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[1]       SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 802A]
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. Revelation 21:3 – 5, [authorized King James Bible; AV]  These scriptures show Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) plans for the future, and unlike earthly man, He surely carry them out. As stated at Ezekiel 37:27, [AV] “My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” This leaves the question of who will abide in this righteous new world, and this is answered at Psalms 15:1 – 2, [AV] “LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill? 2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.” And Ezekiel 43:7, [AV] “And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places.” And in this righteous kingdom of His per Isaiah 65:19, [AV] “And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.” TO LEARN MORE ABOUT RELIGION AND THE BIBLE, GO TO, 

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[2]   DISCOURSE ON RESEARCH PRODUCT ON THE PLURAL OF MAJESTY: 

INTRODUCTION:

Many when they see God's (YHWH's) name or title in the plural believe that this refers to more than one as in ignorance they do NOT know that the plural form was used in many ancient middle eastern languages to also designate majesty.   When so used as the plural of majesty, it always refers to a singular personage or being and never to what in modern languages would be a plural of personage or being.  For example, the Hebrew word for "God" is 'elohim' (occurs 2700 times) - a plural noun always joined to singular verbs; to be noted here, it is always joined to singular verbs as the plural of majesty strictly refers to a single personage or being, and NOT to multiple personages or beings.

THE RESEARCH PROOFS:

Now let's look at what some books on language and encyclopedias say on the matter:

The American Journal of Semitic Languages and Literatures, Vol. XXI, Chicago and New York, 1905:  Titles and Descriptive Terms Applying to Jehovah:  GOD. Heb., ´Elo·him', without the definite article. In The American Journal of Semitic Languages and Literatures, Vol. XXI, Chicago and New York, 1905, p. 208, Aaron Ember wrote: "That the language of the O[ld] T[estament] has entirely given up the idea of plurality in ????? [´Elo·him'] (as applied to the God of Israel) is especially shown by the fact that it is almost invariably construed with a singular verbal predicate, and takes a singular adjectival attribute. . . . ????? [´Elo·him'] must rather be explained as an intensive plural, denoting greatness and majesty, being equal to The Great God. It ranks with the plurals ????? [´adho·nim', "master"] and ????? [be`a·lim', "owner; lord"], employed with reference to human beings." ´Elo·him' draws attention to Jehovah's strength as the Creator and occurs 35 times in the creation account.-Ge 1:1-2:4.

Insights, Volume I says under, it-1 968-9  God:
Anything that is worshiped can be termed a god, inasmuch as the worshiper attributes to it might greater than his own and venerates it. A person can even let his belly be a god. (Ro 16:18; Php 3:18, 19) The Bible makes mention of many gods (Ps 86:8; 1Co 8:5, 6), but it shows that the gods of the nations are valueless gods.-Ps 96:5; see GODS AND GODDESSES.

Hebrew Terms. Among the Hebrew words that are translated "God" is ´El, probably meaning "Mighty One; Strong One." (Ge 14:18) It is used with reference to Jehovah, to other gods, and to men. It is also used extensively in the makeup of proper names, such as Elisha (meaning "God Is Salvation") and Michael ("Who Is Like God?"). In some places ´El appears with the definite article (ha·´El', literally, "the God") with reference to Jehovah, thereby distinguishing him from other gods.-Ge 46:3; 2Sa 22:31; see NW appendix, p. 1567.
At Isaiah 9:6 Jesus Christ is prophetically called ´El Gib·bohr', "Mighty God" (not ´El Shad·dai' [God Almighty], which is applied to Jehovah at Genesis 17:1).
The plural form, ´e·lim', is used when referring to other gods, such as at Exodus 15:11 ("gods"). It is also used as the plural of majesty and excellence, as in Psalm 89:6: "Who can resemble Jehovah among the sons of God [bi·beneh' ´E·lim']?" That the plural form is used to denote a single individual here and in a number of other places is supported by the translation of ´E·lim' by the singular form The·os' in the Greek Septuagint; likewise by Deus in the Latin Vulgate.
The Hebrew word ´elo·him' (gods) appears to be from a root meaning "be strong." ´Elo·him' is the plural of ´eloh'ah (god). Sometimes this plural refers to a number of gods (Ge 31:30, 32; 35:2), but more often it is used as a plural of majesty, dignity, or excellence. ´Elo·him' is used in the Scriptures with reference to Jehovah himself, to angels, to idol gods (singular and plural), and to men.

The American Journal of Semitic Languages and Literatures, Vol. XXI, 1905, p. 208.
When applying to Jehovah, ´Elo·him' is used as a plural of majesty, dignity, or excellence. (Ge 1:1) Regarding this, Aaron Ember wrote: "That the language of the O[ld] T[estament] has entirely given up the idea of plurality in . . . [´Elo·him'] (as applied to the God of Israel) is especially shown by the fact that it is almost invariably construed with a singular verbal predicate, and takes a singular adjectival attribute. . . . [´Elo·him'] must rather be explained as an intensive plural, denoting greatness and majesty, being equal to The Great God."-The American Journal of Semitic Languages and Literatures, Vol. XXI, 1905, p. 208.

Insights, Volume I I The title ´Elo·him' draws attention to Jehovah's strength as the Creator. It appears 35 times by itself in the account of creation, and every time the verb describing what he said and did is in the singular number. (Ge 1:1-2:4) In him resides the sum and substance of infinite forces.

Lexicon in Veteris Testamenti Libros, by Koehler and Baumgartner (1958), page 134A: t Psalm 8:5, the angels are also referred to as ´elo·him', as is confirmed by Paul's quotation of the passage at Hebrews 2:6-8. They are called beneh' ha·´Elo·him', "sons of God" (KJ); "sons of the true God" (NW), at Genesis 6:2, 4; Job 1:6; 2:1. Lexicon in Veteris Testamenti Libros, by Koehler and Baumgartner (1958), page 134, says: "(individual) divine beings, gods." And page 51 says: "the (single) gods," and it cites Genesis 6:2; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Hence, at Psalm 8:5 ´elo·him' is rendered "angels" (LXX); "godlike ones" (NW).

Insights, Volume II:  The word ´elo·him' is also used when referring to idol gods. Sometimes this plural form means simply "gods." (Ex 12:12; 20:23) At other times it is the plural of excellence and only one god (or goddess) is referred to. However, these gods were clearly not trinities.-1Sa 5:7b (Dagon); 1Ki 11:5 ("goddess" Ashtoreth); Da 1:2b (Marduk).

Lexicon Hebraicum Veteris Testamenti, Rome, 1984, p. 54; At Psalm 82:1, 6, ´elo·him' is used of men, human judges in Israel. Jesus quoted from this Psalm at John 10:34, 35. They were gods in their capacity as representatives of and spokesmen for Jehovah. Similarly Moses was told that he was to serve as "God" to Aaron and to Pharaoh.-Ex 4:16, ftn; ?Ex ?7:1.

In many places in the Scriptures ´Elo·him' is also found preceded by the definite article ha. (Ge 5:22) Concerning the use of ha·´Elo·him', F. Zorell says: "In the Holy Scriptures especially the one true God, Jahve, is designated by this word; . . . 'Jahve is the [one true] God' De 4:35; 4:39; Jos 22:34; 2Sa 7:28; 1Ki 8:60 etc."-Lexicon Hebraicum Veteris Testamenti, Rome, 1984, p. 54; brackets his.

Insights, Volume II: it-2 441  Most High
Topmost as to place, or position. The Hebrew word `el·yohn', used with reference to Jehovah as "Most High," is also applied to other persons or things: The Messianic King, the Greater David, as above the other earthly kings (Ps 89:20, 27), the place above the nations promised to Israel (De 26:18, 19), the topmost basket (Ge 40:17), the upper gate (2Ki 15:35), the upper pool (2Ki 18:17), the upper courtyard (Jer 36:10), the uppermost story (Eze 41:7), the uppermost dining rooms (Eze 42:5), Upper Beth-horon (Jos 16:5), and the upper source of the waters of Gihon (2Ch 32:30). These uses illustrate that `el·yohn' denotes position rather than power.

When applied to Jehovah, "Most High" emphasizes his supreme position above all others. (Ps 83:18) The title first appears at Genesis 14:18-20 with ´El (God), where Melchizedek is called "priest of the Most High God" and, in that capacity, blesses Abraham as well as the Most High God. "Most High" is used in combination with the divine name Jehovah (Ge 14:22; Ps 7:17) and with the plural of excellence ´Elo·him' (God) (Ps 78:56), and it also appears alone.-De 32:8; Ps 9:2; Isa 14:14.
The plural Aramaic form `el·yoh·nin' occurs at Daniel 7:18, 22, 25, 27, where it may be translated "Supreme One" (NW), the plural being the plural of excellence, majesty. The Aramaic form in the singular number, `il·lai' (Most High), is used at Daniel 7:25.

The Greek word hy'psi·stos (Most High), as applying to Jehovah, is employed mainly by Luke, in his Gospel (twice in Gabriel's announcement to Mary about the birth of Jesus) and in the Acts. (Lu 1:32, 35, 76; 6:35; 8:28; Ac 7:48; 16:17) The other occurrences are at Mark 5:7 and Hebrews 7:1.

CONCLUSION:

So it is quite clear that anyone making claims that the plural as here used as the plural of majesty and claiming its use supports a Duality or a Trinity really does not have a grasp of what he or she is talking about since in reality it is ALWAYS singular with respect personage or being.   Therefore, NOT only does it not support a Duality or a Trinity, it clearly shows when one understands the plural of majesty in a Semitic Languages that such could NOT possible be the case.   This can be readily discerned by a quick cursory observation that the plural of majesty always caries a singular verb or adjective and not a plural one.


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COMBINATION OF [1]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2]  DISCOURSE ON THE ANTICHRIST OF THE SCRIPTURES:
 


[1]       SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 804A]

And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.  10  As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.   Galatians 6:9 – 10, (Authorized King James Bible; AV)

But we must be on guard against evil men as warned at 2 Timothy 3:13, [AV] “But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.”
And be obedient followers of Jesus (Yeshua) per Hebrews 3:14, [AV] “For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;”  And as the4 Apostle John wrote at John 9:4 = 5, [AV] “I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.  5  As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”  Jesus must be doing the works of his father.  So clearly if we are believers in Christ we are per Ephesians 2:19 – 20, “Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;  20  And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;” 

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[2]   DISCOURSE ON THE ANTICHRIST OF THE SCRIPTURES:

INTRODUCTION:

To start out it is important to understand the Antichrist is not one in number, but many as clearly revealed by 1 John 2:18, "Little children, it is the last hour: and as you have heard that Antichrist cometh, even now there are become many Antichrists: whereby we know that it is the last hour." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible; DRCB).  It is not one individual or organization, but many that make up the composite body of the Antichrists.  Some in error point to this individual or another and claim he/she is the Antichrist, but in reality is plural or many.  Some claim the Antichrist is the Pope, or Osama bin Ladin, or some other indivudual, but no matter how bad, no one individual is the Antichrists.

Truly the Antichrists is all who are not really on the side of God (YHWH) and his only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua) who is the Messiah.  This fact is made clear at Luke 11:23, "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth." (DRCB); And at Matthew 7:21-24, "Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity. 24 Every one therefore that heareth these my words, and doth them, shall be likened to a wise man that built his house upon a rock," (DRCB).  So now we know the Antichrists are all those not really on the side of God (YHWH), and any identifying the Antichrists with one individual are in error as it applies to an entire class of individuals.

IDENTIFIED AS THOSE DENYING THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE THE ANTICHRISTS:

Clearly the scriptures identify those denying the Father (YHWH) and the Son, Jesus (Yeshua) make up the class known as the Antichrists in the scriptures.  This class puts forth the sayings of man as more pertinent or taking precedence over scripture.  This is made quite clear at 1 John 2:21-23, "I have not written to you as to them that know not the truth, but as to them that know it: and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father. He that confesseth the Son hath the Father also." (DRCB); And at John 15:20-23, "Remember my word that I said to you: The servant is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they have kept my word, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things they will do to you for my name's sake: because they know not him that sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin: but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also." (DRCB).  So clearly the Antichrists is made up of a class denying the Father (YHWH) and the Son, Jesus (Yeshua), as two distinct beings in heaven.

THE ANITCHRIST IS THE CLASS DENYING THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD:

All those doing this are clearly liars as shown by 1 John 2:22, previously quoted; and by John 8:38-49, "I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and you do the things that you have seen with your father. 39 They answered and said to him: Abraham is our father. Jesus saith them: If you be the children of Abraham, do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill me, a man who have spoken the truth to you, which I have heard of God. This Abraham did not. 41 You do the works of your father. They said therefore to him: We are not born of fornication: we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus therefore said to them: If God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded and came. For I came not of myself: but he sent me. 43 Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil: and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning: and he stood not in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. 45 But if I say the truth, you believe me not. 46 Which of you shall convince me of sin? If I say the truth to you, why do you not believe me: 47 He that is of God heareth the words of God. Therefore you hear them not, because you are not of God. 48 The Jews therefore answered and said to him: Do not we say well that thou art a Samaritan and hast a devil? 49 Jesus answered: I have not a devil: but I honour my Father. And you have dishonoured me." (DRCB).  Here Jesus (Yeshua) identified the Antichrist as those doing the works of Satan the Devil; And at John 9:22, "These things his parents said, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had already agreed among themselves that if any man should confess him to be Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue." (DRCB); clearly once more showing that many are mislead into believing they are doing the works of God (YHWH) when in reality they are doing Satan's works and hence are a part of the class known as the Antichrists.

Many of this class go so far as to even deny that Jesus (Yeshua)ever came to the earth as a perfect man of flesh, yet the scriptures make this fact clear at 1 John 4:1-3, "Dearly beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 By this is the spirit of God known. Every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God. And this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh: and he is now already in the world." (DRCB); And at 2 John 7-13 a warning is given that all should pay heed to, "Dearly beloved, let us love one another: for charity is of God. And every one that loveth is born of God and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God: for God is charity. 9 By this hath the charity of God appeared towards us, because God hath sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we may live by him. 10 In this is charity: not as though we had loved God, but because he hath first loved us, and sent his Son to be a propitiation for our sins. 11 My dearest, if God hath so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abideth in us: and his charity is perfected in us. 13 In this we know that we abide in him, and he in us: because he hath given us of his spirit." (DRCB).

DEVIATION FROM TRUE RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES MARK ONE AS PART OF CLASS:

These are the ones who count man's word of greater precedent than the word of God (YHWH) saying such things there are things NOT in the Bible that constitute true Christianity or Christian practices not wanting to realize that if the Bible does not say it, it counts for nothing with God (YHWH).  However, Matthew 24:23-26 clearly shows, "Then if any man shall say to you, Lo here is Christ, or there: do not believe him. 24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. 25 Behold I have told it to you, beforehand. 26 If therefore they shall say to you, Behold he is in the desert: go ye not out. Behold he is in the closets: believe it not." (DRCB); And at Matthew 24:4-5, "And Jesus answering, said to them: Take heed that no man seduce you. 5 For many will come in my name saying, I am Christ. And they will seduce many." (DRCB).

In addition, false prophets will arise as foretold at 1 John 4:1-4, "Dearly beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 By this is the spirit of God known. Every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God. And this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh: and he is now already in the world.
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome him. Because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world." (DRCB); And at Matthew 7:12-15, "12 All things therefore whatsoever you would that men should do to you, do you also to them. For this is the law and the prophets. 13 Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. 14 How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!  15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." (DRCB);

And at Acts 13:6-10, "And when they had gone through the whole island, as far as Paphos, they found a certain man, a magician, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Bar-Jesu: 7 Who was with the proconsul Sergius Paulus, a prudent man. He, sending for Barnabas and Saul, desired to hear the word of God. 8 But Elymas the magician (for so his name is interpreted) withstood them, seeking to turn away the proconsul from the faith. 9 Then Saul, otherwise Paul, filled with the Holy Ghost, looking upon him, 10 Said: O full of all guile and of all deceit, child of the devil, enemy of all justice, thou ceases not to pervert the right ways of the Lord." (DRCB).

THE CLASS KNOWN AS THE ANTICHRIST PERSECUTE TRUE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS (YESHUA) CHRIST:

This was clearly foretold at Luke 21:12, "12  But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and into prisons, dragging you before kings and governors, for my name's sake." (DRCB); And at Matthew 25:40 & 45, "And answering the king will say to them, 'Amen I say to you, as long as you did it for one of these, the least of my brethren, you did it for me.'" (DRCB) and "Then he will answer them, saying, 'Amen I say to you, as long as you did not do it for one of these least ones, you did not do it for me.'" (DRCB); And at Acts 9:1-6 "And Saul, as yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest 2 And asked of him letters to Damascus, to the synagogues: that if he found any men and women of this way, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem. 3 And as he went on his journey, it came to pass that he drew nigh to Damascus. And suddenly a light from heaven shined round about him. 4 And falling on the ground, he heard a voice saying to him: Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5 Who said: Who art thou, Lord? And he: I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. It is hard for thee to kick against the goad. 6 And he, trembling and astonished, said: Lord, what wilt thou have me to do?" (DRCB); And at Revelation 17:5-6, "And on her forehead a name was written: A mystery: Babylon the great, the mother of the fornications and the abominations of the earth. 6 And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And I wondered, when I had seen her, with great admiration." (DRCB); Matthew 24:48-51, "But if that evil servant shall say in his heart: My lord is long a coming: 49 And shall begin to strike his fellow servants and shall eat and drink with drunkards: 50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day that he hopeth not and at an hour that he knoweth not: 51 And shall separate him and appoint his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (DRCB).

Like wise this class, Antichrists, oppose Jesus (Yeshua) Christ's kingdom authority given to him as 1 Corinthians 15:20-28 as shown by Psalms 2:1-2, "Why have the Gentiles raged, and the people devised vain things? 2 The kings of the earth stood up, and the princes met together, against the Lord, and against his Christ." (DRCB); And at Revelation 19:19-21, "And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies, gathered together to make war with him that sat upon the horse and with his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet who wrought signs before him, wherewith he seduced them who received the character of the beast and who adored his image. These two were cast alive into the pool of fire burning with brimstone." (DRCB).

HOWEVER, THE ANTICHRIST IS TO BE DESTROYED FOREVER-SHORTLY:

This is revealed at 1 John 4:1-5, "Dearly beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 By this is the spirit of God known. Every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God. And this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh: and he is now already in the world.  4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome him. Because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world. Therefore of the world they speak: and the world heareth them." (DRCB); And at

2 Peter 2:1, "But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be among you lying teachers who shall bring in sects of perdition and deny the Lord who bought them: bringing upon themselves swift destruction." (DRCB); And at Matthew 25:31 & 46, "But when the Son of Man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory;" (DRCB) and "And these will go into everlasting punishment, but the just into everlasting life." (DRCB). 

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON THE END TIMES AND GOD'S (YHWH'S) DEFEAT OF GOG OF MAGOG:  [1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 806A] For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. Galatians 5:13, (Authorized King James Bible; AV) And as pointed out at Galatians 5:14, [AV] “For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.” Whereas, John 8:34 – 36, [AV] “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” TO LEARN MORE ABOUT RELIGION AND THE BIBLE, GO TO,  1) http://iris89.conforums.com/  2) http://www.network54.com/Forum/403209/  3) http://religioustruths.lefora.com/  4) http://religioustruths.boardhost.com/  5) http://religioustruths.forumsland.com/  6) http://religioustruthsbyiris.createmybb3.com/  7) http://religioustruths.forumotion.com/  To enjoy an online Bible study called “Follow the Christ” go to,http://www.network54.com/Forum/403209/thread/1417398076/last-1417398076/Digital+Book+On+18+Part+Follow+Christ+Bible+Study  Your Friend in Christ Iris89  Francis David said it long ago, "Neither the sword of popes...nor the image of death will halt the march of truth. 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Read the book, "What Does The Bible Really Teach" and the Bible today, and go to WWW.JW.ORG! [2] DISCOURSE ON THE END TIMES AND GOD'S (YHWH'S) DEFEAT OF GOG OF MAGOG: This discourse deals with how God's (YHWH's) people will be able to stand still and see the defeat of the forces of Satan the Devil, the daemons, defeated by the forces of God (YHWH) at the End Times, and what will occur then and immediately prior to that time. In ancient times an event occurred that prefigured how it will be for God's (YHWH's) people in the end times with respect to the battle that will take place as shown by 2 Chronicles 20:15-17, "And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, ant thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the Lord unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not your's, but God's. 16 To morrow go ye down against them: behold, they come up by the cliff of Ziz; and ye shall find them at the end of the brook, before the wilderness of Jeruel. 17 Ye shall not need to fight in this battle; set yourselves, stand ye still, and see the salvation of the Lord with you, O Judah and Jerusalem: fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them: for the Lord will be with you." (Authorized King James Bible; AV). Today many are very worried about terrorism, but while such a threat must be taken seriously, the war of Almighty God (YHWH) against the forces of the Gog of Magog, Satan the Devil, has far greater consequences. The world community gives little or no attention to this however. In the Bible, Ezekiel speaks of this attack in Ezekiel chapter 38. It is not an exaggeration to say that this attack will have much greater consequences than is the threat of international terrorism. Gog's attack goes beyond an assault on some human government; it is a strike against the heavenly government of God (YHWH)! Yet, unlike humans, who may have only limited success in coping with assaults on their system, the Creator (YHWH) is fully capable of dealing with Gog's more vicious attack. Resistance to the rule by God's (YHWH's) kingdom will clearly reach its climax during the attack by the Gog of Magog. And Ezekiel 38:1-4 states, "And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tybal, and prophesy against him, 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4 And I will turn thee back and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:" (AV). True Christians may wonder how humans can fight against this invisible, government of Satan the Devil, the Gog of Magog. However, the resurrected Jesus (Yeshua) who sits at the right hand of his Father (YHWH) has a heavenly government of his own made up of the hundred and and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth per Revelation 14:1, "And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads." (AV); And this is also testified to at John 1:29, "The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." (AV). Being heavenly, the new government under the King Jesus (Yeshua) is spoken of as the "new heavens," whereas its earthly subjects are logically called "a new earth," as testified to at Isaiah 65:17, "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind." (AV); and at 2 Peter 3:13, "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness." (AV). In fact, most of these 144,000 corulers with Jesus (Yeshua) have already joined him in heaven after being chosen as worthy by his Father (YHWH) as shown at Revelation 7:14, "And I said unto him, Sir thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." (AV); And at Revelation 17:14, "These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful." (AV). God (YHWH) reaction to the opposition to the establishment of his kingdom was foretold at Psalm 2:4-6, "He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. 5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. 6 Yet Have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion." (AV). The time, end times, will arrive for Jesus (Yeshua), under his Father's (YHWH's) direction to, Revelation 6:2, "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow: and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." (AV). Jesus (Yeshua) will still have a great following on earth in addition to those 144,000 his Father (YHWH) has selected to rule with him as co rulers in heaven. This is testified to at Revelation 7:9-10, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb." (AV). These ones will be the ruled under this new kingdom. Thus these have an approved standing before God (YHWH) and Christ Jesus (Yeshua). Carrying "palm branches in their hands," they hail Yehovah (YHWH) as the rightful Sovereign of the universe, whose rulership is expressed through the reign of his enthroned King, Jesus (Yeshua) Christ, see John 1:29, "The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." (AV); And at John 1:36, "And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!" (AV). Gog's attack will cause God's enthroned King to take action and wage the war of Armageddon as recorded at Revelation 16:14-16, "And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and jupon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped." (AV). Those who have refused to acknowledge God's (YHWH's) sovereignty will suffer destruction. Thoise who have endured tribulation for their loyalty to God's (YHWH's) Kingdom, on the other hand, will experience permanent relief. This was recorded by the Apostle Paul at 2 Thessalonians 1:5-8, "Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: 6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ." (AV). During this end time uncoming great tribulation, ending in Armageddon, Jesus (Yeshua) Christ will wage war against all evil. But there will be no need for his followers to fight, just as it was unnecessary for the inhabitants of the two-tribe kingdom of Judah thousands of years ago to do so. The battle belongs to God (YHWH), and he gave the victory. This is as recorded as 2 Chronicles 20:22-24, "And when they began to sing and to praise, the Lord set ambushments against the children of Ammon, Moab, and mount Seir, which were come against Judah; and they were smitten. 23 For the children of Ammon and Moab stood up against the inhabitants of mount Seir, utterly to slay and destroy them: and when they had made an end of the inhabitants of Seir, every one helped to destroy another. 24 And when Judah came toward the watch tower in the wilderness, they looked unto the multitude, and, behold, they were dead bodies fallen to the earth, and none escaped." (AV). And it was exactly as God (YHWH) had foretold at 2 Chronicles 20:17, "Ye shall not need to fight in this battle; set yourselves, stand ye still, and see the salvation of the Lord with you, O Judah and Jerusalem: fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them: for the Lord will be with you." (AV). This example set the pattern for true Christians to follow when Jesus (Yeshua) moves in, Romans 6:13, "Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God." (AV); And, Romans 12:17-21, "Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much a lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good." (AV); And, Romans 13:12, "Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation." (AV); And 2 Corinthians 10:3-5, "For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh; 4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ." (AV). As can be seen, these scriptures set the pattern for true Christians to follow at the end times when Jesus (Yeshua) Christ moves in to complete his conquest. Gog of Magog, who is identified as Satan the Devil, will lead the attack, but not directly against true Christians as he is a spirit creature who can not carry out attacks on humans directly. He, Gog of Magog, will use human agencies to do this. The Bible does not detail exactly who these will be, but gives us some indications to help us identify these agencies. Thus, as world events unfold in fulfillment of Bible prophecies, we will gradually have a clearer picture. Therefore, all true Christians must remain spiritually alert, fully aware of political and religious developments that fit into the framework of this Bible fulfillment of prophecy. However, the prophet Daniel does shed some light on this final attack against God's (YHWH's) people at Daniel 11:44-45, "But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. 45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him." (AV). In Bible context, Psalms 2:6, "Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion." (AV); And, Joshua 1:4, "From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast." (AV). Here the great sea was the Mediterranean, and the holy mountain was Zion, God's (YHWH's) chosen people at that time. Thus, in a spiritual sense, the land between the great sea and the holy mountain represents the prosperous spiritual estate of anointed true Christians as they are no longer identified with the sea of humanity alienated from God. They are looking forward to direct rule by Christ Jesus (Yeshua) and his co rulers in heaven. They will be the target of the Gog of Magog. This will be a fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy, Isaiah 57:20, "But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt." (AV); And, Hebrews 12:22, "Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." (AV); And, Revelation 14:1, earlier quoted in this discourse. Now let's consider how true Christians will react in the end times when the Gog of Magog launches his final attack. They will (1) take their position, (2) they will stand still, and (3) they will see their salvation by God (YHWH). Each of these will be separately dealt with. Take their position = True Christians, being God's (YHWH's) people today, will continue to actively support God's (YHWH's) kingdom. In other words, they will be steadfast, unmovable in loyally supporting God (YHWH) and telling others about his loving kindness as shown at 1 Corinthians 15:58, "Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast and immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible); And, Psalm 118:28-29, "You are my Divine One, and I shall laud you; My God-Ishall exalt you." (New World Translation; NWT). Thus no present or future tribulation can shake them from this divinely approved position. They will stand still = God's (YHWH's) servants will not seek to save themselves, but will put their trust in God (YHWH) to save them. He is the only one capable of rescuing his servants out of the doomed chaotic world of the end times. This is shown at Isaiah 43:10-11, "You are My witnesses, declares the Lord, 'And My servant whom I have chosen, In order that you may know and believe Me, And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me. 11 I, even I, am the Lord; And there is no savior besides Me." (New American Standard Bible; NASB); And Isaiah 54:15, "If anyone does attack you, it will not be my doing; whoever attacks you will surrender to you." (New International Version; NIV); And, Lamentations 3:26, "It is good that one should wait quietly for the salvation of the Lord." (Revised Standard Version, RSV). In fact, in the end times true Christians will need to place their confidence in fellow worshipers authorized by God (YHWH), as shown at Matthew 24:45-47, "Who, dost thou think, is the faithful and prudent servant whom his master has set over his household to give them their food in due time? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, shall find so doing. 47 Amen I say to you, he will set him over all his goods." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible); And Hebrews 13:7, "Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as your contemplate how [their] conduct turns out imitate [their]faith." (NWT); And Hebrews 13:17, "Obey your leaders and submit to them; for they are keeping watch over your souls, as men who will have to give account. Let them do this joyfully, and not sadly, for that would be of no advantage to you." (RSV). They will see their salvation by God (YHWH) = Salvation will be the reward for all who hold fast their position of true Christian integrity and who put their trust in God (YHWH) for deliverance. Until the final hour of the end times, they will continue to announce the arrival of the end times, God's (YHWH's) judgment day. It is imperative that all creation know about the true God (YHWH) and his faithful servants. This will be the last prolonged controversy over God's (YHWH's) rightful sovereignty as pointed out at Ezekiel 33:33, "And when that which was foretold shall come to pass, (for behold it is coming,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible); And Ezekiel 36:23, "'And I shall certainly sanctify my great name, which was being profaned among the nations, which you profaned in the midst of them; and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah,' is the utterance of the Sovereigh Lord Jehovah, 'when I am sanctified among you before their eyes." (NWT). Thus, true Christians, God's (YHWH's) people, will with renewed energy enter in to God's (YHWH's) new world with eagerness to sing a victory song, even as did the Isralites of old after their deliverance through the Red Sea. They will be forever grateful to God (YHWH) for their deliverance by his Son, Jesus (Yeshua).This is confirmed at Exodus 15:1-19, "Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the Lord, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the Lord for he hath triumphed gloriously: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea. 2 The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him. 3 The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name. 4 Pharoh's chariots and his host hath he cast into the sea; his chosen captains also are drowned in the Red sea. 5 ... 6 Thy right hand, O Lord, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O Lord, hath dashed in pieces the enemy. 7 And in the greatness of thine excellency thou hast over thrown them that rose up against thee; thou sentest forth thy wrath, which consumed them as stubble. 8 And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea. 9 The enemy said, I will pursue, I will overtake, I will divide the spoil; my lust shall be satisfied upon them; I will draw my sword, my hand shall destroy them. 10 Thou didst blow with thy wind, the sea covered them: they sank as lead in mighty waters. 11 Who is like unto thee, O Lord, among the gods? Who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders? 12 Thou stretchedst out thy right hand, the earth swallowed them. 13 Thou in thy merch hast led forth the people which thou hast redeemed: thou hast guided them in thy strength unto thy holy habitation. 14 The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina. 15 Then the dukes of Edom shall be amazed: the mighty men of Moab, trembling shall take hold upon them; all the inhabitants of Canan shall melt away. 16 Fear and dread shall fall upon them; by the greatness of thine arm they shall be as still as a stone; tell thy people pass over, O Lord, till the people pass over, which thou hast purchased. 17 Thou shalt bring them in, and plant them in the mountain of thine inheritance, in the place, O Lord, which thou hast made for thee to dwell in, in the Sanctuary, O Lord, which thy hands have established. 18 The Lord shall reign for ever and ever. 19 For the horse of Pharoh went in with his chariots and with horsemen into the sea, and the Lor4d brought again the waters of the sea upon them; but the children of Israel went on dry land in the midst of the sea." (AV). So now with prospect of everlasting life for true Christians ever brighter as the end times draws near, this is a grand time for all of God's (YHWH's) servants to demonstrate their devotion to him, as shown at 1 Chronicles 29:11-13, "Yours, O Jehovah [[YHWH]], are the greatness and the mightiness and the beauty and the excellency and the dignity; for everything in the heavens and in the earth is [yours]. Yours is the kingdom, O Jehovah, the One also lifting yourself up as head over all. 12 The richest and the glory are on account of you, and you are dominating everything; and in your hand there are power and mightiness, and in your hand is [ability] to make great and to give strength to all. 13 And now O our God, we are thanking you and praising your beauteous name." (NWT) [[Notes: (1) Various Bibles have been quoted from in order to show they all contain these truths. 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COMBINATION OF [1]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2]  DISCOURSE ON THE GREAT DECEIT: 


[1]       SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 807A]

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?  2  This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?3  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?  Galatians 3:1 – 3, (Authorized King James Bible; AV)

Clearly only faith in Jesus (Yeshua) counts as clearly shown in Galatians 5:7, [AV] “For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.  7  Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?”  And 1 Corinthians 1:23, [AV] “But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;  24  But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.  25  Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.” 

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[2]   DISCOURSE ON THE GREAT DECEIT:

Today con men are very much in the news and deceit is being practiced by many; however, con jobs and deceit are nothing new.  The greatest deceit of all history, however, was the slipping into so called Christianity of a pagan God dishonoring doctrine by a worshipper of the Unconquered Sun, one Emperor Constantine, with the tacit approval of many bishops of an apostate church that was seeking to become 'respectable' with its pagan neighbors.  This occurred in 325 AD at the Council of Nicea. 

Why was this pagan Emperor so concerned with getting this God dishonoring doctrine into the so called Christian church.  Well let's examine the political situation of the time.  The Roman Empire at this time was being torn apart by religious differences between pagans, mostly Sun God worshippers, and Christianity. Constantine the Emporer was a worshipper of the Unconquered Sun, but he was a very pragmatic individual and saw the need to bring religious unity to his empire.  The central doctrine of the pagans was the dogma of a Trinity that they had received from earlier pagans in Babylon (Chaldea). In this, the pagan Emperor, Constantine, saw a possibility for unifying his empire if he could only lead the majority of the Christians to accept a Trinity or a Duality. He knew however that he had to make them think it was their own idea. To this end, he, the Roman emperor Constantine summoned all bishops to Nicaea, about 300, but even though it was the emperor's direction, only a fraction actually attended.

Let's regress for a moment and see how this all came about.   A feud started within the church between two theologians, Alexander and Arius over theology. All Arius said was that if the Father begat the Son, then the Son must have had a birth, and therefore there was a time when the Son of God did not exist.  But his simple statement of truth by Arius started the greatest theological controversy of all times between the forces for maintaining strict adherence to the Bible and the forces for attachment of personal ideas and compromise.

Inevitably it came to the ears of the emperor, who discussed with Hosius, the saintly bishop of Cordova, what should be done to put an end to the quarrels among the sects. Like James I of England, Constantine regarded unity as "the mother of order," and he was not overmuch concerned with the theological truths at stake: he decided to send Hosius to Nicomedia and Alexandria with a letter written in his own hand, ordering by imperial rescript an end to the quarrel.

The letter-one of the most astonishing letters ever written by an emperor to priests-has come down to us in a version that shows no signs of being edited. It is hot-tempered, querulous, disjointed, and commanding. It is abundantly clear that the emperor is not quite clear in his own mind what the quarrel is about. He observes that "these questions are the idle cobwebs of contention, spun by curious wits," and he asks, "Who is capable of distinguishing such deep and hidden mysteries?" He recognizes that the contestants are well-armed with arguments, but he can make neither head nor tail of them.
[The Holy Fire: The Story of the Early Centuries of the Christian Churches in the Near East" (1957).]

It makes no difference to Emperor Constantine that, "In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word trias (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch, about A.D. 180. He speaks of "the Trinity of God [the Father], His Word and His Wisdom ("Ad. Autol.", II, 15).  [The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XV]

His concern is to unite his empire religiously so that he has unity. This council went on for a very long time and the emperor worked behind the scene to get support for a Trinity or a Duality.  His opening speech started out as, ""When I gained my victories over my enemies, I thought nothing remained for me but to give thanks unto God and to rejoice with those who have been delivered by me. But when I learned, contrary to all expectations, that there were divisions among you, then I solemnly considered them, and praying that these discords might also be healed with my assistance, I summoned you here without delay. I rejoice to see you here, yet I should be more pleased to see unity and affection among you. I entreat you, therefore, beloved ministers of God, to remove the causes of dissension among you and to establish peace." [The Holy Fire: The Story of the Early Centuries of the Christian Churches in the Near East" (1957).] 
This effort was not completely successful, but finally he got a majority and declared under imperial degree that this hence forth would be the central doctrinal pillar of the Christian church, which by this time was apostate.  Even with this declaration by the emperor himself not all bishops signed the creed.

So is was the political product of an apostate church, an apostate church that allowed a pagan Roman Emporer, Constantine, to tell it which dogma to accept at the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D., and then have it rammed down their throats as blessed dogma by another Roman Emporer, Theodosius, at the Council of Constantinople in 381 A.D. This in direct violation of God's (YHWH's) word found in the Bible " Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." (James 4:4 AV), " If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." (John 15:19 AV). [Iris89, 2002 and John the 15 chapter]

Now how illogical this doctrine is for genuine Christianity can not only be seen from a historic point of view, but from a doctrinal point of view:

Robert Ingersoll makes the following comments in Ingersoll's Works, Vol. 4, p. 266-67:

Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost third.
Each of these persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both.
The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son.
The Holy Ghost proceeded from the Father and Son, but was equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say, before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two.
So it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son and the Holy Ghost God, and these three Gods make one God. According to the celestial multiplication table, once one is three, and three time one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar: if we add two to one we have but one. Each one equal to himself and to the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.  [Ingersoll's Works, Vol. 4, p. 266-67: by Robert Ingersoll]
Christians therefore are presented with a dilemma, accept the Bible or accept the doctrine of man put forth as the greatest deceit in all human history.  This choice will separate the genuine from the counterfeit.
To quickly determine which is which from the Holy Bible, let's look at some pertinent text:
" I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." (Isaiah 43:11 AV - Authorized King James Version)

"Salvation belongeth unto Jehovah: Thy blessing be upon thy people." (Psalms 3:8 ASV - American Standard Version of 1901)

"For, I,-Yahweh, am, Thy God, The Holy One of Israel Ready to save thee,-I have given, as thy ransom, Egypt, Ethiopia and Seba, in thy stead." (Isaiah 43:3 Rothrham Bible)

Now let's consider the reality, that according to the Old Testament (OT) only God (YHWH) can be the Savior; therefore in order for Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) to be the Savior, he would have to be God (YHWH).   But is this so?  Advocates of this con job try and support it with scriptures that in reality do not:

" I and my Father are one." (John 10:30 AV), but forget to mention this is one in purpose.

" And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:" (John 17:22 AV), but on close examination this clearly shows only one in purpose.

" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1 AV), use this product of a biased translation to try and prove their point, but overlook the scripture of a few verses later that sheds light onto reality, " And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (John 1:14 AV), which clearly shows Biblical truth.

" Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" (John 14:9 AV), but overlook the scripture a few verses later that clearly show what is meant, " Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." (John 14:12 AV)

" And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are." (John 17:11 AV), but forget that says his Father (YHWH) has given them to his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves); therefore could not be the same spiritual person.

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.  9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. (Colossians 2:8-9 AV), but overlook the meaning here of Godhead per Easton's Revised Bible Dictionary, #Ac 17:29 Ro 1:20 Col 2:9 the essential being or the nature of God.  In reality, it only shows, Preeminent position given to Christ: He is the image of God, the firstborn of all creation, the one through whom all other things were created, the head of the congregation, the firstborn from the dead and Through Christ reconciliation to God is effected.  Also, for those interested in translation, in the New Testament (NT), certain words derived from the·os' (god) appear and relate to that which is divine. The related words thei'os, thei·o'tes, and the·o'tes occur at Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, Colossians 2:9, and 2 Peter 1:3, 4.  Thus is vital position is highlighted, Yehovah (Almighty God)  "saw fit to make his firstborn Son the central, or key, figure in the outworking of all His purposes (Joh 1:14-18; Col 1:18-20; 2:8, 9), the focal point on which the light of all prophecies would concentrate and from which their light would radiate (1Pe 1:10-12; Re 19:10; Joh 1:3-9), the solution to all the problems that Satan's rebellion had raised (Heb 2:5-9, 14, 15; 1Jo 3:8), and the foundation upon which God would build all future arrangements for the eternal good of His universal family in heaven and earth. (Eph 1:8-10; 2:20; 1Pe 2:4-8) Because of the vital role he thus plays in God's purpose, Jesus could say, rightly and without exaggeration: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-Joh 14:6." [Insight, Vol. 2]
Likewise, they overlook the many scriptures that make clear there can be no such thing as the Trinity:
" And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matthew 19:17 AV), and this is Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) speaking.

" Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16 AV); here Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) clearly shows that the doctrine is not his but his Father's (YHWH), and that he had been sent by him.

" Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (John 14:28 AV); here Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) clearly shows that his Father (YHWH) is greater than he is.   For any one to argue against this, they would be calling the Son a liar and he is not.

" And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." (Matthew 26:39 AV); here Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) clearly is praying to his Father (YHWH) and recognizing that all worship belongs exclusively to him in keeping with " Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." (Matthew 4:10 AV).

" And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46 AV); clearly Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) he was speaking to his Father (YHWH) and not to himself.

" But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 AV); here Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) clearly reveals that only his Father (YHWH) and not he knows that hour for the end times.  If their relationship were that which is claimed by Trinitarians this would definitely not be the case.

There are, of course, more scriptures. The passages quoted are a representative of the opposing concepts.

Thus as can be seen, early Christians that had gone astray adopted the Trinity doctrine to please a pagan emperor who worshipped the Unconquered Sun as God in a pagan religion that had a Trinity.  The emperor really did not care much about doctrine and certainly did not care about Biblical truths, but for political reasons, not doctrinal, wanted a religiously united empire.  He obtained this by winning most of the bishops that attended the Council of Nicea that he, not the so called church fathers, over to the point of view that was politically expedient for him.  Thereby, creating a dilemma for all Christians, genuine and counterfeit.  To get away from the dilemma, this false dogma creates, those Christians departing from Bible truths have come up with a great con cover-up, "these wayward Christians go to nearly any length to prove the Trinity including the declaration that its a "mystery" and we "just don't have the mind to understand it". [Iris89, 2002]  Now this begs the question, Is the bible the perfect, in-errant word of God?

Truly, The arrival of the Trinity doctrine into errant Christianity is appalling.  Like most historic issues pertaining to Christianity, there was much deceit and bloodshed.  Many lives were lost before 'Trinitarianism' was finally adopted, and imposed at the point of the sword. 

As many Christians know, the word "trinity" does not appear in the Bible. It doesn't because it is a doctrine which evolved after being borrowed in early Christianity from the pagans.  It was a manipulated, bloody and deadly process before it finally arrived as an 'accepted' doctrine of the so called church.  In other words, the founders of the early Christian church had no idea that the Trinity concept would evolve, be voted upon by politicians, forced by emperors and eventually become an integral part of so called Christianity such as we have it today. Is it any wonder that its "difficult" to explain?
Is there one Christian God or Three In One? The majority of Christian churches hold to the Trinity doctrine but there are still Christian church holdouts who reject the teaching. We now enjoy the freedom to believe either doctrine but at risk of ridicule if we choose non-Trinitarian beliefs.
 

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COMBINATION OF [1]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2]   DISCOURSE ON THE GREAT DECEIT:


[1]       SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 809A]

King Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest.  28  Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.  29  And Paul said, I would to God, that not only thou, but also all that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such as I am, except these bonds.   Acts 26:27 – 29,  [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Here, the Apostle Paul is appearing before King Agrippa to make his defense for spreading the truth of Almighty God (YHWH) to many in ancient Jerusalem.  In his defense as recorded at Acts 26:1 - 8, [AV] he says, “Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Thou art permitted to speak for thyself. Then Paul stretched forth the hand, and answered for himself:  2  I think myself happy, king Agrippa, because I shall answer for myself this day before thee touching all the things whereof I am accused of the Jews:  3  Especially because I know thee to be expert in all customs and questions which are among the Jews: wherefore I beseech thee to hear me patiently.  4  My manner of life from my youth, which was at the first among mine own nation at Jerusalem, know all the Jews;  5  Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee.  6  And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God unto our fathers:  7  Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come. For which hope’s sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews.  8  Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead?” 

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[2]   DISCOURSE ON THE GREAT DECEIT:

Today con men are very much in the news and deceit is being practiced by many; however, con jobs and deceit are nothing new.  The greatest deceit of all history, however, was the slipping into so called Christianity of a pagan God dishonoring doctrine by a worshipper of the Unconquered Sun, one Emperor Constantine, with the tacit approval of many bishops of an apostate church that was seeking to become 'respectable' with its pagan neighbors.  This occurred in 325 AD at the Council of Nicea. 

Why was this pagan Emperor so concerned with getting this God dishonoring doctrine into the so called Christian church.  Well let's examine the political situation of the time.  The Roman Empire at this time was being torn apart by religious differences between pagans, mostly Sun God worshippers, and Christianity. Constantine the Emporer was a worshipper of the Unconquered Sun, but he was a very pragmatic individual and saw the need to bring religious unity to his empire.  The central doctrine of the pagans was the dogma of a Trinity that they had received from earlier pagans in Babylon (Chaldea). In this, the pagan Emperor, Constantine, saw a possibility for unifying his empire if he could only lead the majority of the Christians to accept a Trinity or a Duality. He knew however that he had to make them think it was their own idea. To this end, he, the Roman emperor Constantine summoned all bishops to Nicaea, about 300, but even though it was the emperor's direction, only a fraction actually attended.

Let's regress for a moment and see how this all came about.   A feud started within the church between two theologians, Alexander and Arius over theology. All Arius said was that if the Father begat the Son, then the Son must have had a birth, and therefore there was a time when the Son of God did not exist.  But his simple statement of truth by Arius started the greatest theological controversy of all times between the forces for maintaining strict adherence to the Bible and the forces for attachment of personal ideas and compromise.

Inevitably it came to the ears of the emperor, who discussed with Hosius, the saintly bishop of Cordova, what should be done to put an end to the quarrels among the sects. Like James I of England, Constantine regarded unity as "the mother of order," and he was not overmuch concerned with the theological truths at stake: he decided to send Hosius to Nicomedia and Alexandria with a letter written in his own hand, ordering by imperial rescript an end to the quarrel.

The letter-one of the most astonishing letters ever written by an emperor to priests-has come down to us in a version that shows no signs of being edited. It is hot-tempered, querulous, disjointed, and commanding. It is abundantly clear that the emperor is not quite clear in his own mind what the quarrel is about. He observes that "these questions are the idle cobwebs of contention, spun by curious wits," and he asks, "Who is capable of distinguishing such deep and hidden mysteries?" He recognizes that the contestants are well-armed with arguments, but he can make neither head nor tail of them.
[The Holy Fire: The Story of the Early Centuries of the Christian Churches in the Near East" (1957).]

It makes no difference to Emperor Constantine that, "In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word trias (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch, about A.D. 180. He speaks of "the Trinity of God [the Father], His Word and His Wisdom ("Ad. Autol.", II, 15).  [The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XV]

His concern is to unite his empire religiously so that he has unity. This council went on for a very long time and the emperor worked behind the scene to get support for a Trinity or a Duality.  His opening speech started out as, ""When I gained my victories over my enemies, I thought nothing remained for me but to give thanks unto God and to rejoice with those who have been delivered by me. But when I learned, contrary to all expectations, that there were divisions among you, then I solemnly considered them, and praying that these discords might also be healed with my assistance, I summoned you here without delay. I rejoice to see you here, yet I should be more pleased to see unity and affection among you. I entreat you, therefore, beloved ministers of God, to remove the causes of dissension among you and to establish peace." [The Holy Fire: The Story of the Early Centuries of the Christian Churches in the Near East" (1957).] 
This effort was not completely successful, but finally he got a majority and declared under imperial degree that this hence forth would be the central doctrinal pillar of the Christian church, which by this time was apostate.  Even with this declaration by the emperor himself not all bishops signed the creed.

So is was the political product of an apostate church, an apostate church that allowed a pagan Roman Emporer, Constantine, to tell it which dogma to accept at the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D., and then have it rammed down their throats as blessed dogma by another Roman Emporer, Theodosius, at the Council of Constantinople in 381 A.D. This in direct violation of God's (YHWH's) word found in the Bible " Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." (James 4:4 AV), " If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." (John 15:19 AV). [Iris89, 2002 and John the 15 chapter]

Now how illogical this doctrine is for genuine Christianity can not only be seen from a historic point of view, but from a doctrinal point of view:

Robert Ingersoll makes the following comments in Ingersoll's Works, Vol. 4, p. 266-67:

Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost third.
Each of these persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both.
The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son.
The Holy Ghost proceeded from the Father and Son, but was equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say, before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two.
So it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son and the Holy Ghost God, and these three Gods make one God. According to the celestial multiplication table, once one is three, and three time one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar: if we add two to one we have but one. Each one equal to himself and to the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.  [Ingersoll's Works, Vol. 4, p. 266-67: by Robert Ingersoll]
Christians therefore are presented with a dilemma, accept the Bible or accept the doctrine of man put forth as the greatest deceit in all human history.  This choice will separate the genuine from the counterfeit.
To quickly determine which is which from the Holy Bible, let's look at some pertinent text:
" I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." (Isaiah 43:11 AV - Authorized King James Version)

"Salvation belongeth unto Jehovah: Thy blessing be upon thy people." (Psalms 3:8 ASV - American Standard Version of 1901)

"For, I,-Yahweh, am, Thy God, The Holy One of Israel Ready to save thee,-I have given, as thy ransom, Egypt, Ethiopia and Seba, in thy stead." (Isaiah 43:3 Rothrham Bible)

Now let's consider the reality, that according to the Old Testament (OT) only God (YHWH) can be the Savior; therefore in order for Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) to be the Savior, he would have to be God (YHWH).   But is this so?  Advocates of this con job try and support it with scriptures that in reality do not:

" I and my Father are one." (John 10:30 AV), but forget to mention this is one in purpose.

" And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:" (John 17:22 AV), but on close examination this clearly shows only one in purpose.

" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1 AV), use this product of a biased translation to try and prove their point, but overlook the scripture of a few verses later that sheds light onto reality, " And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (John 1:14 AV), which clearly shows Biblical truth.

" Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" (John 14:9 AV), but overlook the scripture a few verses later that clearly show what is meant, " Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." (John 14:12 AV)

" And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are." (John 17:11 AV), but forget that says his Father (YHWH) has given them to his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves); therefore could not be the same spiritual person.

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.  9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. (Colossians 2:8-9 AV), but overlook the meaning here of Godhead per Easton's Revised Bible Dictionary, #Ac 17:29 Ro 1:20 Col 2:9 the essential being or the nature of God.  In reality, it only shows, Preeminent position given to Christ: He is the image of God, the firstborn of all creation, the one through whom all other things were created, the head of the congregation, the firstborn from the dead and Through Christ reconciliation to God is effected.  Also, for those interested in translation, in the New Testament (NT), certain words derived from the·os' (god) appear and relate to that which is divine. The related words thei'os, thei·o'tes, and the·o'tes occur at Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, Colossians 2:9, and 2 Peter 1:3, 4.  Thus is vital position is highlighted, Yehovah (Almighty God)  "saw fit to make his firstborn Son the central, or key, figure in the outworking of all His purposes (Joh 1:14-18; Col 1:18-20; 2:8, 9), the focal point on which the light of all prophecies would concentrate and from which their light would radiate (1Pe 1:10-12; Re 19:10; Joh 1:3-9), the solution to all the problems that Satan's rebellion had raised (Heb 2:5-9, 14, 15; 1Jo 3:8), and the foundation upon which God would build all future arrangements for the eternal good of His universal family in heaven and earth. (Eph 1:8-10; 2:20; 1Pe 2:4-8) Because of the vital role he thus plays in God's purpose, Jesus could say, rightly and without exaggeration: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-Joh 14:6." [Insight, Vol. 2]
Likewise, they overlook the many scriptures that make clear there can be no such thing as the Trinity:
" And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matthew 19:17 AV), and this is Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) speaking.

" Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16 AV); here Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) clearly shows that the doctrine is not his but his Father's (YHWH), and that he had been sent by him.

" Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (John 14:28 AV); here Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) clearly shows that his Father (YHWH) is greater than he is.   For any one to argue against this, they would be calling the Son a liar and he is not.

" And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." (Matthew 26:39 AV); here Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) clearly is praying to his Father (YHWH) and recognizing that all worship belongs exclusively to him in keeping with " Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." (Matthew 4:10 AV).

" And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46 AV); clearly Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) he was speaking to his Father (YHWH) and not to himself.

" But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 AV); here Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) clearly reveals that only his Father (YHWH) and not he knows that hour for the end times.  If their relationship were that which is claimed by Trinitarians this would definitely not be the case.

There are, of course, more scriptures. The passages quoted are a representative of the opposing concepts.

Thus as can be seen, early Christians that had gone astray adopted the Trinity doctrine to please a pagan emperor who worshipped the Unconquered Sun as God in a pagan religion that had a Trinity.  The emperor really did not care much about doctrine and certainly did not care about Biblical truths, but for political reasons, not doctrinal, wanted a religiously united empire.  He obtained this by winning most of the bishops that attended the Council of Nicea that he, not the so called church fathers, over to the point of view that was politically expedient for him.  Thereby, creating a dilemma for all Christians, genuine and counterfeit.  To get away from the dilemma, this false dogma creates, those Christians departing from Bible truths have come up with a great con cover-up, "these wayward Christians go to nearly any length to prove the Trinity including the declaration that its a "mystery" and we "just don't have the mind to understand it". [Iris89, 2002]  Now this begs the question, Is the bible the perfect, in-errant word of God?

Truly, The arrival of the Trinity doctrine into errant Christianity is appalling.  Like most historic issues pertaining to Christianity, there was much deceit and bloodshed.  Many lives were lost before 'Trinitarianism' was finally adopted, and imposed at the point of the sword. 

As many Christians know, the word "trinity" does not appear in the Bible. It doesn't because it is a doctrine which evolved after being borrowed in early Christianity from the pagans.  It was a manipulated, bloody and deadly process before it finally arrived as an 'accepted' doctrine of the so called church.  In other words, the founders of the early Christian church had no idea that the Trinity concept would evolve, be voted upon by politicians, forced by emperors and eventually become an integral part of so called Christianity such as we have it today. Is it any wonder that its "difficult" to explain?
Is there one Christian God or Three In One? The majority of Christian churches hold to the Trinity doctrine but there are still Christian church holdouts who reject the teaching. We now enjoy the freedom to believe either doctrine but at risk of ridicule if we choose non-Trinitarian beliefs.
 

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