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4/21/2014 12:06 pm  #11


Re: Dissolve Islam and Give The World Some Needed Peace

ISOLATIONIST AND HATER ISLAMIC IMMIGRANTS ARE DANGEROUS – FOR PROOF, READ THE FOLLOWING:
 
Immigrants are NOT per-say the problem, I myself am an immigrant, but ISOLATIONIST AND HATER immigrants such as ####### are the problem.  ####### and his fellow members are the problem as they are ISOLATIONIST AND HATERS, he has just written a long nonsense post trying to justify special advantages to remain ISOLATIONIST at public expense which is pure anti-social nonsense.  He and his followers need to integrate into regular society like myself and the sheiks have.  Every religious group could claim they want state funded schools for their group and if implemented we would have literally hundreds of schools to replace a few integrated public schools – this is just anti social nonsense that would result in excessive cost to the state both monetarily and socially and prevent a cohesive society.   As I previously told him, “####### you are way out in left field, no one cares whether you drink or do not eat pork – I do not either – but you have NOT integrated with the people around you.   Whereas, I have integrated – that in no way implies that you must adopt their bad ways - and have experienced no prejudice.   It is high time you wake up to reality.  As for your comments on history, they are simply a so what – wake up.   I live with the people of the land, instead of isolated communities of my people, and that is what your people should do.   Wake up, get real.   Your big problem is you can not accept REALITY, and shrug off unpleasant facts when presented.   The British Sheiks you should use as an example and start imitating them instead of being isolationist.”  A good example of this problem is their Prima-Donna superior attitude of wanting state supported schools just for Muslims.  You do NOT SEE other religions requesting same.  In fact, this is just what the government should not provide as it only makes them more ISOLATIONIST AND HATEFUL, and this is not what is needed; to wit, integration is what is needed just as the British Sheiks have done. in fact, IF LEFT TO RUN THEIR OWN SCHOOLS THEY WOULD POSITIVELLY TURN HATEFUL AND PROMOTE VIOLENCE AND UNJUST PUNISHMENT.   The following article with respect a private Islamic school is proof of that.   This article from the ‘daily mail.’ Private school chief linked to Islam Trojan Horse plot says: Stone all adulterers to death 


  • Fees at the school where boys and girls are segregated are £1,800
  • School chairman claims fornication should be punished with 100 lashes 
  • Ibrahim Hewitt runs the controversial Leicester school with his wife Adeba
  •  

By TOM WORDEN and ABUL TAHER
PUBLISHED: 18:30 EST, 19 April 2014 | UPDATED: 18:46 EST, 19 April 2014



A Muslim hardliner who says adulterers should be stoned to death and that gay men and fornicators should be lashed 100 times has set up an Islamic school that has received almost £1million of taxpayers’ money.
Ibrahim Hewitt, one of Britain’s most prominent Islamic firebrands – who also heads a charity branded a ‘terrorist’ organisation by the US – is the founder and chairman of trustees of the Al-Aqsa school in Leicester, which teaches 250 boys and girls aged between three and 11.
He has vilified homosexuals as paedophiles and said a man can take on a second wife if his first fails to satisfy him sexually. Mr Hewitt has published his views in a book on Islam, which he claims has sold more than 50,000 copies in Britain.
 
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A teacher at the Al Aqsa primary school in Leicester
The preacher is the founder of another controversial organisation called the Association of Muslim Schools (AMS), whose leader has been accused of orchestrating a plot in Birmingham called ‘Operation Trojan Horse’ in which Islamic extremists have allegedly taken over 25 state schools in the city.
Last night it was reported that six Birmingham, schools implicated in the plot will be placed in ‘special measures’ by inspectors, meaning their leadership team could be removed. Ofsted is also said to be taking action at a further nine schools where the attempted takeover is less advanced.
That news came as campaigners called for an investigation by the Department for Education (DfE) to be expanded to Mr Hewitt and his Leicester school.
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Douglas Murray, of anti-extremist think-tank the Henry Jackson Society, said: ‘I would like to see the investigation widened to other cities as well as Birmingham, and maybe look at private schools in case the welfare of children is at risk.
‘There should be an investigation into Al-Aqsa to see what children are being taught.’
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Ibrahim Hewitt, chairman of Al-Aqsa school said that all adulterers should be stoned to death and fornication should be punished with 100 lashes
Mr Hewitt, 57, established the private school in 1998. He runs it with his wife Adeba, 53. The school practises segregated seating for boys and girls from aged seven and does not allow music or dance lessons as they are deemed un-Islamic. Female teachers teach with their faces  covered with a veil, according to images on the school’s website.
The school, which charges fees of up to £1,800 per year, has received £747,360 from the Local Education Authority in Leicester as an early years grant for teaching three to five-year-olds since 2007.
The preacher is the author of a book called What Does Islam Say?, which spells out his vision of ‘true Islam’. In it he advocates the killing of adulterers by stoning. The book says: ‘Any act that destabilises marriage will also destabilise society. Hence the Islamic punishments for such acts are severe… Married men and women found guilty of adultery are to be stoned to death.’
The book also advocates 100 lashes for fornication and sodomy with both men and women, and condemns homosexuality as a ‘grave sin’.
Mr Hewitt says in the book: ‘Islam, like most other major faiths of the world, categorically forbids homosexual practices (sexual relations between two men or between two women), regarding them as a great sin. In a society under Islamic law, such would be severely punished.’
He then compares homosexuals to paedophiles or those who commit incest. The book says: ‘If people have such desires [homosexuality], they should keep them to themselves, and control their desires to avoid forbidden practices.
‘The advice would be the same as, say, to someone who had sexual desires for minors or for close  family: that having the desires does not legitimise realising them.’
The book also argues that men and women are not equal, and men have a right to assume leadership over women. ‘Islam recognises the leadership of men over women, but it does not recognise the domination of one over the other.’
He adds: ‘If a woman is unable to satisfy the sexual or other needs of her husband he may consider taking another wife, rather than the common Western practice of secretly taking a mistress.’
Mr Hewitt has in the past said that ‘political Zionism is a threat to world peace’ and has objected to the setting up of Holocaust Memorial Day.
He is also the chairman of a  charity called Interpal, which the US Treasury has designated a  ‘global terrorist entity’ due to accusations it has raised money for the Palestinian terror group Hamas. However, a report by the UK Charity Commission last year found no evidence that it had done so.
When The Mail on Sunday contacted Mr Hewitt, he said he still ‘endorses’ what he wrote in the book. ‘Islamic law states that homosexuals should be lashed and adulterers should be stoned. I believe that is correct if it is an Islamic state. I am a Muslim and if I lived in an Islamic state then I would live by what I wrote in my book. But I am in this country and follow its law,’ he said.
Education Secretary Michael Gove has appointed the Met’s former counter-terrorism chief, Peter Clarke, to head an investigation into the alleged Trojan Horse plot.Council probes 'music is evil' school postersBy BEN ELLERY
A state-funded Islamic school was at the centre of controversy last night over claims that a poster banning listening to music appeared on its official noticeboard.
The poster, alleged to have been put up  at the Madani Schools Federation in Leicester, warned that pupils ‘must stay away from evil acts such as music and encourage others to do the same too’.
A photo of the poster, which is claimed to have been taken by a concerned supply teacher inside the school, has appeared on Facebook.
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A Facebook post branding music as 'sinful' is being investigated by council chiefs in Leicester
The poster’s text quoted an apparent saying of the Prophet Mohammed, which said: ‘Music sows hypocrisy in the heart like water causes seeds to grow in soil.’ It also warned: ‘Music is a tool of Shaytan [Satan]’, adding: ‘The messages of today’s music follow a general theme of love, drugs and freedom.’
Leicester assistant mayor Vi Dempster said: ‘Council officers will be visiting the school after Easter to discuss the issue with the headteacher and governors.’ 
Madani, a faith academy once accused  of flouting the Equalities Act by insisting boys and girls were segregated and taught by a member of the same sex, has received £18 million of state funding. Its chairman of governors, Hussein Suleman, said: ‘This poster has not existed in our premises.  I don’t know who dreamt this hoax up.’
Inayat Bunglawala of Muslims4UK, a group set up to promote Muslim engagement with British society, said music prohibitions in the Islamic faith related to some disputed sayings attributed to Prophet Mohammed after his death, adding: ‘It would be bizarre if a state-funded school would not give music its due importance in the curriculum.’
The supply teacher said to have taken  the photo declined to comment.
[source - retrieved from  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2608662/Private-school-chief-linked-Islam-Trojan-Horse-plot-says-Stone-adulterers-death.html   on  4/21  /2014]
 
 

 

4/22/2014 7:44 am  #12


Re: Dissolve Islam and Give The World Some Needed Peace

REALITY - Guilt Comes On Organizations That Fail To Clean House Of The Wicked Ones, AND Islam Is Such A Group And They Have The Nerve To Call Themselves A Peaceful Religion:
 
INTRODUCTION:
 
First, The world we live in is ruled by the wicked one as testified to by 1 John 5:19, “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.” (Authorized King James Bible; AV).  If we pick up a newspaper in any country, we find reports of cruelty and violence on an unprecedented scale.  Man’s inhumanity to man is troubling for a righteous person to contemplate as testified to at Ecclesiastes 8:9, “All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.” (AV).
 
Second, Most individuals and/or groups seek to avoid responsibility for their own actions rather than take corrective actions.   This also applies to so called religious groups that seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for the wrong actions of members, but fail, willingly, to take action against these wrong doers by purging themselves of these wicked ones.
 
THE REALITY:
 
If a religion fails to clean house of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suscide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who is a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Of course, Islam, is NOT the only religion that fails to take effective action against evil and wicked individuals and leaders of groups among them, another is the Catholic and Angalican churches that for many years just moved pedophiles to a new congregation when they were uncovered as the world's news media has so well identified. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.
 
Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.
 
Now let’s look at one such religion that tries to escape their responsibility for cleaning house so to speak.
 
ISLAM FAILS TO CLEAN HOUSE:
 
Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam.  Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones.  To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions upon themselves.  Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers.  Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion.  And as previously stated, ‘Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.’
 
CONCLUSION:
 
Many are just fooling themself, it is not what either the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is the interpretation of what is written either in the Bible or the bible knockoff the Qur'an that matters and governs actions.   It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff really say.   People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders.   Take the genocide committed by the Roman Catholic Church at the direction of their supreme religious leader, the pope (Pope Innocent III (1160 or 1161 – 16 July 1216)), what mattered was not that the Bible clearly said at Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but what their religious leaders told them.   Therefore, it is the religion which is at fault, irregardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an may say.   Neither in so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the interpretation of their religious leaders.   Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it.   Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian.
 
Likewise the failure to clean house of evil ones puts their wrongs directly upon the organization failing to throw out evil/wicked ones when they are found out.
 
See the proof of what is happening in Nigeria and Islam has failed to throw or ex-communicate a single Muslim doing these things.
Parents: 234 girls kidnapped from Nigeria school    Islamists Still Holding 85 Schoolgirls After Raid: State
CHIBOK, Nigeria (AP) — Some 234 girls are missing from the northeast Nigerian school attacked last week by Islamic extremists, significantly more than the 85 reported by education officials, parents told the state governor Monday.
The higher figure came out a week after the kidnappings when the Borno state governor insisted a military escort take him to the town. Parents told the governor that officials would not listen to them when they drew up their list of names of missing children and the total reached 234.
The discrepancy in the figures could not immediately be resolved.
Security officials had warned Gov. Kashim Shettima that it was too dangerous for him to drive to Chibok, 130 kilometers (80 miles) from Maiduguri, the Borno state capital and birthplace of the Boko Haram terrorist network blamed for the abductions.
Borno state education commission Musa Inuwo Kubo and the principal of the Chibok Government Girls Secondary School had initially said that 129 science students were at the school to write a physics exam when the abductors struck, after midnight on April 14. Twenty-eight pupils escaped from their captors between Tuesday and Friday. Then another 16 were found to be day scholars who had returned to their homes in Chibok before the attack. That left 85 missing students, according to school officials.
This latest confusion comes after the military had reported last week that all but eight of those abducted had been rescued — but then retracted the claim the following day.
 
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Security sources have said they are in "hot pursuit" of the abductors, but so far they have not rescued any of the girls and young women, aged between 16 and 18.
Parents and other town residents have joined the search for the students in the Sambisa Forest which borders Chibok town and is a known hideout for the militants.
The kidnappings are believed to have been carried out by Nigeria's Islamic extremist rebels, known as Boko Haram. Boko Haram — the nickname means "Western education is sinful" — is violently campaigning to establish an Islamic Shariah state in Nigeria, whose 170 million people are about half Muslim and half Christian. Boko Haram has been abducting some girls and young women in attacks on schools, villages and towns but last week's mass kidnapping is unprecedented. The extremists use the young women as porters, cooks and sex slaves, according to Nigerian officials.
Boko Haram was on a rampage last week, staging four attacks in three days that began with a massive explosion during rush hour at a busy bus station Monday morning in Abuja, the capital in the center of the country, which killed at least 75 people and wounded 141.
Nigeria's military and government had claimed to have the militants on the run and contained in a remote northeast corner on the border with Cameroon.
But extremist attacks have increased in frequency and become ever deadlier this year with more than 1,500 people killed so far, compared to an estimated 3,600 between 2010 and 2013.  [source - retrieved from   http://news.yahoo.com/parents-234-girls-kidnapped-nigeria-school-132856450.html  on  4/21/2014]
This proves beyond doubt that Islam is a wicked religion.

 
 

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4/30/2014 8:35 am  #13


Re: Dissolve Islam and Give The World Some Needed Peace

ACTUAL REPLY TO A MEMBER OF ISLAM TRYING TO JUSTIFY WICKEDNESS:
 
IFTIKHAR SENT ME THE FOLLOWING B.S., BUT REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE REALITY; TO WIT, ISLAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT 95% OF RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE IN THE WORLD TODAY.

INTRODUCTION:

REALITY #1, <<<"Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-Muslims or each other? " [source - The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 AD]>>>

REALITY #2, As I said to him in an earlier reply to his B.S., 

LET’S face it, members of Islam bring the problems on themselves by blowing up buses, subways, killing British solders, and many other nasty things against others in the United Kingdom so they should expect a backlash. Also, in Muslim majority countries they do many things against non-Muslims. Here is the latest wrong:

“Brunei to outlaw baptisms and other sacraments as nation adopts Sharia law LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - Sharia law will soon be introduced in Brunei, and its introduction will bring sweeping changes for many, including an estimated 30,000 Filipinos and people of other religions. Those changes could result in human rights violations and the persecution of minority groups, as well as all women. Sharia law is regarded as strict and is based on fundamentalist interpretation of the Koranic scriptures. The law severely restricts the activities of women, and doles out severe punishments to those who break the laws. It is intolerant of other religious persuasions, which can lead to forced conversations or even harsh penalization of those who subscribe to other religions including Christianity. Merely attempting to promote the faith could carry a punishment of five years in prison and a $20,000 fine. With so many Catholics in the country, including 30,000 Filipinos, someone will run afoul of the law. Baptisms will also be banned. Schools will only be allowed to teach Islam. No other religion will be discussed and exposing children to other religions can result in harsh penalties. Sharia law also allows for stoning of those accused of adultery, as well as forced amputations for thieves and other offenders. The law will be a challenge because the Sultan of Brunei as well as the royal family and others of the upper class, who have gained incredible wealth from oil deals with the West, enjoy lavish lifestyles that includes alcohol-fueled parties and gambling. These will have to be curtailed and kept well-behind closed doors. Christians will likely be driven underground. The Sultan of Brunei, Hassanal Bolkiah has asked the international community to respect his country's decision to adopt Sharia law, saying the dictates are a special guidance from Allah. Anyone who criticizes the law could be arrested. “

And in North America, Muslims kill thousands of people, for details, go to, 6 th. Post down at http://w11.zetaboards.com/ReligiousTruths/topic/8394883/3/#new

HERE IS HIS LATEST B.S.

Iftikhar Ahmad commented on Cameron suppresses report showing immigration good for UK.: "This is just a smear campaign by the government to try and get the natives to blame the immigrants for all the woes the country faces a "divide and conquer" strategy. How Brits spread around the globe like locusts. Just look at how English is spoken everywhere, its because we were so determined to invade everyone else's countries... now during recession and immigration due to EU... the racists can't handle it. I think you'll find immigration in Britain goes back centuries... wave after wave of conquest of this country. Historically, the true Brits are probably the Celts, welsh etc. 

To all who say that Britain invaded other Countries, yes but it was the way of the World back then, a different era. The Roman Empire, Ottoman empire etc, etc. The invaded people, by different means, fought back and eventually to overthrow and remove the invaders and rightly so. We are talking about the here and now. In the last few years there has been such a large influx of people arriving and so many more on the way that we just can’t cope, more schools needed NHS on the brink of collapse, need more and more houses etc. Also as human beings by nature we are tribal that is why there are so many disputes in the World. So when we see so many other cultures starting to outnumber us in our own home of course we are not going to like it. Every people are proud of their culture and nationality and there is no reason to be ashamed of that and want to do something about it. 

The USA, Britain, Romans and the Ottomans have invaded every country in the world and destroyed and raped their cultures. These nations created slavery destroyed cultures and then say we 'civilised them' That's ridiculous. I do agree the world is a better place than it was but that's only because of the scientific revolution. Not because or imperialism. The world suffers to this day because of imperialism. Africa and India still suffer and Bangladesh and the middle east due to imperialism. The Caribbean south America etc. Imperialism has destroyed this planet! Only a few countries have benefited but with great blood on their hands.

Don't you think all these people are also infuriated that Brits over the last 400 yrs or so , have gone around the world & destroyed most places , free loaded & stole. Now when its been done back you don't like it. Why the hell are people trying to create a Moral panic. Its a good thing that we as a society are moving forward, and becoming multi cultural like the USA and Germany. Lets not forget that most immigrants are student. To include to that, their is more Brits in India than Foreigners in Britain. What I cant understand is that for centuries we have invaded other countries and tried to implement our traditions into other societies yet we are incredibly threatened by non-whites. There is nothing to be scared about. They like us are human, and history proves that they have been in a'lot less wars than we have.
IA
London School of Islamics Trust"
 
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4/30/2014 9:07 am  #14


Re: Dissolve Islam and Give The World Some Needed Peace

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A MEMBER TRYING TO MISLEAD ON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SO MUCH VIOLENCE IN THE WORLD AND HOW THEY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST OTHERS
 
IFTIKHAR SENT ME THE FOLLOWING B.S., BUT REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE REALITY; TO WIT, ISLAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT 95% OF RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE IN THE WORLD TODAY.

INTRODUCTION:

REALITY #1, <<<"Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-Muslims or each other? " [source - The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 AD]>>>

REALITY #2, As I said to him in an earlier reply to his B.S., 

LET’S face it, members of Islam bring the problems on themselves by blowing up buses, subways, killing British solders, and many other nasty things against others in the United Kingdom so they should expect a backlash. Also, in Muslim majority countries they do many things against non-Muslims. Here is the latest wrong:

“Brunei to outlaw baptisms and other sacraments as nation adopts Sharia law LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - Sharia law will soon be introduced in Brunei, and its introduction will bring sweeping changes for many, including an estimated 30,000 Filipinos and people of other religions. Those changes could result in human rights violations and the persecution of minority groups, as well as all women. Sharia law is regarded as strict and is based on fundamentalist interpretation of the Koranic scriptures. The law severely restricts the activities of women, and doles out severe punishments to those who break the laws. It is intolerant of other religious persuasions, which can lead to forced conversations or even harsh penalization of those who subscribe to other religions including Christianity. Merely attempting to promote the faith could carry a punishment of five years in prison and a $20,000 fine. With so many Catholics in the country, including 30,000 Filipinos, someone will run afoul of the law. Baptisms will also be banned. Schools will only be allowed to teach Islam. No other religion will be discussed and exposing children to other religions can result in harsh penalties. Sharia law also allows for stoning of those accused of adultery, as well as forced amputations for thieves and other offenders. The law will be a challenge because the Sultan of Brunei as well as the royal family and others of the upper class, who have gained incredible wealth from oil deals with the West, enjoy lavish lifestyles that includes alcohol-fueled parties and gambling. These will have to be curtailed and kept well-behind closed doors. Christians will likely be driven underground. The Sultan of Brunei, Hassanal Bolkiah has asked the international community to respect his country's decision to adopt Sharia law, saying the dictates are a special guidance from Allah. Anyone who criticizes the law could be arrested. “

And in North America, Muslims kill thousands of people, for details, go to, 6 th. Post down at http://w11.zetaboards.com/ReligiousTruths/topic/8394883/3/#new

HERE IS HIS LATEST B.S.

Iftikhar Ahmad commented on Cameron suppresses report showing immigration good for UK.: "This is just a smear campaign by the government to try and get the natives to blame the immigrants for all the woes the country faces a "divide and conquer" strategy. How Brits spread around the globe like locusts. Just look at how English is spoken everywhere, its because we were so determined to invade everyone else's countries... now during recession and immigration due to EU... the racists can't handle it. I think you'll find immigration in Britain goes back centuries... wave after wave of conquest of this country. Historically, the true Brits are probably the Celts, welsh etc. 

To all who say that Britain invaded other Countries, yes but it was the way of the World back then, a different era. The Roman Empire, Ottoman empire etc, etc. The invaded people, by different means, fought back and eventually to overthrow and remove the invaders and rightly so. We are talking about the here and now. In the last few years there has been such a large influx of people arriving and so many more on the way that we just can’t cope, more schools needed NHS on the brink of collapse, need more and more houses etc. Also as human beings by nature we are tribal that is why there are so many disputes in the World. So when we see so many other cultures starting to outnumber us in our own home of course we are not going to like it. Every people are proud of their culture and nationality and there is no reason to be ashamed of that and want to do something about it. 

The USA, Britain, Romans and the Ottomans have invaded every country in the world and destroyed and raped their cultures. These nations created slavery destroyed cultures and then say we 'civilised them' That's ridiculous. I do agree the world is a better place than it was but that's only because of the scientific revolution. Not because or imperialism. The world suffers to this day because of imperialism. Africa and India still suffer and Bangladesh and the middle east due to imperialism. The Caribbean south America etc. Imperialism has destroyed this planet! Only a few countries have benefited but with great blood on their hands.

Don't you think all these people are also infuriated that Brits over the last 400 yrs or so , have gone around the world & destroyed most places , free loaded & stole. Now when its been done back you don't like it. Why the hell are people trying to create a Moral panic. Its a good thing that we as a society are moving forward, and becoming multi cultural like the USA and Germany. Lets not forget that most immigrants are student. To include to that, their is more Brits in India than Foreigners in Britain. What I cant understand is that for centuries we have invaded other countries and tried to implement our traditions into other societies yet we are incredibly threatened by non-whites. There is nothing to be scared about. They like us are human, and history proves that they have been in a'lot less wars than we have.
IA
London School of Islamics Trust"
 
Now to know the truth, about evil Islam, the Bible, Christ, and His Father, go to:
 
1) http://religioustruths.forumsland.com/
 
2) http://www.network54.com/Forum/403209/
 
3) http://religioustruths.lefora.com/
 
4) http://religioustruths.boardhost.com/
 
5) http://religious-truths.forums.com/
 
6) http://religioustruthsbyiris.createmybb3.com/
 
7) http://religioustruths.forumotion.com/
 
To enjoy an online Bible study called “Follow the Christ” go to,  http://religious-truths.forums.com/default/digital-book-on-18-part-follow-christ-bible-study-3?replies=6#post-1421
 
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
 
Francis David said it long ago, "Neither the sword of popes...nor the image of death will halt the march of truth. "Francis David, 1579, written on the wall of his prison cell." Read the book, "What Does The Bible Really Teach" and the Bible today, and go to www.jw.org!
 

 
 

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5/01/2014 2:34 pm  #15


Re: Dissolve Islam and Give The World Some Needed Peace

ISLAM SPREADS MORE MISGUIDANCE THAN ANY OTHER GROUP AND HERE IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF THIS B.S., BUT FIRST A FACTUAL ACCOUNT BY MYSELF:
 
MY ACCOUNT: (A statement of reality)
 
Immigrants are NOT per-say the problem, I myself am an immigrant, but ISOLATIONIST immigrants such as A Muslim isolationist are the problem.  A Muslim isolationist and his fellow members are the problem as they are ISOLATIONIST, he has just written a long nonsense post trying to justify special advantages to remain ISOLATIONIST at public expense which is pure anti-social nonsense.  He and his followers need to integrate into regular society like myself and the Sheiks have.  Every religious group could claim they want state funded schools for their group and if implemented we would have literally hundreds of schools to replace a few integrated public schools – this is just anti social nonsense that would result in excessive cost to the state both monetarily and socially and prevent a cohesive society.   As I previously told him, “A Muslim isolationist you are way out in left field, no one cares whether you drink or do not eat pork – I do not either – but you have NOT integrated with the people around you.   Whereas, I have integrated – that in no way implies that you must adopt their bad ways as I have not - and have experienced no prejudice.   It is high time you wake up to reality.  As for your comments on history, they are simply a so what – wake up.   I live with the people of the land, instead of isolated communities of my people, and that is what your people should do.   Wake up, get real.   Your big problem is you can not accept REALITY, and shrug off unpleasant facts when presented.   The British Sheiks you should use as an example and start imitating them instead of being isolationist.”  A good example of this problem is your Prima-Donna superior attitude of wanting state supported schools just for Muslims.  You do NOT SEE other religions requesting same.  In fact, this is just what the government should not provide as it only makes them more ISOLATIONIST, and this is not what is needed; to wit, integration is what is needed just as the British Sheiks have done.
 
Now as for language in school and learning English, I purposely wanted to learn good English (English NOT being my native language), and to do so, I always tried to go to schools where most of the students were native English speaking.   Why?   Simple, I wanted to immerse my self in English so I could learn it rapidly and not fall back on my native language as a ‘crutch,’ and all none native English speaking students would best off doing the same.   I later attended an all English speaking college and I experienced no problem with the language, but was on par and/or above the native English speaking students in the college.
 
Yes, non-English speaking students should keep up with their own language, but strictly at home!   And that is exactly what I did.   Stop, plugging for nonsense that would only place non-native English students at a disadvantage and insure their living in foreign ghettos. 
 
NOW THIS MEMBER OF ISLAM’S B.S.
This member of Islam said,  "Muslim children not only need halal meat or Eid Holidays but they need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their development period also. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. 

The schools must satisfy the spiritual, moral, social, and cultural needs of Muslim pupils. State schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers are not in a position to satisfy their needs. A good school is not just a knowledge factory or a conveyor belt for churning out exam passes - it is a community, a family. A community is held together by common values and principles. [[An that is just why the ISOLATIONIST measures he is plugging for are so bad.]]

Western media and politicians have been trying their best to propagate against Muslim schools. Muslim schools are even called Osama bin Laden Academies by a Teaching Union [[Fact on Muslim school in the United Kingdom is even called Osama bin Laden Academy.]]   Only less than 5% of Muslim children attend Muslim schools while more than 95% are in state schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers. The demand for state funded Muslim schools is in accordance with the law of the land. Muslim community is not asking for any favour [[Pure B.S.]]. Muslim community pays all sorts of taxes and is less burden on social services [[Almost all the expensive security measures at U.K. airports, and elsewhere were made necessary by Muslim wrongdoings and evil acts]]. Church leaders say it is no longer "appropriate" for them to run Sacred Heart RC Primary School which has just six Christian pupils. The school in Blackburn, Lancs, could be handed to the nearby Masjid-e-Tauheedul mosque.
 
The demand [[Immigrants should seek to fit in with society of the host country instead of demanding special favors.]] for Muslim schools comes from parents who want their children a safe environment with an Islamic ethos. Parents see Muslim schools where children can develop their Islamic Identity where they won't feel stigmatised for being Muslims and they can feel confident about their faith. Muslim schools are working to try to create a bridge between communities. There is a belief among ethnic minority parents that the British schooling does not adequately address their cultural needs. Failing to meet this need could result in feeling resentment among a group who already feel excluded. Setting up Muslim school is a defensive response. State schools with monolingual teachers are not capable to teach English to bilingual Muslim children [[Wrong, I learned perfect English in such an immersion environment]]. Bilingual teachers are needed to teach English to such children along with their mother tongue [[Mother tongue should be taught at home, not in a public school.]]. According to a number of studies, a child will not learn a second language if his first language is ignored. 
 
It is absurd to believe that Muslim schools, Imams and Masajid teach Muslim children anti-Semitic, homophobic and anti-western views [[Look at reality, subway and bus bombings, solders being murdered by Muslims on English streets, etc., example of great training.]]. It is dangerously deceptive and misleading to address text books and discuss them out of their historical, cultural and linguistic context. It is not wrong to teach children that Jews are committing the same cruelty in Palestine what German did to them before or during Second World War [[It is however wrong to tell lies like you just did.  I know an Arab lawyer who is an Israel citizen, and prefers that to being a Palestrina citizen.]]. It is not wrong to teach children that anti-social behaviour, drinking, drugs, homosexuality, sex before marriage, teenage pregnancies and abortions are western values and Islam is against all such sins [[Stop telling untruths, Islam was founded by a rabid sex pervert, one Kuwaiti female political active person said, “"For example, in the Chechnyan war, surely there are female Russian captives. So go and buy those and sell them here in Kuwait; better that than have our men engage in forbidden sexual relations. I don't see any problem in this, no problem at all."
Mutairi suggests the enslaved girls be at least 15 years-old.
She further justified the institution of sex-slavery by evoking 8th century caliph, Harun Rashid—a name some may recall from Arabian Nights bedtime stories; a name some may be surprised to discover politically active Muslims modeling their lives after:
"And the greatest example we have is Harun al-Rashid: when he died, he had 2,000 sex slaves—so it's okay, nothing wrong with it."
Mutairi's rationale is ultimately guided by a sense of efficiency, a desire for the good of society: legalizing sex-slaves helps prevent Muslim men from transgressing Allah's laws (as we have seen, extramarital relations with fellow Muslim women is strictly forbidden, but not with infidel sex-slaves, since they are scarcely considered human). Thus, the institution of sex-slavery provides a convenient, Sharia-compliant way of satiating the libidinous urges of Muslim men… Mutairi concluded by piously supplicating Allah: "Oh I truly wish this for Kuwait, Allah willing—Oh Lord, Lord, you are bountiful…"
While she waits, Mutairi can take solace in the fact that, if sex-slavery is not institutionalized in Kuwait, it thrives underground throughout the Muslim world, where non-Muslim girls—mostly Christians—are routinely abducted, enslaved, and forced into lives of unspeakable degradation.
After all, just because a practice is not formally institutionalized does not mean that those who deem it their divine right are not practicing it.  [source - retrieved from   http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2732655/posts  on  4/28/2014]]].
. This does not mean that Muslim schools teach children to hate westerners, Jews and homosexuals [[An outright lie as clearly shown on 9/11/2001 in the USA and again during the 2013 Boston marathon – which Muslims turned into a massacre.  For more details, go to the World news and to TODAY IS ANNIVERSARY OF MUSLIM ATTACK ON USA at  http://religioustruthsbyiris.freeforums.org/today-is-anniversary-of-muslim-attack-on-usa-t206.html , we do NOT need more of teaching that leads individuals to do such things.]]

You better teach your children in your own schools and let migrant communities teach their children according to their needs and demands. British Establishment and society should concentrate on the evils of their own society and stop trying to change the way of life of Muslims. Muslim community does not want to integrate with the British society, indulging in incivility, anti-social behaviour, drug and knife culture, binge drinking, teenage pregnancies and abortion. Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"? In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London. This clearly shows that the British media does not believe in choice and diversity in the field of education and has no respect for those who are different. Muslim schools, in spite of meager resources, have excelled to a further extent this year, with couple of schools achieving 100% A-C grades for five or more GCSEs. They beat well resourced state and independent schools in Birmingham and Hackney. Muslim schools are doing better because a majority of the teachers are Muslim. The pupils are not exposed to the pressures of racism, multiculturalism and bullying. 

There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their 
needs and demands.
IA
London School of Islamics Trust
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk"
MY OBSERVATION:
 
The Legacy of Islamic Imperialism
 
Muhammad died of a fever in 632 at the age of 63, with his violent religion spread over most of Arabia.  His method of forcing others to convert under duress had several negative consequences, beginning with the civil wars that were immediately engaged in following his death.  Many tribes wanted out of Islam and had to be kept in the empire via horrific violence.
 
Abu Sufyan, the Meccan leader who was literally forced to "embrace" Islam at the point of a sword actually had the last laugh.  He skillfully worked his own family into the line of succession and his son, Muawiya, became the heir to Muhammad's empire at the expense of the prophet's own family.  In fact, Abu Sufyan almost lived to witness his son and grandson kill off Muhammad's own grandchildren and assume control of the Islamic empire.
 
Muhammad's failure to leave a clear successor resulted in a deep schism that quickly devolved into violence and persists to this day as the Sunni/Shia conflict.  His own family fell apart and literally went to war with each other in the first few years.  Thousands of Muslims were killed fighting each other in a battle between Muhammad's favorite wife, Aisha, and his adopted son, Ali.
 
Infidels fared no better.  Through Muhammad's teachings and example, his followers viewed worldly life as a constant physical battle between the House of Peace (Dar al-Salaam) and the House of War (Dar al-Harb).  Muslims are instructed to invite their enemies to either embrace Islam, pay jizya (protection money), or die.
 
Over the next fourteen centuries, the bloody legacy of this extraordinary individual would be a constant challenge to those living on the borders of the Islam’s political power.  The violence that Muslim armies would visit on people across North Africa, the Middle East, Europe and into Asia as far as the Indian subcontinent is a tribute to a founder who practiced and promoted subjugation, rape, murder and forced conversion.
 
In Muhammad's words: "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them..."  (Bukhari 8:387)
 
It is certainly the basis not just for modern day terror campaigns against Western infidels (and Hindus and Buddhists) but also the broad apathy that Muslims across the world have to the violence, which is an obvious enabler.
 
As Indonesian cleric, Abu Bakar Bashir recently put it, "If the West wants to have peace, then they have to accept Islamic rule."  [source - retrieved from  https://www.facebook.com/thegreateststoryevertoldretold/posts/424404047665539   on  4/18/2014] also  [source - retrieved from  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1896693/posts   on  4/18/2014]
 
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1) http://religioustruths.forumsland.com/
 
2) http://www.network54.com/Forum/403209/
 
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7) http://religioustruths.forumotion.com/
 
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5/01/2014 5:39 pm  #16


Re: Dissolve Islam and Give The World Some Needed Peace

BRITISH SOCIETY IS NOT THE BEST, BUT IT FAR BETTER THAN ISLAMIC SOCIETY AND THE MISLEADING AND UNTRUTHS BY MEMBERS OF ISLAM
 
INTRODUCTION:
 
For starters,
 
Muslim sexual morals are really the worst in the world.
 
(1)  One Muslim women reveals the reality with respect their perverted sex desires.  
 
“"For example, in the Chechnyan war, surely there are female Russian captives. So go and buy those and sell them here in Kuwait; better that than have our men engage in forbidden sexual relations. I don't see any problem in this, no problem at all."
Mutairi suggests the enslaved girls be at least 15 years-old.
She further justified the institution of sex-slavery by evoking 8th century caliph, Harun Rashid—a name some may recall from Arabian Nights bedtime stories; a name some may be surprised to discover politically active Muslims modeling their lives after:
"And the greatest example we have is Harun al-Rashid: when he died, he had 2,000 sex slaves—so it's okay, nothing wrong with it."
Mutairi's rationale is ultimately guided by a sense of efficiency, a desire for the good of society: legalizing sex-slaves helps prevent Muslim men from transgressing Allah's laws (as we have seen, extramarital relations with fellow Muslim women is strictly forbidden, but not with infidel sex-slaves, since they are scarcely considered human). Thus, the institution of sex-slavery provides a convenient, Sharia-compliant way of satiating the libidinous urges of Muslim men… Mutairi concluded by piously supplicating Allah: "Oh I truly wish this for Kuwait, Allah willing—Oh Lord, Lord, you are bountiful…"
While she waits, Mutairi can take solace in the fact that, if sex-slavery is not institutionalized in Kuwait, it thrives underground throughout the Muslim world, where non-Muslim girls—mostly Christians—are routinely abducted, enslaved, and forced into lives of unspeakable degradation.
After all, just because a practice is not formally institutionalized does not mean that those who deem it their divine right are not practicing it.  [source - retrieved from   http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2732655/posts  on  4/28/2014]]].
 
(2)  Islam was founded by a demented sexual deviant who was a very brutal good-for-nothing.   To see proof of this, go to,  MUHAMMAD A BRUTAL MAN WORSE THAN ADOLPH HITLER – KNOW THE TRUTH  at  [seventh post down at]  http://religioustruthsbyiris.freeforums.org/dissolve-islam-and-give-the-world-some-needed-peace-t193.html
 
AND, AND YE SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE  (JOHN 8:32, [AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION; ASV] ) – NOW LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT THE FALSE PROPHET MUHAMMAD at [ninth post down at]  http://religioustruths.lefora.com/topic/4214669/Dissolve-Islam-and-Give-The-World-Some-Needed-Peace?page=1#.U2LARHdvuUM
 
AND, MUHAMMAD WAS A SEX PERVERT – SEE THE PROOF  at [2 nd. Post down at]  http://religioustruths.lefora.com/topic/11781657/Readers-Digest-12013-Exposes-Pedophiles-Tacitly-App#.U2LBVHdvuUM
 
(3)  Islam is a violent religion.   To see proof of this, go to,  TODAY IS ANNIVERSARY OF MUSLIM ATTACK ON USA  at  http://religioustruthsbyiris.freeforums.org/today-is-anniversary-of-muslim-attack-on-usa-t206.html
 
AND, Blood, Blood, and More Blood, the Story of Islam  AT,  http://religioustruthsbyiris89.free-forums.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=
 
AND, Islam The Source Of About 95% Of The Religious Inspired Violence In The World:  AT  http://religioustruths.lefora.com/2013/04/19/islam-the-source-of-about-95-of-the-religious-insp/ 
 
YET MEMBERS OF ISLAM SEEK TO MISLEAD AS THEY HATE THE TRUTH – SEE EXAMPLE:


Iftikhar Ahmad commented on British Humanist Association sends copy of The Young Atheist’s Handbook to every secondary school in England and Wales.: "State and faith schools are homes of racism, knife and gun cultures, anti-social behaviour drug addiction, binge drinking, high divorce rate, teenage pregnancies and abortion and incivility. I was shocked and disgusted to hear about the sad stabbing of a teacher by a fifteen years old student in a Catholic college in Leeds. She died because of her injuries. The teacher stabbed to death in a Leeds school was widely viewed as inspirational. Let's remember how important this is.This poor woman was tragically murdered in front of her students. A truly tragic event. Death can claim you when it is least expected. The thought alone reduces my ego tremendously. Rest in Peace Anne Maguire. My thought was what on earth had happened to someone who is described as a nice middle class 15year old boy to make him do such a dreadful thing people will now be baying for his blood like a pack of hunting dogs, despite him been a child, but something went badly wrong in his life and someone must have been responsible for that.  [[Yes, British society has some bad actors among them, and the worse of the worse are members of Islam who commit mass murder by blowing up buses, underground commuter trains, attempt to bomb airports, and have cost the United Kingdom untold funds for extreme security due to their proclivity to wickedness.]]

What sort of shit hole country is this  [[One that members of Islam have made far worse, not better]]? Teachers are abused on a daily basis in this society and something needs to be done. An ex teacher gave a depressing nap shot of the reality of daily life in modern British schools. Modern education is rubbish: Idealistic young teacher Robert Peal says his experience with children at a Birmingham comprehensive led to him losing faith in Britain's schools system. Children today are a product, or a by-product of society. They are responding to what they see in the media and also what is taught at schools. Violence, Gangs, War, Destruction, Money, Stealing, Celebrities, Governments, Control, Aggression, Intimidation, Fame and Fortune, An Angry Society. Citizenship teaches children about all these things as well, possibly before they are ready or capable to understand the complex subjects properly. They respond to what they are exposed to [[Such as Muslims destroying the World Trade Center in New York City and murdering about 3,000 people]]. We have had government after government that have continued the nonsense of political correctness [[Giving into society destructive Muslim demands.]]. From dumbing down subjects and exams to behaviour and lack of discipline. So many surveys are showing that it's harming children, it's harming the results they get. And it absolutely has to be harming UK society when they become adults. Talk to any member of the public and we've known this has been going on for many, many years, but yet, we have these repeated useless governments that pander to political correctness. These minority idiots in government (and teachers unions) think they know best and their views are in opposition to the majority of the public. We can't even sack an under performing teacher! Absolute madness. When Ofsted was introduced just over 25 years ago, everyone was at pains to tell the children and parents that no one was looking at the children, it was the school and its teachers who were being inspected. This caused a paradigm shift in general attitude towards educational establishments. Suddenly, if children didn't achieve it was perceived that it could never be the child's fault, it must always be because they were not being taught properly! It became a big stick to beat teachers with and successive governments have systematically denigrated a once proud, respected and able profession ever since. Not surprising that many of the highly qualified professionals that I know have left the profession and often replaced with lower qualified, cheaper, alternative 'bodies in the classroom'. Kids need discipline. You take that power away from teachers and this is what you get.
[[Conditions are NOT great in the United Kingdom, but they are far, far, far, better than where Muslims are the majority, for example, the New York Post posted the following on their web site: 
 
200 kidnapped girls being forced to marry their militant captorsBy Associated Press
April 30, 2014 | 7:27pm
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MORE ON:NIGERIA234 schoolgirls, not 85, kidnapped by Nigerian extremistsIslamists kidnap 100 schoolgirls who face living hell as sex slavesTerrorist attack at Nigerian bus station kills at least 71Child bride kills husband, his friends with poisoned mealLAGOS, Nigeria — Scores of girls and young women kidnapped from a school in Nigeria are being forced to marry their Islamic extremist abductors, a civic organization reported Wednesday.
At the same time, the Boko Haram terrorist network is negotiating over the students’ fate and is demanding an unspecified ransom for their release, a Borno state community leader told The Associated Press. He said the Wednesday night message from the abductors also claimed that two of the girls have died from snake bites.
The message was sent to a member of a presidential committee mandated last year to mediate a ceasefire with the Islamic extremists, said the civic leader, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak about the talks.
The news of negotiations comes as parents say the girls are being sold into marriage to Boko Haram militants. The students are being paid 2,000 naira ($12) to marry the fighters, Halite Aliyu of the Borno-Yobe People’s Forum told The Associated Press. She said the parents’ information about mass weddings is coming from villagers in the Sambisa Forest, on Nigeria’s border with Cameroon, where Boko Haram is known to have hideouts.
“The latest reports are that they have been taken across the borders, some to Cameroon and Chad,” Aliyu said. It was not possible to verify the reports about more than 200 missing girls kidnapped in the northeast by the Boko Haram terrorist network two weeks ago.
 
 “Some of them have been married off to insurgents. A medieval kind of slavery. You go and capture women and then sell them off,” community elder Pogu Bitrus of Chibok, the town where the girls were abducted, told the BBC Hausa Service.
Outrage over the failure to rescue the girls is growing and hundreds of women braved heavy rain to march Wednesday to Nigeria’s National Assembly to protest lack of action over the students. Hundreds more also marched in Kano, Nigeria’s second city in the north…
 
There also has been no news of 25 girls kidnapped from Konduga town in Borno state earlier this month.
A federal senator from the region said the military is aware of the movements of the kidnappers and the girls because he has been feeding them details that he has gathered on a near-daily basis.
 
“What bothered me the most is that whenever I informed the military where these girls were, after two to three days they were moved from that place to another. Still, I would go back and inform them on new developments,” Sen. Ahmad Zanna is quoted as saying at the Nigerian online news site Persecond News.
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Angry parents take their protests to the streets, calling on the government and kidnappers to bring their daughters home. Desperate families have even taken the search for the over 200 missing girls into their own hands.Photo: ReutersModal TriggerPhoto: EPAZanna said some of the girls are in Kolofata in Cameroon, about 15 kilometers (nine miles) from the border with Nigeria. He said one of the insurgents had called a friend in Borno state to say that he had just got married and was settling in Kolofata. Zanna also said three or four days ago Nigerian herdsmen reported seeing the girls taken in boats onto an island in Lake Chad.
 
Another senator from the region said the government needs to get international help to rescue the girls. The government must do “whatever it takes, even seeking external support to make sure these girls are released,” Sen. Ali Ndume said. “The longer it takes the dimmer the chances of finding them, the longer it takes the more traumatized the family and the abducted girls are.”
 
About 50 of the kidnapped girls managed to escape from their captors in the first days after their abduction, but some 220 remain missing, according to the principal of the Chibok Girls Secondary School, Asabe Kwambura. They are between 16 and 18 years old and had been recalled to the school to write a physics exam.
 
Another senator from the region said the government needs to get international help to rescue the girls. The government must do “whatever it takes, even seeking external support to make sure these girls are released,” Sen. Ali Ndume said. “The longer it takes the dimmer the chances of finding them, the longer it takes the more traumatized the family and the abducted girls are.”
 
About 50 of the kidnapped girls managed to escape from their captors in the first days after their abduction, but some 220 remain missing, according to the principal of the Chibok Girls Secondary School, Asabe Kwambura. They are between 16 and 18 years old and had been recalled to the school to write a physics exam.
 
The failure to rescue the girls is a massive embarrassment to Nigeria’s government and the military, already confronted by mounting criticism over its apparent inability to curb the 5-year-old Islamic uprising despite having draconian powers through an 11-month state of emergency in three northeastern states covering one-sixth of the country.
The military trumpets a success in its “onslaught on terrorists” but then the extremists step up the tempo and deadliness of their attacks. More than 1,500 people have been killed in the insurgency so far this year, compared to an estimated 3,600 between 2010 and 2013.
 
President Goodluck Jonathan, who is from the predominantly Christian south of Nigeria, has been accused of insensitivity to the plight of people in the north, who are mainly Muslims.
People from Nigeria’s northeast feel that they are being punished because they did not vote for Jonathan’s People’s Democratic Party — the entire region is held by opposition politicians, said Aliyu, of the Borno-Yobe People’s Forum. “The northeast zone is in flames and nothing is being done because we didn’t vote PDP,” she said. “Women are raped daily, our children are being carted away like animals and sold like chickens, they (extremists) burn schools, they burn mosques, they raze entire villages.”
 
She said it would take decades to rebuild from the destruction that has forced an estimated 750,000 people from their homes, some into neighboring countries, fleeing the terror of the zealots as well as abuses by the soldiers.
The military’s lack of progress in rescuing the girls indicates that large parts of northeastern Nigeria remain beyond the control of the government. Until the kidnappings, the air force had been mounting near-daily bombing raids since mid-January on the Sambisa Forest and mountain caves bordering Chad.  [source - retrieved from  http://nypost.com/2014/04/30/200-kidnapped-girls-being-forced-to-marry-their-militant-captors/   on  5/1/2014] ]]


Britain has a broken society. This is a dark portrait but it is very true. Children are left to rot and they grew into animals. Binge drinking, drug addiction, a culture of disrespect and antisocial behavior, teenage pregnancies and abortions, knife and gun culture are part and parcel of every day life in all big city centers. The teenage pregnancies and the sheer madness of sex education teach nothing about morality. British society is suffering from unprecedented social decay and societal breakdown, according to the Children¿s Society shocking evidence. Britain has more broken families than other countries. British children are rougher with each other, and live more riskily in terms of alcohol, drugs and teenage pregnancies. Britain's rate of teenage pregnancy is the highest in Western Europe. According to official figures, nearly half of all babies are now born out of wedlock. They are more likely to suffer social, mental and emotional problems. The reason they carry the weapons in the first place is that they feel no one is there to protect them in the first place. I think Jack Straw needs to instil British Values into these children.  [[Bad conditions, but much better than in many Muslim majority countries.  Conditions in the U.K. and the world would be a lot better if Islam was dissolved.]]

British society must learn to respect and tolerate those who are different  [[Like tolerating murder of soldiers on U.K. streets, bombed buses and underground trains, etc.]]. God has created diverse human beings to live in this tiny global village of one family. Creation by its very nature is diverse with different species, different communities, different cultures and languages. These differences represent the beauty and wonder but diversity is sometimes not fully appreciated, resulting in all sorts of clashes. The British society and Establishment must learn to respect and accommodate others, as if in a family. A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children out numbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism. A study by Bristol University reveals that a high level of racial segregation in Oldham schools and tension between communities resulted in recent riots in 2001. The solution is that those schools where Muslim children are majority, may be designated as Muslim community schools. The native parents do not want their children to be educated along with migrant children. As soon as they find that the number of other children are on the increase, they remove their children to those schools where native children are in majority  [[I call people who are ISOLATIONIST and want to live separate in their ghettos the TRUE racist, I am a manority group member but I do not segregate myself.]].

You better teach your children in your own schools and let migrant communities teach their children according to their needs and demands. British Establishment and society should concentrate on the evils of their own society and stop trying to change the way of life of Muslims. Muslim community does not want to integrate with the British society, indulging in incivility, anti-social behaviour, drug and knife culture, binge drinking, teenage pregnancies and abortion. Prince Charles, while visiting the first grant maintained Muslim school in north London, said that the pupils would be the future ambassadors of Islam. But what about thousands of others, who attend state schools deemed to be "sink schools"? In education, there should be a choice and at present it is denied to the Muslim community. In the late 80s and early 90s, when I floated the idea of Muslim community schools, I was declared a "school hijacker" by an editorial in the Newham Recorder newspaper in east London. This clearly shows that the British media does not believe in choice and diversity in the field of education and has no respect for those who are different. Muslim schools, in spite of meager resources, have excelled to a further extent this year, with couple of schools achieving 100% A-C grades for five or more GCSEs. They beat well resourced state and independent schools in Birmingham and Hackney. Muslim schools are doing better because a majority of the teachers are Muslim. The pupils are not exposed to the pressures of racism, multiculturalism and bullying.  [[I have already shown the fallacy to the above in  ISLAM SPREADS MORE MISGUIDANCE THAN ANY OTHER GROUP AND HERE IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF THIS B.S., BUT FIRST A FACTUAL ACCOUNT BY MYSELF:  at  [one of the last post at]  http://religioustruthsbyiris.freeforums.org/dissolve-islam-and-give-the-world-some-needed-peace-t193-10.html ]]
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Re: Dissolve Islam and Give The World Some Needed Peace

ISLAM AN EVIL RELIGION THAT SEEKS TO DENY FREEDOM TO OTHERS AND TO MAKE FORCED CONVERSIONS – LEARN THE TRUTH
 
INTRODUCTION:
 
One member of Islam said, “Fines and jail terms for offences such as indecency and failure to attend Friday prayers, with future penalties to include flogging and death by stoning,” but neglected to tell the truth which is as follows:
 
Brunei under Sharia will deny Christians religious freedom: “There will be no baptisms. There is not a lot we can do about it.”Robert Spencer Apr 2, 2014 at 4:28pm BruneiNon-Muslims in Muslim countriesSharia 39 Comments
As Brunei implements Sharia this month, Christians there are worried that they will be denied basic rights — and they will be, as Islamic law mandates a second-class status for non-Muslims, with Muslims enjoying rights and privileges to which non-Muslims are not privy. But the global “human rights community” is unconcerned about this institutionalized bigotry and discrimination, because to be concerned about it would be “Islamophobic.”
“No baptisms in Brunei by 2016? Concerns raised over shift to new Islamic law system,” from GMA News, April 1:
Baptisms may soon be outlawed in Brunei as the country shifts to a full system of Islamic law—a potential major cause of concern among Catholic and other non-Muslim Filipinos there.
report on UK’s The Independent said Philippine Ambassador to Brunei Nestor Ochoa recently held a meeting to warn Filipinos of possible implications of the new system.
Brunei hosts 30,000 Filipinos, most of whom are Catholics, and to whom baptisms may be out of reach in two years’ time.
“There will be no baptisms. There is not a lot we can do about it. We will have to wait and see what happens,” Father Robert Leong, a Catholic priest in Brunei, told The Independent.
Under the new rules, propagation of religion other than Islam to a Muslim or atheist is an offense. Brunei Times reported that offenders will pay a fine up to $20,000 or face imprisonment for up to five years or both under Section 209.
separate report on Brunei Times said legal experts from the Ministry of Religious Affairs and the Prime Minister’s Office in Brunei have warned private education institutions from committing such offenses.
Under the new law, it is a crime to “expose the child to any ceremony, act of worship or religious activity of any religion beside Islam, or to participate in any activity held for the benefit of other religions.”
Both Muslims and non-Muslims are subject to the law, but certain offenses are only applicable to Muslims.
Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah, the 67-year-old leader of Brunei, declared the shift to a full Sharia system in 2013. He said the system acted as a “strong and effective firewall” against challenges posed by globalization.
Bolkiah warned Brunei netizens in March that they may face legal actions for criticizing the legal shift.
“They can no longer be given the liberty to continue with their mockery and if there is a basis for them to be brought to court, then therefore, the first phase of the Syariah (criminal) law this coming April will be relevant to them,” Global Voices Online quoted Bolkiah as saying.
He also cautioned younger generations against the influence of international netizens who wish to “instigate conflict and do not respect their leader or government.” — Rie Takumi/KBK/JL, GMA News”   [source - retrieved from  http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/brunei-under-sharia-will-deny-christians-religious-freedom-there-will-be-no-baptisms-there-is-not-a-lot-we-can-do-about-it   on  5/1/2014]
This action clearly shows the wicked nature of Islam, and its hate for others.   But many of their members try to cover up this reality:
HIGHLIGHTS OF ISLAMIC ‘GARBAGE’ THIS MEMBER OF ISLAM SENT TO ME:
I am only giving the highlights so all can quickly see how evil the thinking of many members of this religion are.
FALSE CLAIM NUMBER 1 – “It is the West that stirred the trouble that led to 9/11. That attack was a desperate act of by men prepared to lose their life.”
 
An outright lie, the owner of the World Trade Center, Silverstein, never did anything wrong to any Muslim, nor did the almost 3,000 murdered individuals in the WTC.   Now to know reality, go to, 
 
TODAY IS ANNIVERSARY OF MUSLIM ATTACK ON USA  at  http://religioustruthsbyiris.freeforums.org/today-is-anniversary-of-muslim-attack-on-usa-t206.html
 
AND, Blood, Blood, and More Blood, the Story of Islam  AT,  http://religioustruthsbyiris89.free-forums.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=
 
AND, Islam The Source Of About 95% Of The Religious Inspired Violence In The World:  AT  http://religioustruths.lefora.com/2013/04/19/islam-the-source-of-about-95-of-the-religious-insp/ 
 
YES, it is standard operating procedure of this evil religion to always try and pin the blame on others for their wicked acts.   No honesty in this evil false religion.
 
FALSE CLAIM NUMBER 2 – “Islam is a peaceful religion,”   For this claim, they should be given the liars award of the year.  Let’s look at the facts as found in the Quran:
 
Is Islam a Peaceful Religion Per The Quran?
 
Take a good look at the following teachings from the Suras in the Quaran, by comparison to the Christian Bible. The bottom line is, which of the two, after a thorough evaluation offer love and peace and God's only plan of salvation to everyone, and eternal life with Him.
 
-1-
 
Islam teaches: Jesus is not the Son of God, did not die for our sins, was not crucified, was not divine as well as human and is not the Savior of the world. Suras 4:157; 5:19. 75; 9:30.  We shall now look at these Suras in three (3) different versions of the Quran in English:
 
004.157
YUSUFALI: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
 
PICKTHAL: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.
 
SHAKIR: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
 
005.019
YUSUFALI: O People of the Book! Now hath come unto you, making (things) clear unto you, Our Messenger, after the break in (the series of) our messengers, lest ye should say: "There came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner (from evil)": But now hath come unto you a bringer of glad tidings and a warner (from evil). And Allah hath power over all things.
 
PICKTHAL: O People of the Scripture! Now hath Our messenger come unto you to make things plain unto you after an interval (of cessation) of the messengers, lest ye should say: There came not unto us a messenger of cheer nor any warner. Now hath a messenger of cheer and a warner come unto you. Allah is Able to do all things.
 
SHAKIR: O followers of the Book! indeed Our Messenger has come to you explaining to you after a cessation of the (mission of the) messengers, lest you say: There came not to us a giver of good news or a warner, so indeed there has come to you a giver of good news and a warner; and Allah has power over all things.
 
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YUSUFALI: Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
 
PICKTHAL: The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat (earthly) food. See how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away!
 
SHAKIR: The Messiah, son of Marium is but a messenger; messengers before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman; they both used to eat food. See how We make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away.
 
009.030
YUSUFALI: The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
 
PICKTHAL: And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!
 
SHAKIR: And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
 
In Sura 18:10, Allah told Muhammed: "Say, I am but a man like yourselves."
 
018.010
YUSUFALI: Behold, the youths betook themselves to the Cave: they said, "Our Lord! bestow on us Mercy from Thyself, and dispose of our affair for us in the right way!"
 
PICKTHAL: When the young men fled for refuge to the Cave and said: Our Lord! Give us mercy from Thy presence, and shape for us right conduct in our plight.
 
SHAKIR: When the youths sought refuge in the cave, they said: Our Lord! grant us mercy from Thee, and provide for us a right course in our affair.
 
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The Quaran gives four conflicting accounts of how Muhammed was called a prophet. 1. In Suras 53:2-18 and 81:19-24, Allah personally appeared. 2. In Suras 16:102 and 26:192-194 he was called by the "Holy Spirit." 3. In Sura 15:8, the angels announced his prophetic ministry. 4. In Suras 46:29-35; 72:1-28, the angel Gabriel told him of his ministry and gave him the Quaran. Muhammed's first supposed converts were Genies, but no one confirms his priesthood.
 
[1]
 
Suras 53:2-18:
 
053.002
YUSUFALI: Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled.
PICKTHAL: Your comrade erreth not, nor is deceived;
SHAKIR: Your companion does not err, nor does he go astray;
 
053.003
YUSUFALI: Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) Desire.
PICKTHAL: Nor doth he speak of (his own) desire.
SHAKIR: Nor does he speak out of desire.
 
053.004
YUSUFALI: It is no less than inspiration sent down to him:
PICKTHAL: It is naught save an inspiration that is inspired,
SHAKIR: It is naught but revelation that is revealed,
 
053.005
YUSUFALI: He was taught by one Mighty in Power,
PICKTHAL: Which one of mighty powers hath taught him,
SHAKIR: The Lord of Mighty Power has taught him,
 
053.006
YUSUFALI: Endued with Wisdom: for he appeared (in stately form);
PICKTHAL: One vigorous; and he grew clear to view
SHAKIR: The Lord of Strength; so he attained completion,
 
053.007
YUSUFALI: While he was in the highest part of the horizon:
PICKTHAL: When he was on the uppermost horizon.
SHAKIR: And he is in the highest part of the horizon.
 
053.008
YUSUFALI: Then he approached and came closer,
PICKTHAL: Then he drew nigh and came down
SHAKIR: Then he drew near, then he bowed
 
053.009
YUSUFALI: And was at a distance of but two bow-lengths or (even) nearer;
PICKTHAL: Till he was (distant) two bows' length or even nearer,
SHAKIR: So he was the measure of two bows or closer still.
 
053.010
YUSUFALI: So did (Allah) convey the inspiration to His Servant- (conveyed) what He (meant) to convey.
PICKTHAL: And He revealed unto His slave that which He revealed.
SHAKIR: And He revealed to His servant what He revealed.
 
053.011
YUSUFALI: The (Prophet's) (mind and) heart in no way falsified that which he saw.
PICKTHAL: The heart lied not (in seeing) what it saw.
SHAKIR: The heart was not untrue in (making him see) what he saw.
 
053.012
YUSUFALI: Will ye then dispute with him concerning what he saw?
PICKTHAL: Will ye then dispute with him concerning what he seeth?
SHAKIR: What! do you then dispute with him as to what he saw?
 
053.013
YUSUFALI: For indeed he saw him at a second descent,
PICKTHAL: And verily he saw him yet another time
SHAKIR: And certainly he saw him in another descent,
 
053.014
YUSUFALI: Near the Lote-tree beyond which none may pass:
PICKTHAL: By the lote-tree of the utmost boundary,
SHAKIR: At the farthest lote-tree;
 
053.015
YUSUFALI: Near it is the Garden of Abode.
PICKTHAL: Nigh unto which is the Garden of Abode.
SHAKIR: Near which is the garden, the place to be resorted to.
 
053.016
YUSUFALI: Behold, the Lote-tree was shrouded (in mystery unspeakable!)
PICKTHAL: When that which shroudeth did enshroud the lote-tree,
SHAKIR: When that which covers covered the lote-tree;
 
053.017
YUSUFALI: (His) sight never swerved, nor did it go wrong!
PICKTHAL: The eye turned not aside nor yet was overbold.
SHAKIR: The eye did not turn aside, nor did it exceed the limit.
 
053.018
YUSUFALI: For truly did he see, of the Signs of his Lord, the Greatest!
PICKTHAL: Verily he saw one of the greater revelations of his Lord.
SHAKIR: Certainly he saw of the greatest signs of his Lord. 81:19-24
 
Suras 81:19-24:
 
081.019
YUSUFALI: Verily this is the word of a most honourable Messenger,
PICKTHAL: That this is in truth the word of an honoured messenger,
SHAKIR: Most surely it is the Word of an honored messenger,
 
081.020
YUSUFALI: Endued with Power, with rank before the Lord of the Throne,
PICKTHAL: Mighty, established in the presence of the Lord of the Throne,
SHAKIR: The processor of strength, having an honorable place with the Lord of the Dominion,
 
081.021
YUSUFALI: With authority there, (and) faithful to his trust.
PICKTHAL: (One) to be obeyed, and trustworthy;
SHAKIR: One (to be) obeyed, and faithful in trust.
 
081.022
YUSUFALI: And (O people!) your companion is not one possessed;
PICKTHAL: And your comrade is not mad.
SHAKIR: And your companion is not gone mad.
 
081.023
YUSUFALI: And without doubt he saw him in the clear horizon.
PICKTHAL: Surely he beheld Him on the clear horizon.
SHAKIR: And of a truth he saw himself on the clear horizon.
 
081.024
YUSUFALI: Neither doth he withhold grudgingly a knowledge of the Unseen.
PICKTHAL: And he is not avid of the Unseen.
SHAKIR: Nor of the unseen is he a tenacious concealer.
 
[2]
 
Sura 16:102:
 
016.102
YUSUFALI: Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.
PICKTHAL: Say: The holy Spirit hath delivered it from thy Lord with truth, that it may confirm (the faith of) those who believe, and as guidance and good tidings for those who have surrendered (to Allah).
SHAKIR: Say: The Holy spirit has revealed it from your Lord with the truth, that it may establish those who believe and as a guidance and good news for those who submit.
 
Suras 26:192-194:
 
026.192
YUSUFALI: Verily this is a Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds:
PICKTHAL: And lo! it is a revelation of the Lord of the Worlds,
SHAKIR: And most surely this is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
026.193
YUSUFALI: With it came down the spirit of Faith and Truth-
PICKTHAL: Which the True Spirit hath brought down
SHAKIR: The Faithful Spirit has descended with it,
026.194
YUSUFALI: To thy heart and mind, that thou mayest admonish.
PICKTHAL: Upon thy heart, that thou mayst be (one) of the warners,
SHAKIR: Upon your heart that you may be of the warners
 
[3]
 
Sura 15:8:
 
015.008
YUSUFALI: We send not the angels down except for just cause: if they came (to the ungodly), behold! no respite would they have!
PICKTHAL: We send not down the angels save with the Fact, and in that case (the disbelievers) would not be tolerated.
SHAKIR: We do not send the angels but with truth, and then they would not be respited.
 
[4]
 
Suras 46:29-35:
 
046.029
YUSUFALI: Behold, We turned towards thee a company of Jinns (quietly) listening to the Qur'an: when they stood in the presence thereof, they said, "Listen in silence!" When the (reading) was finished, they returned to their people, to warn (them of their sins).
PICKTHAL: And when We inclined toward thee (Muhammad) certain of the jinn, who wished to hear the Qur'an and, when they were in its presence, said: Give ear! and, when it was finished, turned back to their people, warning.
SHAKIR: And when We turned towards you a party of the jinn who listened to the Quran; so when they came to it, they said: Be silent; then when it was finished, they turned back to their people warning (them).
 
046.030
YUSUFALI: They said, "O our people! We have heard a Book revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it: it guides (men) to the Truth and to a Straight Path.
PICKTHAL: They said: O our people! Lo! we have heard a scripture which hath been revealed after Moses, confirming that which was before it, guiding unto the truth and a right road.
SHAKIR: They said: O our people! we have listened to a Book revealed after Musa verifying that which is before it, guiding to the truth and to a right path:
 
046.031
YUSUFALI: "O our people, hearken to the one who invites (you) to Allah, and believe in him: He will forgive you your faults, and deliver you from a Penalty Grievous.
PICKTHAL: O our people! respond to Allah's summoner and believe in Him. He will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from a painful doom.
SHAKIR: O our people! accept the Divine caller and believe in Him, He will forgive you of your faults and protect you from a painful punishment.
 
046.032
YUSUFALI: "If any does not hearken to the one who invites (us) to Allah, he cannot frustrate (Allah's Plan) on earth, and no protectors can he have besides Allah: such men (wander) in manifest error."
PICKTHAL: And whoso respondeth not to Allah's summoner he can nowise escape in the earth, and he hath no protecting friends instead of Him. Such are in error manifest.
SHAKIR: And whoever does not accept the-Divine caller, he shall not escape in the earth and he shall not have guardians besides Him, these are in manifest error.
 
046.033
YUSUFALI: See they not that Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth, and never wearied with their creation, is able to give life to the dead? Yea, verily He has power over all things.
PICKTHAL: Have they not seen that Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth and was not wearied by their creation, is Able to give life to the dead? Aye, He verily is Able to do all things.
SHAKIR: Have they not considered that Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth and was not tired by their creation, is able to give life to the dead? Aye! He has surely power over all things.
 
046.034
YUSUFALI: And on the Day that the Unbelievers will be placed before the Fire, (they will be asked,) "Is this not the Truth?" they will say, "Yea, by our Lord!" (One will say "Then taste ye the Penalty, for that ye were wont to deny (Truth)!"
PICKTHAL: And on the day when those who disbelieve are exposed to the Fire (they will be asked): Is not this real? They will say: Yea, by our Lord. He will say: Then taste the doom for that ye disbelieved.
SHAKIR: And on the day when those who disbelieve shall be brought before the fire: Is it not true? They shall say: Aye! by our Lord! He will say: Then taste the punishment, because you disbelieved.
 
046.035
YUSUFALI: Therefore patiently persevere, as did (all) messengers of inflexible purpose; and be in no haste about the (Unbelievers). On the Day that they see the (Punishment) promised them, (it will be) as if they had not tarried more than an hour in a single day. (Thine but) to proclaim the Message: but shall any be destroyed except those who transgress?
PICKTHAL: Then have patience (O Muhammad) even as the stout of heart among the messengers (of old) had patience, and seek not to hasten on (the doom) for them. On the day when they see that which they are promised (it will seem to them) as though they had tarried but an hour of daylight. A clear message. Shall any be destroyed save evil-living folk?
SHAKIR: Therefore bear up patiently as did the messengers endowed with constancy bear up with patience and do not seek to hasten for them (their doom). On the day that they shall see what they are promised they shall be as if they had not tarried save an hour of the day. A sufficient exposition! Shall then any be destroyed save the transgressing people?
 
Suras 72:1-28:
 
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YUSUFALI: Say: It has been revealed to me that a company of Jinns listened (to the Qur'an). They said, 'We have really heard a wonderful Recital!
PICKTHAL: Say (O Muhammad): It is revealed unto me that a company of the Jinn gave ear, and they said: Lo! we have heard a marvellous Qur'an,
SHAKIR: Say: It has been revealed to me that a party of the jinn listened, and they said: Surely we have heard a wonderful Quran,
 
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YUSUFALI: 'It gives guidance to the Right, and we have believed therein: we shall not join (in worship) any (gods) with our Lord.
PICKTHAL: Which guideth unto righteousness, so we believe in it and we ascribe no partner unto our Lord.
SHAKIR: Guiding to the right way, so we believe in it, and we will not set up any one with our Lord:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'And Exalted is the Majesty of our Lord: He has taken neither a wife nor a son.
PICKTHAL: And (we believe) that He - exalted be the glory of our Lord! - hath taken neither wife nor son,
SHAKIR: And that He-- exalted be the majesty of our Lord-- has not taken a consort, nor a son:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'There were some foolish ones among us, who used to utter extravagant lies against Allah;
PICKTHAL: And that the foolish one among us used to speak concerning Allah an atrocious lie.
SHAKIR: And that the foolish amongst us used to forge extravagant things against Allah:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'But we do think that no man or spirit should say aught that untrue against Allah.
PICKTHAL: And lo! we had supposed that humankind and jinn would not speak a lie concerning Allah -
SHAKIR: And that we thought that men and jinn did not utter a lie against Allah:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'True, there were persons among mankind who took shelter with persons among the Jinns, but they increased them in folly.
PICKTHAL: And indeed (O Muhammad) individuals of humankind used to invoke the protection of individuals of the jinn, so that they increased them in revolt against Allah);
SHAKIR: And that persons from among men used to seek refuge with persons from among jinn, so they increased them in wrongdoing:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'And they (came to) think as ye thought, that Allah would not raise up any one (to Judgment).
PICKTHAL: And indeed they supposed, even as ye suppose, that Allah would not raise anyone (from the dead) -
SHAKIR: And that they thought as you think, that Allah would not raise anyone:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'And we pried into the secrets of heaven; but we found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires.
PICKTHAL: And (the Jinn who had listened to the Qur'an said): We had sought the heaven but had found it filled with strong warders and meteors.
SHAKIR: And that we sought to reach heaven, but we found it filled with strong guards and flaming stars.
 
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YUSUFALI: 'We used, indeed, to sit there in (hidden) stations, to (steal) a hearing; but any who listen now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.
PICKTHAL: And we used to sit on places (high) therein to listen. But he who listeneth now findeth a flame in wait for him;
SHAKIR: And that we used to sit in some of the sitting-places thereof to steal a hearing, but he who would (try to) listen now would find a flame lying in wait for him:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'And we understand not whether ill is intended to those on earth, or whether their Lord (really) intends to guide them to right conduct.
PICKTHAL: And we know not whether harm is boded unto all who are in the earth, or whether their Lord intendeth guidance for them.
SHAKIR: And that we know not whether evil is meant for those who are on earth or whether their Lord means to bring them good:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'There are among us some that are righteous, and some the contrary: we follow divergent paths.
PICKTHAL: And among us there are righteous folk and among us there are far from that. We are sects having different rules.
SHAKIR: And that some of us are good and others of us are below that: we are sects following different ways:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'But we think that we can by no means frustrate Allah throughout the earth, nor can we frustrate Him by flight.
PICKTHAL: And we know that we cannot escape from Allah in the earth, nor can we escape by flight.
SHAKIR: And that we know that we cannot escape Allah in the earth, nor can we escape Him by flight:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'And as for us, since we have listened to the Guidance, we have accepted it: and any who believes in his Lord has no fear, either of a short (account) or of any injustice.
PICKTHAL: And when we heard the guidance, we believed therein, and whoso believeth in his Lord, he feareth neither loss nor oppression.
SHAKIR: And that when we heard the guidance, we believed in it; so whoever believes in his Lord, he should neither fear loss nor being overtaken (by disgrace):
 
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YUSUFALI: 'Amongst us are some that submit their wills (to Allah), and some that swerve from justice. Now those who submit their wills - they have sought out (the path) of right conduct:
PICKTHAL: And there are among us some who have surrendered (to Allah) and there are among us some who are unjust. And whoso hath surrendered to Allah, such have taken the right path purposefully.
SHAKIR: And that some of us are those who submit, and some of us are the deviators; so whoever submits, these aim at the right way:
 
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YUSUFALI: 'But those who swerve,- they are (but) fuel for Hell-fire'-
PICKTHAL: And as for those who are unjust, they are firewood for hell.
SHAKIR: And as to the deviators, they are fuel of hell:
 
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YUSUFALI: (And Allah's Message is): "If they (the Pagans) had (only) remained on the (right) Way, We should certainly have bestowed on them Rain in abundance.
PICKTHAL: If they (the idolaters) tread the right path, We shall give them to drink of water in abundance
SHAKIR: And that if they should keep to the (right) way, We would certainly give them to drink of abundant water,
 
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YUSUFALI: "That We might try them by that (means). But if any turns away from the remembrance of his Lord, He will cause him to undergo a severe Penalty.
PICKTHAL: That We may test them thereby, and whoso turneth away from the remembrance of his Lord; He will thrust him into ever-growing torment.
SHAKIR: So that We might try them with respect to it; and whoever turns aside from the reminder of his Lord, He will make him enter into an afflicting chastisement:
 
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YUSUFALI: "And the places of worship are for Allah (alone): So invoke not any one along with Allah;
PICKTHAL: And the places of worship are only for Allah, so pray not unto anyone along with Allah.
SHAKIR: And that the mosques are Allah's, therefore call not upon any one with Allah:
 
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YUSUFALI: "Yet when the Devotee of Allah stands forth to invoke Him, they just make round him a dense crowd."
PICKTHAL: And when the slave of Allah stood up in prayer to Him, they crowded on him, almost stifling.
SHAKIR: And that when the servant of Allah stood up calling upon Him, they wellnigh crowded him (to death).
 
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YUSUFALI: Say: "I do no more than invoke my Lord, and I join not with Him any (false god)."
PICKTHAL: Say (unto them, O Muhammad): I pray unto Allah only, and ascribe unto Him no partner.
SHAKIR: Say: I only call upon my Lord, and I do not associate any one with Him.
 
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YUSUFALI: Say: "It is not in my power to cause you harm, or to bring you to right conduct."
PICKTHAL: Say: Lo! I control not hurt nor benefit for you.
SHAKIR: Say: I do not control for you evil or good.
 
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YUSUFALI: Say: "No one can deliver me from Allah (If I were to disobey Him), nor should I find refuge except in Him,
PICKTHAL: Say: Lo! none can protect me from Allah, nor can I find any refuge beside Him
SHAKIR: Say: Surely no one can protect me against Allah, nor can I find besides Him any place of refuge:
 
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YUSUFALI: "Unless I proclaim what I receive from Allah and His Messages: for any that disobey Allah and His Messenger,- for them is Hell: they shall dwell therein for ever."
PICKTHAL: (Mine is) but conveyance (of the Truth) from Allah, and His messages; and whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger, lo! his is fire of hell, wherein such dwell for ever.
SHAKIR: (It is) only a delivering (of communications) from Allah and His messages; and whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger surely he shall have the fire of hell to abide therein for a long time.
 
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YUSUFALI: At length, when they see (with their own eyes) that which they are promised,- then will they know who it is that is weakest in (his) helper and least important in point of numbers.
PICKTHAL: Till (the day) when they shall behold that which they are promised (they may doubt); but then they will know (for certain) who is weaker in allies and less in multitude.
SHAKIR: Until when they see what they are threatened with, then shall they know who is weaker in helpers and fewer in number.
 
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YUSUFALI: Say: "I know not whether the (Punishment) which ye are promised is near, or whether my Lord will appoint for it a distant term.
PICKTHAL: Say (O Muhammad, unto the disbelievers): I know not whether that which ye are promised is nigh, or if my Lord hath set a distant term for it.
SHAKIR: Say: I do not know whether that with which you are threatened be nigh or whether my Lord will appoint for it a term:
 
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YUSUFALI: "He (alone) knows the Unseen, nor does He make any one acquainted with His Mysteries,-
PICKTHAL: (He is) the Knower of the Unseen, and He revealeth unto none His secret,
SHAKIR: The Knower of the unseen! so He does not reveal His secrets to any,
 
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YUSUFALI: "Except a messenger whom He has chosen: and then He makes a band of watchers march before him and behind him,
PICKTHAL: Save unto every messenger whom He hath chosen, and then He maketh a guard to go before him and a guard behind him
SHAKIR: Except to him whom He chooses as a messenger; for surely He makes a guard to march before him and after him,
 
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YUSUFALI: "That He may know that they have (truly) brought and delivered the Messages of their Lord: and He surrounds (all the mysteries) that are with them, and takes account of every single thing."
PICKTHAL: That He may know that they have indeed conveyed the messages of their Lord. He surroundeth all their doings, and He keepeth count of all things.
SHAKIR: So that He may know that they have truly delivered the messages of their Lord, and He encompasses what is with them and He records the number of all things.
 
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Islam uses Jihad ["Holy war"] to force their religion upon others. In Hadith vol.1, no. 25, [Translation of Sahih Bukhari Hadith by M. Muhsin Khan ],it states that Jihad, or holy war, is the second best thing to believing in Allah and his apostle [Muhammed]. When Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied. "To believe in Allah and his Apostle." The questioner then asked, "What is the next?" He replied, "To participate in Jihad [holy war] in Allah's cause."
 
In Sura 9:5, the Quaran requires violence, when it states, "Fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every strategem of war."
 
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YUSUFALI: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
 
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Sura 5:33 records what is done to infidels who resist Islam, "Their punishment is...execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from the opposite sides, or exile from the land." Muhammed also burned out eyes with hot irons in Hadith vol.1 no. 234, [Translation of Sahih Bukhari Hadith by M. Muhsin Khan ] and deprived people of water until they died, vol.8 no. 796, [Translation of Sahih Bukhari Hadith by M. Muhsin Khan ].
 
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YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
 
 
 
In Sura 4:34, women are treated badly: "Men are the managers of the affairs of women...Those you fear may be rebellious...admonish; banish them to their couches and beat them."
 
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YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
PICKTHAL: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
 
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Torment to Non-believers:
Sura 4.56: (As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them, S enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.
 
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YUSUFALI: Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.
PICKTHAL: Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.
SHAKIR: (As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.
 
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Islam Acceptable:
Sura 3.85: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
 
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YUSUFALI: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).
PICKTHAL: And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.
SHAKIR: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
 
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No friends from outsiders
Sura 3.118: O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people; they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand.
 
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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Take not for intimates others than your own folk, who would spare no pains to ruin you; they love to hamper you. Hatred is revealed by (the utterance of) their mouths, but that which their breasts hide is greater. We have made plain for you the revelations if ye will understand.
SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people; they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand.
 
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Friends with Jews, Christians...
Sura 5.51: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
 
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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
 
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No friends with non believers
Sura 4.144: O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?
 
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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Choose not disbelievers for (your) friends in place of believers. Would ye give Allah a clear warrant against you?
SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?
 
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No friends with non believers
Sura 3.28: Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.
 
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YUSUFALI: Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
PICKTHAL: Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.
SHAKIR: Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.
 
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No friends with parents/siblings if not believers
Sura 9.23: O you who believe! do not take your fathers and your brothers for guardians if they love unbelief more than belief; and whoever of you takes them for a guardian, these it is that are the unjust.
 
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YUSUFALI: Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
PICKTHAL: Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.
SHAKIR: Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.
 
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Fight non-believers
Sura 9.123: O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
 
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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).
SHAKIR: O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
 
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Kill non-believers
Sura 4.89 : They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
 
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YUSUFALI: They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-
PICKTHAL: They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,
SHAKIR: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
 
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Anti Jewish verses
Sura 5.82: Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly.
 
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YUSUFALI: Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
PICKTHAL: Thou wilt find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who believe (to be) the Jews and the idolaters. And thou wilt find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe (to be) those who say: Lo! We are Christians. That is because there are among them priests and monks, and because they are not proud.
SHAKIR: Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly.
 
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God a plotter
Sura 8.30: And when those who disbelieved devised plans against you that they might confine you or slay you or drive you away; and they devised plans and Allah too had arranged a plan; and Allah is the best of planners.
 
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YUSUFALI: Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get thee out (of thy home). They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah.
PICKTHAL: And when those who disbelieve plot against thee (O Muhammad) to wound thee fatally, or to kill thee or to drive thee forth; they plot, but Allah (also) plotteth; and Allah is the best of plotters.
SHAKIR: And when those who disbelieved devised plans against you that they might confine you or slay you or drive you away; and they devised plans and Allah too had arranged a plan; and Allah is the best of planners.
 
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Killing Idolaters
Sura 9.5: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
 
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YUSUFALI: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
 
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Idolaters are unclean just because they are idolater
Sura 9.28: O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.
 
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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! The idolaters only are unclean. So let them not come near the Inviolable Place of Worship after this their year. If ye fear poverty (from the loss of their merchandise) Allah shall preserve you of His bounty if He will. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise.
SHAKIR: O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.
 
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Forcing non-believers to pay tax
Sura 9.29: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
 
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YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
PICKTHAL: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
SHAKIR: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
 
[note: force people to believe by putting them in a state of subjection, no religious freedom here, yet they want it for themselves.]
 
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And that's only the tip of the iceberg!
 
 
The key to the differences between Christianity and that of Islam, is the teachings found in the Bible vs that of the Quran, such as what Jesus taught in the NT:
 
John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son: that whosoever believeth in him may not perish, but may have life everlasting." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible; DRCB).
 
John 10:17-30," Therefore doth the Father love me: because I lay down my life, that I may take it again.
18  No man taketh it away from me: but I lay it down of myself. And I have power to lay it down: and I have power to take it up again. This commandment have I received of my Father.  19 ¶  A dissension rose again among the Jews for these words.  20  And many of them said: He hath a devil and is mad. Why hear you him?  21  Others said: These are not the words of one that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?  22 ¶  And it was the feast of the dedication at Jerusalem: and it was winter.  23  And Jesus walked in the temple, in Solomon's porch.  24  The Jews therefore came round about him and said to him: How long dost thou hold our souls in suspense? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.  25  Jesus answered them: I speak to you, and you believe not: the works that I do in the name of my Father, they give testimony of me.  26  But you do not believe, because you are not of my sheep.  27 My sheep hear my voice. And I know them: and they follow me.  28  And I give them life everlasting: and they shall not perish for ever. And no man shall pluck them out of my hand.  29  That which my Father hath given me is greater than all: and no one can snatch them out of the hand of my Father.  30  I and the Father are one." (DRCB).
 
Matthew 22:37-40, "Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart and with thy whole soul and with thy whole mind.  38  This is the greatest and the first commandment.  39  And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.  40  On these two commandments dependeth the whole law and the prophets." (DRCB).
 
 
John 17:1-5, "And after six days Jesus taketh unto him Peter and James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into a high mountain apart:  2  And he was transfigured before them. And his face did shine as the sun: and his garments became white as snow.  3  And behold there appeared to them Moses and Elias talking with him.  4  And Peter answering, said to Jesus: Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles, one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.  5  And as he was yet speaking, behold a bright cloud overshadowed them. And lo a voice out of the cloud, saying: This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased: hear ye him" (DRCB),  Jesus' (Yeshua) prayer to his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is.
 
John 11:25-26, "Jesus said to her: I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, although he be dead, shall live:  26  And every one that liveth and believeth in me shall not die for ever. Believest thou this?" (DRCB).
 
[Note, John 14:6, "Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me." (DRCB).]
 
Matthew 19:18-19," He said to him: Which? And Jesus said: Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness.  19  Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." (DRCB).
 
John 15:5-8, "I am the vine: you the branches. He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same beareth much fruit: for without me you can do nothing.  6  If any one abide not in me, he shall be cast forth as a branch and shall wither: and they shall gather him up and cast him into the fire: and he burneth.  7  If you abide in me and my words abide in you, you shall ask whatever you will: and it shall be done unto you.  8  In this is my Father glorified: that you bring forth very much fruit and become my disciples." (DRCB).
 
John 14:1-4, "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.  2  In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.  3  And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.  4 ¶  And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
 
John 14:28, "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (DRCB).
 
Quite a contrast between the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible, and the distorted Bible knockoff whose emphasis is on hate and violence and the Bible's whose emphasis is on love.
 
If any need further proof of Islam’s not being a ‘peaceful religion,’ just read the world news.   Or, go to,  Islam The Source Of About 95% Of The Religious Inspired Violence In The World:  AT  http://religioustruths.lefora.com/2013/04/19/islam-the-source-of-about-95-of-the-religious-insp/ 
 
FALSE CLAIM NUMBER 3 – “terrorism arose in response to the massive killings done by the west in Muslim lands, starting with Afghanistan,”
 
REALITY, The entire war was precipitated by a Muslim attack on America; to wit, Islam lit the fuse and was responsible for ALL THAT FOLLOWED.   For more details, go to the World news and to TODAY IS ANNIVERSARY OF MUSLIM ATTACK ON USA at  http://religioustruthsbyiris.freeforums.org/today-is-anniversary-of-muslim-attack-on-usa-t206.html , we do NOT need more of teaching that leads individuals to do such things.
 
FALSE CLAIM NUMBER 4 – “If Islam is so bad, then why is it the WORLD’S FASTEST GROWING RELIGION!”   Forced conversions were responsible for over 50% of the people now in Islam.   In fact in the 10 century in greater India (Afghanistan, Pakistan, and present day India) they murdered between 80 and 100 million who refused to convert.  For details, go to,  Islam, Violent From The Beginning Using India as An Example:  at  http://religioustruthsbyiris89.free-forums.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59  
 
Now to know the truth, go to:
 
1) http://religioustruths.forumsland.com/
 
2) http://www.network54.com/Forum/403209/
 
3) http://religioustruths.lefora.com/
 
4) http://religioustruths.boardhost.com/
 
5) http://religious-truths.forums.com/
 
6) http://religioustruthsbyiris.createmybb3.com/
 
7) http://religioustruths.forumotion.com/
 
To enjoy an online Bible study called “Follow the Christ” go to,  http://religious-truths.forums.com/default/digital-book-on-18-part-follow-christ-bible-study-3?replies=6#post-1421
 
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Francis David said it long ago, "Neither the sword of popes...nor the image of death will halt the march of truth. "Francis David, 1579, written on the wall of his prison cell." Read the book, "What Does The Bible Really Teach" and the Bible today, and go to www.jw.org!

 

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5/03/2014 7:56 am  #18


Re: Dissolve Islam and Give The World Some Needed Peace

ISLAM’S DIVERGENT CONCEPT ON HOW OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD BE TREATED:
 
INTRODUCTION:
 
True Christians believe in treating others as they would want to be treated.
 
True Muslims believe in treating others as they WOULD NOT WANT TO BE TREATED.
 
As can be seen, these concepts on how to treat others is very different.
 
Examples – how the Islamic concept works in practice:
 
FIRST, Members of Islam in the Gaza strip and Lebanon feel it is OKAY to fire missiles at Israel, but rail against Israel for striking back.   (They do not like bad treatment in return for their bad treatment.
 
SECOND, Members of Islam in Afghanistan felt it okay to attack the World Trade Center in New York, and murder 3,000, but screamed bloody murder when the USA and NATO hit back.   They falsely even have the nerve to claim, “terrorism arose in response to the massive killings done by the west in Muslim lands, starting with Afghanistan,” and this their chronology of time is backwards.
 
For details, go to:
 
TODAY IS ANNIVERSARY OF MUSLIM ATTACK ON USA  at  http://religioustruthsbyiris.freeforums.org/today-is-anniversary-of-muslim-attack-on-usa-t206.html
 
AND, Blood, Blood, and More Blood, the Story of Islam  AT,  http://religioustruthsbyiris89.free-forums.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=
 
AND, Islam The Source Of About 95% Of The Religious Inspired Violence In The World:  AT  http://religioustruths.lefora.com/2013/04/19/islam-the-source-of-about-95-of-the-religious-insp/ 
 
THIRD, Islam claims it is a peaceful religion and they are justified in killing others, but they do not like it when their victims strike back.  In fact, it is it is the standard operating procedure of this evil religion to always try and pin the blame on others for their wicked acts.   No honesty in this evil false religion.
 
FOURTH, Islam claims the right to demand freedom of religion for itself, but tries to absolutely deny that right to others.
 
As can readily be seen, Islam is based on a false concept of how to treat others.
 
Now to know the truth, go to:
 
1) http://religioustruths.forumsland.com/
 
2) http://www.network54.com/Forum/403209/
 
3) http://religioustruths.lefora.com/
 
4) http://religioustruths.boardhost.com/
 
5) http://religious-truths.forums.com/
 
6) http://religioustruthsbyiris.createmybb3.com/
 
7) http://religioustruths.forumotion.com/
 
To enjoy an online Bible study called “Follow the Christ” go to,  http://religious-truths.forums.com/default/digital-book-on-18-part-follow-christ-bible-study-3?replies=6#post-1421
 
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
 
Francis David said it long ago, "Neither the sword of popes...nor the image of death will halt the march of truth. "Francis David, 1579, written on the wall of his prison cell." Read the book, "What Does The Bible Really Teach" and the Bible today, and go to www.jw.org!

 

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5/04/2014 7:59 am  #19


Re: Dissolve Islam and Give The World Some Needed Peace

Islamist Are Out To Undermine Nations And Spread Insecurity – China Is The Latest Target
 
Members of Islam wherever they live, some of them have a love for violence against others of different religions.   Their ultimate goal is to enslave the entire world.   They need to be recognized world wide as the enemy and their evil plan STOPPED.   Islam is NOT a peaceful religion.
 
BEIJING (AP) — Recent deadly attacks in China blamed on Islamic extremists are getting bolder and bloodier, targeting civilians rather than the authorities and further challenging Beijing's ability to stop them.
 
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The latest attack on Wednesday at a train station in the far-western region of Xinjiang — where extremists among the Turkic Uighur Muslim population have been waging a simmering insurgency against Beijing for years — left three people dead and 79 injured, prompting Chinese President Xi Jinping to demand "decisive actions" against terrorism.
 
Authorities said two of the dead were assailants, marking the attack as an apparent suicide bombing that hints at a further escalation in tactics, said Raffaello Pantucci, a terrorism expert at the Royal United Services Institute for Defense and Security Studies in London.
 
Prior to that, in March, five knife-wielding men and women believed to be Uighurs (pronounced WEE'-gurs) slashed at crowds indiscriminately at a railway station in southwestern China, killing 29 people. And last year, three Uighurs rammed a vehicle into crowds in a suicide attack near the Forbidden City gate in the heart of Beijing, killing themselves and two tourists.
 
While these attacks are still relatively crude and bear little sign of specialized training, they seem to have an audaciousness and deliberateness that wasn't present before, said Andrew Small, an expert on China and Central Asia at the German Marshall Fund in Washington, D.C.
 
"The capacity of groups inside China to mount effective, politically targeted attacks does seem to be growing," Small said. "It's a step beyond the sort of localized incidents in western Xinjiang that were taking off a few years ago."
A man and child on a bicycle cycle past by an armored paramilitary police vehicle parked outside a h …
 
Embarrassingly, the latest incident came as Xi wrapped up a four-day trip to the region that included a visit to an anti-terror unit and bold talk from the leader about the need to maintain social stability at all costs. It also came on the eve of the May Day holiday, possibly targeting Xinjiang's growing tourism industry.
 
Pantucci said the fact that the attack took place in a relatively secure major city was also significant.
"The nature of this attack and its location is a further demonstration of the growing intensity of the problems," Pantucci said.
Urumqi was the scene of ethnic riots that killed nearly 200 people in 2009, but has been relatively quiet since.
 
No arrests have been reported and no one has claimed responsibility for the train station attack in the regional capital Urumqi, about 2,500 kilometers (1,550 miles) west of Beijing.
 
Ethnic minority women wait on the street near a cage protecting heavily armed Chinese paramilitary p …
 
For years, militants in Xinjiang have carried out attacks on police and government officials using knives, vehicles and homemade explosives. The extremists want to overthrow Chinese rule while many others want greater autonomy and freedom to practice their culture and religion.
Uighur activists say the violence is being fueled by restrictive and discriminatory policies and practices directed at Uighurs and a sense that the benefits of economic growth have largely accrued to Chinese migrants while excluding Uighurs. The knowledge that Muslims elsewhere are rising up against their governments also seems to be contributing to the increased militancy.
China's response has generally been to crack down ruthlessly on the one hand, while promising economic benefits on the other.
 
The most recent attacks deviate from previous ones in that they are increasingly targeting civilians and attempting violence on a larger scale, apparently pointing to a greater level of organization and planning.
Such attacks are designed to "instill fear by sheer randomness" and provoke retaliation from Beijing that would boost resentment among Uighurs and further support for the extremists, said Ahmed A.S. Hashim, a terrorism expert at Singapore's Nanyang Technical University.
 
Uighur children play near a cage protecting heavily armed Chinese paramilitary policemen on duty in  …
 
China's ability to gather useful intelligence and analyze it to prevent attacks has long been criticized as weak, Hashim said, adding that security forces also lacked effectiveness.
 
"A purely military counterinsurgency or counter-terrorism campaign may not suffice if movement isn't made on the political front to assuage Uighur political demands," Hashim said.
 
It isn't clear whether the recent incidents of violence are being directed by some sort of larger organization, as Beijing frequently alleges. China has blamed numerous incidents on overseas-based separatist radicals in the East Turkistan Islamic Organization, although it has presented little evidence.
"The big unknown is whether there is now a higher level of coordination taking place, or whether these are just individual groups employing similar methods," Small said.
 
Hashim said he expects to see a further evolution of the Uighur insurgency, possibly into a more sophisticated form that would include the use of improvised explosive devices, car bombs, ambushes and major attacks on infrastructure.
Uighur men rest from shoveling dirt near an Chinese paramilitary police armored personnel carrier on …
 
The point, he said, would be to "undermine China's showcasing of Xinjiang as a developing region where different ethnic groups live in harmony."
A further concern for Beijing is the effect the U.S. withdrawal from neighboring Afghanistan will have on Xinjiang's security.
 
Instability in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where some Uighurs are reportedly hiding among jihadi groups in the lawless northwest, could allow insurgents greater freedom to set up camps and cross the border into China, Small said.
Government adviser and anti-terrorism researcher Li Wei agreed that change and instability in the fragile states along China's periphery had a direct effect on Xinjiang's security.
 
"Due to changes in the domestic and international situations, terrorists are becoming more rampant in some western Asian regions and some neighboring countries. Therefore, the anti-terror situation becomes increasingly serious in China," Li said.  [source - retrieved from   http://news.yahoo.com/attacks-show-bolder-terror-threat-growing-china-051359802.html  on  5/3/2014]

 

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5/05/2014 7:04 am  #20


Re: Dissolve Islam and Give The World Some Needed Peace

Learn reality about regular and Muslim society - both are breaking down.
 
CLEARLY EVERYWHERE SOCIETY IS BREAKING DOWN, WESTERN SOCIETY IS NO
EXCEPTION, BUT ISLAMIC SOCIETY IS FAR AHEAD OF IT WITH RESPECT MORAL BREAKDOWN.
 
INTRODUCTION:
 
Should we be surprised by this breakdown of morals everywhere?  No!  The Bible foretold this over 1,900 years ago as follows:  “Know also this, that in the last days shall come dangerous times.  2 Timothy 3:1
(Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible: DRCB)
 
It is good to note that Paul introduced the prophecy about the last days with the expression, ‘know…this.’  Those words guarantee that what follows is certain to occur.  There is no doubt that ungodly society will continue to advance from bad to worse until Almighty God (YHWH) steps in to end it.  Historians have documented that here or there some society or nation experienced a steep moral decline and then collapsed.  Never before in history, though, has the overall morality of the entire world deteriorated to the extent that is has now.  Many people may ignore the implications, but this unique development since 1914 should clearly demonstrate to us that we can
trust that Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) Kingdom will soon take decisive action.
 
YES THE MORALS IN THE U.K., USA, RUSSIA ARE GETTING WORSE, BUT THE MORALS OF MANY MUSLIMS ARE EVEN WORSE:
 
Many members of Islam point to the breakdown of morals in the west, but conveniently ignore that their own society’s morals broke down starting with the founding of Islam in the 7 th. Century, and the fact, that their founder, the false prophet, Muhammad, was a pedophile and rabid sexual pervert, and also a very vicious person.  For details, go to, Appendix 1 and 2.  In fact, a Muslim political active Muslim women, Salwa al-Mutairi, even testified to  the fact of the unconscionable wrong sex drive of many Muslim men, when she said, ‘“that extra "virile" men—Western synonyms include "sex-crazed," "lecherous," "perverted"—would do well to purchase sex-slaves to sate their appetites without sinning.”  For more details on this, go to Appendix 3.
 
This shows a moral breakdown in the Muslim world worse than anything in the western world which some members of Islam are always criticizing.  Worse yet, many in Islam sexually mutilate little girls and practice honour killings.  For details, go to Appendix 4.
 
APPENDIX 1, MUHAMMAD WAS A SEX PERVERT – SEE THE PROOF to to 2 nd. Post at  http://religioustruthsbyiris.freeforums.org/reader-s-digest-of-1-2013-exposes-pedophiles-as-still-being-t173.html 
 
APPENDIX 2, MUHAMMAD A BRUTAL MAN WORSE THAN ADOLPH HITLER – KNOW THE TRUTH go to 9 th. Post down at  http://religioustruthsbyiris.freeforums.org/dissolve-islam-and-give-the-world-some-needed-peace-t193.html
 
APPENDIX 3, Muslim Woman Seeks to Revive Institution of Sex-Slaver
Go to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2732655/posts on 
 
Or
 
Front Page ^ | June 6 2011 | Raymond Ibrahim
Posted on 6/10/2011 1:52:47 AM by Ethan Clive Osgoode
 
APPENDIX 4, go to http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/magazine/20circumcision-t.html?_r=0

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