you call the “Christian canon” was not that at all, but the peculiar canon adopted by an apostate church and some of her breakaway groups.   Let’s face it, for the Old Testament, the Jews knew better than anyone else which books were inspired, hence canonical, and which books were uninspired, hence deuterocanonical and not trustworthy.  The ultimate reality is not whether this group or that group accepted what book, but what books were inspired and Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) well knew and he went with the so called Jewish canon as previously mentioned.
 
An interesting note by a scholar, Ernest E. Martin, PhD,  is to look at the scripture found in 2 Tim.4:12 where the apostle Paul asks Mark to bring him his cloak, scrolls and parchments.

Paul at this point was about to by martyred by Nero. It was then either Mark or Luke who took all of Pauls scrolls and parchments to the apostle John in Ephesus to compile the first documenting of the books of the NT. It has been historically documented that Matthew was the scribe for the apostle James, Mark was the scribe for Peter and that Luke was the scribe for Paul. Hence, the gospels could have just as easily been, James, Peter, Paul and John rather than Mt., Mk., Lk. and Jn. [Ernest E. Martin, PhD. and CEO of Associates for Scriptural Knowledge in Eugene, OR]
 
Let’s look at an important translation work of antiquity, the “Septuagint”:
The name "Septuagint" is an abbreviation of Interpretatio secundum (or juxta) Septuaginta seniores (or viros), i.e. the Greek translation of the Old Testament of which the first installment was, according to the Alexandrian legend (see III, below), contributed by 70 (or 72) elders sent from Jerusalem to Alexandria for the purpose at the request of Ptolemy II. The legend in its oldest form restricts their labors to the Pentateuch but they were afterward credited with the translation of the whole Bible, and before the 4th century it had become customary to apply the title to the whole collection: Augustine, De Civ. Dei, xviii.42, "quorum interpretatio ut Septuaginta vocetur iam obtinuit consuetudo" ("whose translation is now by custom called the Septuagint"). The manuscripts refer to them under the abbreviation ' ("the seventy"), or ', ("the seventy-two"). The "Septuagint" and the abbreviated form "LXX" have been the usual designations hitherto, but, as these are based on a now discredited legend, they are coming to be replaced by "the Old Testament in Greek," or "the Alexandrian version" with the abbreviation "G".
 
The writer professes to be a high official at the court of Ptolemy Philadelphus (285-247 BC), a Greek interested in Jewish antiquities. Addressing his brother Philocrates he describes an embassy to Jerusalem on which he has recently been sent with another courtier Andreas. According to his narrative, Demetrius of Phalerum, a prominent figure in later Athenian history, who here appears as the royal librarian at Alexandria, convinced the king of the importance of securing for his library a translation of the Jewish Law. The king at the same time, to propitiate the nation from whom he was asking a favor, consented, on the suggestion of Aristeas, to liberate all Jewish slaves in Egypt. Copies follow of the letters which passed between Ptolemy and Eleazar, the high priest at Jerusalem. Ptolemy requests Eleazar to select and dispatch to Alexandria 72 elders, proficient in the Law, 6 from each tribe, to undertake the translation, the importance of the task requiring the services of a large number to secure an accurate version. Eleazar complies with the request and the names of the selected translators are appended to his letter.
There follow: (1) a detailed description of votive offerings sent by Ptolemy for the temple; (2) a sketch of Jerusalem, the temple and its services, and the geography of Palestine, doubtless reflecting in part the impressions of an eyewitness and giving a unique picture of the Jewish capital in the Ptolemaic era; (3) an exposition by Eleazar of portions of the Law.
The translators arrive at Alexandria, bringing a copy of the Law written in letters of gold on rolls of skins, and are honorably received by Ptolemy. A seven days' banquet follows, at which the king tests the proficiency of each in turn with hard questions. Three days later Demetrius conducts them across the mole known as the Heptastadion to the island of Pharos, where, with all necessaries provided for their convenience, they complete their task, as by a miracle, in 72 days; we are expressly told that their work was the result of collaboration and comparison. The completed version was read by Demetrius to the Jewish community, who received it with enthusiasm and begged that a copy might be entrusted to their leaders; a solemn curse was pronounced on any who should venture to add to or subtract from or make any alteration in the translation. The whole version was then read aloud to the king who expressed his admiration and his surprise that Greek writers had remained in ignorance of its contents; he directed that the books should be preserved with scrupulous care.  [Thackeray, J., International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, 1915]
 
From the original manuscripts during that time, there were 49 books in the canon. After the LXX (Septuagint) was then translated from Hebrew to Greek by the Hebrew priests. Later, Jerome was commissioned by the Emperor of Rome, Constantine - to translate it - along with Greek NT scrolls and parchments - into Latin. All of which were already in the original manuscript order.

From the original 49 books of the Bible, Jerome's original translation into the Latin Vulgate, was the present 66 books most all of the Bibles of today contain. He refused to translate the apocrapha at first. But later on condescended to do so.

He changed the original 49 books of the original manuscripts by making two books out of Samuel, Kings and Chronicles and made twelve books out of the original one from the Hebrew scriptures they called the 'Writings.' (The minor prophets).

Then Jerome further scrambled the original manuscript order in the NT because of strong Jewish anti semitism in that time frame - by placing all the epistles connected with the Gentiles before those of the Jews. Hence, all the epistles of Paul were placed before those of James, Peter, John and Jude.

For any of us to believe the apostles did not know when there were 'books' written that were not inspired by the Holy Spirit is to thoroughly discredit their intelligence! [posting of Liltoot]
 
Also at the historical views of a 1 st. century historian, Flavious Josephus, had to say on Bible OT canon: Writing about 90 C.E., Josephus gives us the first glimpse of a nearly finished Jewish canon. It is not a list of the books; however, Josephus makes it clear that it is a numbering of the Jewish scriptures. He writes that the prophets alone had the privilege of writing the ancient history which was revealed to them by divine inspiration. These Jewish books are limited in number to twenty-two (the number of letters in the Hebrew alphabet).15 Josephus organized the books as follows: five books of Moses (i.e., the Law). Prophets subsequently wrote the history of their own times from Moses to the time of Artaxerxes (I, 458 B.C.E.) in thirteen books. The remaining four books included hymns to God (probably the Psalms) and precepts for the conduct of life.16 Josephus divides the canon into "five books of Moses," "the Prophets" in thirteen books and "the remaining four books" including "hymns to God and precepts for the conduct of life." Just how his divisions are made to account for the list of the Hebrew canon could be debated, if we may assume that these were the precise books Josephus had in mind. Josephus appears to have known only "books of Moses" and "Prophets" as names of collections. However, knowing these collection names, he appears to have been confronted with a closed canon of twenty-two books but without a name for a third collection. He, thus, adjusted as best he could, enlarging the Prophets to include all histories (in which he had a particular interest), Chronicles, Ezra (-Nehemiah), Ruth, Esther and the prophet Daniel, with a minimal "remaining four books." Josephus is witness to a numerical limitation on the Jewish canon. Even though the final number of books in the Hebrew canon is twenty-four, Josephus was very close. Josephus also indicates that the text of the canon was of long standing. He says, "For, although such long ages have now passed, no one has ventured either to add, or to remove, or to alter a syllable" [“Jewish Antiguities,” by Flavious Josephus]


Now we ratchet forward over a millennium years into the future to the year 1545 A.D. and look what we encounter; Bible tinkering to add none canonical books to the Bible by the Council of Trent, 1545 & 1563 A.D., by an apostate church with much blood quilt on its hands.  Of course you will maintain that this catalogue was officially accepted at the Synod of Hippo and the Council of Florence; however, if this was truly the case there would have been no reason for the Council of Trent to issue a formal decree.  At this council they even had the audacity to accept deuterocanonical books into their, the church’s, Bible which were never recognized by the Jews in their canon of inspired books can you imagine that in direct contradiction to the word of Almighty God (YHWH) recorded under inspiration by the apostle John,.” 18  For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (Revelation 22:18-19 AV), what blasphemy.   This could very drastically negatively impact the eternal lives of all their members.
 
Boy, let this be a warning to get out of her, a real wake-up call, “ And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” (Revelation 18:4 AV).
 
To all, this is the last I wish to say on Bible canon.  You have been given warning with regard to adding to the Bible canon per Revelations 22:18-19 if you do not refrain from doing it, your blood will be upon your own hands, not mine.
 
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COMBINATION OF THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES.   With the Scripture of the Day first.
 
[1]      SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 418A]
 
There is nothing better for a man, than that he should eat and drink, and that he should make his soul enjoy good in his labour. This also I saw, that it was from the hand of God.  Ecclesiastes 2:24, [authorized King James Bible; AV]
 
Yes, Almighty God (YHWH) intended for everyone to enjoy the fruits of his labor as stated at Ecclesiastes 3:22, [AV] “Wherefore I perceive that there is nothing better, than that a man should rejoice in his own works; for that is his portion: for who shall bring him to see what shall be after him?”  And also stated at Ecclesiastes 5:18, [AV] “Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God giveth him: for it is his portion.”  And reaffirmed at Ecclesiastes 8:15, [AV] “Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun.”   And at Acts 14:17, [AV] “Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.”  
 
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[2]       THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES.  
Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically Medicago lupulina, Black Medick
 
Scientific Name(s): Medicago lupulina
Abundance: plentiful
What: seeds 
How: raw or roasted, ground into flour 
Where: sunny fields, lawns, and neglected areas
When: late winter through summer
Nutritional Value: starch
 
Black medick is often mistaken for clover but these leaves are coarse, rough-edged and grow off prostate runners all branching out from a central taproot. The edible seeds grow one per seedpod and can be eaten raw or roasted then grown into flower once they turn black.
 
Being mostly starch, it should be possible to use Black Medic to produce alcohol. The starch must be broken down into simple sugars for the yeast. The easiest way to do this to combine the crushed seeds with the amylase enzymes found in saliva…in other words, the traditional “spit beer” made by many primitive cultures where a starchy material is chewed and then spit into a large pot to ferment for several days to produce a weak alcoholic drink. Luckily, high concentrations of the necessary enzyme are also found the sprouts of barley and other grains, which can be bought from brewer supply stores. 
 
Black medick forms a symbiotic partnership with rhizobium bacteria which allows it to turn atmospheric nitrogen gas into a form usable by plants. This makes it a beneficial plant to let grow in your garden as it fertilizes nearby plants with this nitrogen.
Labels: Plentiful, Raw, Spring, Summer, Sunny, Weed, Winter, Yards,Yellow Flower
,[source  -  retrived from  http://www.foragingtexas.com/2006/03/black-medic.html on 3/23/2015]
 
In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to  www.jw.org].
 
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COMBINATION OF [1]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2]    Judgment By God A Loving Act - Hate and  a Lust For Violence is Not
 
[1]       SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 420A]
 
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.   James 4:4, [authorized King James Bible; AV]
 
The Devil became entranced with his own beauty and strength and let it go to his head, and turned against Almighty God (YHWH) as testified to at Ezekiel 16:15, [AV] “But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.”  The people of the world, those not listening to and obeying the word of God, are liked by the others who are running is the same debouched course as shown by Jesus (Yeshua) at John 15:19 - 20, [AV] “If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.  20  Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.”  Yes, if we find the people of the wicked world speaking well of us, it is a reminder that we are NOT living our lives in obedience to the Creator per Luke 6:26, [AV] “Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.”  
 
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[2]   Judgment By God A Loving Act - Hate and  a Lust For Violence is Not:
 
INTRODUCTION:
 
Many fail to draw the distinction between hate and a lust for violence by humans, and an act of judgment by the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is.    This article will show the difference.
 
For example, many fail to draw a distinction between wanton killing that Muslims routinely do such as 9/11, and judgments of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, who used the Israelites of old to execute for him.  These are two very different things as the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, has the absolute right to judge and have his pronouncements of judgement carried out and to maintain otherwise is to usurp his position.
 
Many apparently do not recognize what true 'agape' genuine (true) Christian love is so here is a little insight.   True love requires absolute justice and it is unloving to let the wicked continue to do wrong to the righteous and/or against the commandments of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is.  In other words, true love requires true justice - not justice as man sees it but as the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, sees it.
 
Also, It would be most unloving to see another doing things against his/her best interest and NOT lovingly warn him/her.   The loving thing to do is warn others which may require very direct and sometimes painful warnings.
 
NOW A DEFINITION OF TERMS:
 
The concepts of peace, violence, love, hate, and judgment may be difficult for some to grasp, so now a definition of terms with explanations where necessary:
 
[1] PEACE:
 
NOUN: 1. The absence of war or other hostilities. 2. An agreement or a treaty to end hostilities. 3. Freedom from quarrels and disagreement; harmonious relations: roommates living in peace with each other. 4. Public security and order: was arrested for disturbing the peace. 5. Inner contentment; serenity: peace of mind.
 
INTERJECTION: Used as a greeting or farewell, and as a request for silence.
 
IDIOMS: at peace 1. In a state of tranquillity; serene: She is at peace with herself and her friends. 2. Free from strife: Everyone wants to live in a world at peace. keep (or hold) (one's) peace To be silent. keep the peace To maintain or observe law and order: officers who were sworn to keep the peace.
 
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English pes, from Old French pais, pes, from Latin px, pc-. See pax.
[source - The American Heritage(r) Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition]
 
[2] VIOLENCE:
 
NOUN: 1. Physical force exerted for the purpose of violating, damaging, or abusing: crimes of violence. 2. The act or an instance of violent action or behavior. 3. Intensity or severity, as in natural phenomena; untamed force: the violence of a tornado. 4. Abusive or unjust exercise of power. 5. Abuse or injury to meaning, content, or intent: do violence to a text. 6. Vehemence of feeling or expression; fervor. [source - The American Heritage(r) Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition]
 
[3] LOVE:
 
NOUN: 1. A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness. 2. A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of sex and romance. 3a. Sexual passion. b. Sexual intercourse. c. A love affair. 4. An intense emotional attachment, as for a pet or treasured object. 5. A person who is the object of deep or intense affection or attraction; beloved. Often used as a term of endearment. 6. An expression of one's affection: Send him my love. 7a. A strong predilection or enthusiasm: a love of language. b. The object of such an enthusiasm: The outdoors is her greatest love. 8. Love Mythology Eros or Cupid. 9. often Love Christianity Charity. 10. Sports A zero score in tennis.
 
VERB: Inflected forms: loved, lov·ing, loves
 
TRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To have a deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward (a person): We love our parents. I love my friends. 2. To have a feeling of intense desire and attraction toward (a person). 3. To have an intense emotional attachment to: loves his house. 4a. To embrace or caress. b. To have sexual intercourse with. 5. To like or desire enthusiastically: loves swimming. 6. Theology To have charity for. 7. To thrive on; need: The cactus loves hot, dry air.
 
INTRANSITIVE VERB: To experience deep affection or intense desire for another. IDIOMS: for love Out of compassion; with no thought for a reward: She volunteers at the hospital for love. for love or money Under any circumstances. Usually used in negative sentences: I would not do that for love or money. for the love of For the sake of; in consideration for: did it all for the love of praise. in love 1. Deeply or passionately enamored: a young couple in love. 2. Highly or immoderately fond: in love with Japanese painting; in love with the sound of her own voice. no love lost No affection; animosity: There's no love lost between them.
 
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English, from Old English lufu. See leubh- in Appendix I. SYNONYMS: love, affection, devotion, fondness, infatuation These nouns denote feelings of warm personal attachment or strong attraction to another person. Love is the most intense: marrying for love. Affection is a less ardent and more unvarying feeling of tender regard: parental affection. Devotion is earnest, affectionate dedication and implies selflessness: teachers admired for their devotion to children. Fondness is strong liking or affection: a fondness for small animals. Infatuation is foolish or extravagant attraction, often of short duration: lovers blinded to their differences by their mutual infatuation. [source - The American Heritage(r) Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition]
 
As can be seen love can have many meanings in English, but as used in this article the meaning is that of 'agape' love which is as follows:
a.ga'pe [[love]]
Transliteration of the Greek word for the highest form of love, i.e., self-sacrificing love based on principle. Witnesses use it frequently in the complimentary close of a letter, including in informal electronic communications. Whereas many persons might feel awkward in some situations about signing a letter with ``Love'', all Witnesses understand agape to mean the kind of love that one should express toward all fellow human beings. It is a word free from implied overfamiliarity or sexual overtones. [source - Glossary of American English Hacker Theocratese]
 
[4] HATE: [[Is the opposite of 'agape' love.]]
 
VERB: Inflected forms: hat·ed, hat·ing, hates
 
TRANSITIVE VERB: 1a. To feel hostility or animosity toward. b. To detest. 2. To feel dislike or distaste for: hates washing dishes.
 
INTRANSITIVE VERB: To feel hatred.
 
NOUN: 1. Intense animosity or dislike; hatred. 2. An object of detestation or hatred: My pet hate is tardiness.
 
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English haten, from Old English hatian. N., Middle English, from Old English hete. . [source - The American Heritage(r) Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition]
 
[5] JUDGMENT:
 
NOUN: 1. The act or process of judging; the formation of an opinion after consideration or deliberation. 2a. The mental ability to perceive and distinguish relationships; discernment: Fatigue may affect a pilot's judgment of distances. b. The capacity to form an opinion by distinguishing and evaluating: His judgment of fine music is impeccable. c. The capacity to assess situations or circumstances and draw sound conclusions; good sense: She showed good judgment in saving her money. See synonyms at reason. 3. An opinion or estimate formed after consideration or deliberation, especially a formal or authoritative decision: awaited the judgment of the umpire. 4. Law a. A determination of a court of law; a judicial decision. b. A court act creating or affirming an obligation, such as a debt. c. A writ in witness of such an act. 5. An assertion of something believed. 6. A misfortune believed to be sent by God as punishment for sin. 7. Judgment The Last Judgment.
 
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English jugement, from Old French, from jugier, to judge, from Latin idicre.
 
JUDGMENT BY THE TRUE GOD (YHWH) OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND ISHMAEL, CREATOR OF ALL THERE IS:
 
At different times in the past The true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael called peoples and nations to account for their actions and executed his judgments by bringing destruction. Such executional judgments were not arbitrary demonstrations of brute force or overwhelming power. In some instances the Hebrew word translated "judgment" (mish·pat') is also rendered "justice" per Ezra 7:10, "For Ezra had prepared his heart to seek the law of the LORD, and to do it, and to teach in Israel statutes and judgments. " (Authorized King James Bible; AV) and "what is right per Genesis 18:25, "That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?" (AV).   The Bible emphasizes that The true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael "is a lover of righteousness and justice," so his executional judgments involve both of those qualities, per Psalms 33:5, "He loveth righteousness and judgment: the earth is full of the goodness of the LORD."  (AV).
 
Often, the executional judgments came as a result of the wicked conduct of people in their daily lives. Sodom and Gomorrah are an example of this. The true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael inspected the cities and determined that the sin of the inhabitants was very heavy; he decided to bring the cities to ruin as recorded at Genesis 18:20-21, "And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
21  I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know." (AV) , which shows they were judged by the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, and found to be WICKED.    This is also emphasized at Genesis 19:14, "And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law." (AV).
 
Later the Apostle Jude wrote that those cities underwent 'judicial punishment' at Jude 7, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (AV) . 
 
Also, The true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael conducted a legal case against ancient Babylon, which was a longtime enemy of God and his people.   Because of their having been unnecessarily cruel to the Jews and crediting Marduk [[Their false god.]] with the victory over the people of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is,  Babylon was in line for an executional judgment per Jeremiah 51:36, "Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will plead thy cause, and take vengeance for thee; and I will dry up her sea, and make her springs dry." (AV); and Isaiah 14:3-6, "And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,
4 ¶  That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
5  The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
6  He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth." (AV).    That judgment came to Babylon in 539 B.C.E. when it was overthrown by the Medes and Persians whom the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, used as his instrument for executing his judgment on Babylon
 
Similarly, Jeremiah prophesied that the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is,  would bring judgment against wicked Edom per Jeremiah 49:17-22, "Also Edom shall be a desolation: every one that goeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss at all the plagues thereof.
18  As in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD, no man shall abide there, neither shall a son of man dwell in it.
19  Behold, he shall come up like a lion from the swelling of Jordan against the habitation of the strong: but I will suddenly make him run away from her: and who is a chosen man, that I may appoint over her? for who is like me? and who will appoint me the time? and who is that shepherd that will stand before me?
20  Therefore hear the counsel of the LORD, that he hath taken against Edom; and his purposes, that he hath purposed against the inhabitants of Teman: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitations desolate with them.
21  The earth is moved at the noise of their fall, at the cry the noise thereof was heard in the Red sea.
22  Behold, he shall come up and fly as the eagle, and spread his wings over Bozrah: and at that day shall the heart of the mighty men of Edom be as the heart of a woman in her pangs." (AV).   Hence, Edom,  the nation that had shown hatred for the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael experienced destructive judgment in, Obadiah  15-16, "For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been." (AV)
 
When Judah and Jerusalem became unfaithful and merited God's disapproval, he promised to, Ezekiel 5:8,  "Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations." (AV).    In 607 B.C.E. the day of The true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael's fury" came with an execution of his destructive judgment, per Ezekiel 7:19, "They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity." (AV).
 
CONCLUSION:
 
So we can see the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, passes judgment in righteousness and the instrument he uses to carry out his judgment is acting on his behalf.   Ancient Israel was frequently called on to act as the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, executioner of judgment, and as same, had to do what was necessary to carry out the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, judgment.
 
Therefore, the proposition put forth in the introduction, that many fail to draw a distinction between wanton killing that Muslims routinely do such as 9/11, and judgments of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, who used the Israelites of old to execute for him.  These are two very different things as the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, has the absolute right to judge and have his pronouncements of judgement carried out and to maintain otherwise is to usurp his position.    Clearly shows these individuals are NOT in line with the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is,
But need to bring their reasoning in line with that of the the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is.
 
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