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Modern Sex Practices Vs. The Word of God:
INTRODUCTION:
Many sex practices that would have been rejected outright as disgusting and against the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible, are now considered okay by many of the 'new' generation. However, is this really the case?
All should bear in mind 1 Peter 4:18, "And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?" (Authorized King James Bible; AV); therefore, all should openly mindedly check out the facts. However, many so called moderns consider the disgusting unnatural forms of sex such as oral, anal, man-with-man, women-with-women, man-with-animal, women-with-animal, adult-with-child acceptable.
Now are these disgusting forms of unnatural sex acceptable to the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is/
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT NATURAL AND UNNATURAL SEX:
First, one needs to understand the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, purpose for creating man and women as sexual beings. He made us this way and natural sex pleasurable to ensure the continuation of the human race.
Second, Vaginal intercourse is natural sex as the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, intended for continuation of the human race and whose function is clearly attested to in medicine as the design function of the human body. All other sex is unnatural.
Third, Let's consider what the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, says on the matter at Romans 1:27-28, "Their women have exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and their men in turn, giving up natural relations with women, burn with lust for one another; males behave indecently with males and a paid in their own persons the fitting wage of such perversion. 28 Thus, because they have not seen fit to acknowledge God, he has given them up to their own depraved reason. This leads them to break all rules of conduct." (The New English Bible; NEB).
The scripture is clear when it says, ", "Their women have exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural..."
Natural intercourse = vaginal intercourse.
Unnatural intercourse (sex) = anything other than vaginal intercourse.
Fourth, This same scripture with comments in double brackets to bring out the significance of Romans 1:27-28, "Romans 1:27-28, "Their women have exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural[[A clear showing of Sodomy, note, the word unnatural contrasted to natural intercourse]], and their men in turn, giving up natural relations with women, burn with lust for one another; males behave indecently with males,[[A clear showing of Homosexuality, men burning in lust for other males]] and a paid in their own persons the fitting wage of such perversion. 28 Thus, because they have not seen fit to acknowledge God, he has given them up to their own depraved reason. This leads them to break all rules of conduct." (The New English Bible; NEB).
Fifth, An anatomy observation of the sexual organs of both sexes should be sufficient for anyone to see what their natural intended function is. I have been married for many years and neither I or my husband have ever had any problem with comprehending this so I am quite perplexed why you do. It is so elementary.
CONSENSUS AMONG WRONG DOERS VS. WORD OF GOD:
Many so called modern individuals wrongly believe that because the two individuals indulging in self-gratification through unnatural sexual acts and/or fornication do so by mutual consent that these wrong acts are okay and none of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, business. But is this so?
The inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible, clearly shows otherwise as previously shown with respect Romans 1:27-28. Likewise, the Bible clearly shows that we must properly train our conscience at Hebrews 9:14-15, "How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 ¶ And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance." (Authorized King James Bible; AV). And 2 Timothy 3:16-17 clearly shows that, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." (AV).
As Colossians 3:5 shows, "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:" (AV) clearly referring to the sexual organs of male and female and showing per 1 Timothy 1:19, "Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:" (AV).
Let's now consider just what sin is by looking at 1 John 3:4, "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." (AV); and 1 John 5:17, "All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death." (AV). As Galatians 5:19-21 states, "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." (AV); and as Mark 7:21-23 says, "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man." (AV).
SEXUAL RELATIONS BEFORE MARRIAGE ARE WRONG:
The inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible, clearly shows sexual relations before and/or without marriage are just plain wrong, sin, at 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8, "For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: 4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; 5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: 6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. 7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. 8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit." (AV); and Ephesians 5:5, "For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God." (AV).
And 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God." (AV).
HOMOSEXUALITY AND UNNATURAL SEX ACTS ARE JUST PLAIN SIN:
Today, many people believe homosexuality and unnatural sex acts such as oral and anal sex are just a different "life style" and should be respected. In fact, it has gotten so bad that some mainstream religions are even appointing homosexuals and practitioners of unnatural sex acts to high church positions. However, the Bible is clear on this wrong practice as shown at Romans 1:27-28, already explained and quoted, 1 Timothy 1:9-11, "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust." (AV); and Jude 1:7-8, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 8 ¶ Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities." (AV); and Genesis 19:4-9 and 24-24, "But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. 9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door." And "Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground." (AV).
Let's face it, the genuine (true) followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ well know that even deeply rooted wrong desires are not insurmountable for individuals who really want to please the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is.
SINFUL SEXUAL PRACTICES BY MUSLIMS AND APOSTATE (COUNTERFEIT) SO CALLED CHRISTIANS:
Let's look at some of the wrong sexual practices of apostate (counterfeit) so called Christian leaders and members of Islam as documented from world news and internet sources.
<<<" Among both apostate (counterfeit) Christians and members of Islam some practice deviant forms of sex and both religious groups say this is wrong, but wink at its practice. On 11/02/2006, one leading Evangelical leader was uncovered to be publicly denouncing homosexuality as condemned at Romans 1:27, "and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due." (Authorized King James Bible; AV); here is the news account of this winking at wrong doing by The Rev. Ted Haggard, <<"CATHERINE TSAI, Associated Press Writer (11/03/2006), COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - A leading evangelist and outspoken opponent of gay marriage has given up his post as president of the National Association of Evangelicals while a church panel investigates allegations he paid a man for sex. The Rev. Ted Haggard resigned as head of the 30 million-member association Thursday and also gave up leadership of his New Life Church pending the investigation into allegations he had monthly trysts with a gay prostitute over the past three years...
"I just know that there has been some admission of indiscretion, not admission to all of the material that has been discussed, but there is an admission of some guilt," Ross Parsley told KKTV-TV of Colorado Springs.
Parlsey did not elaborate, but in an e-mail addressed to congregants, he wrote that the church's four-member board of overseers had since met with Haggard. "It is important for you to know that he confessed to the overseers that some of the accusations against him are true. He has willingly and humbly submitted to the authority of the board of overseers, and will remain on administrative leave during the course of the investigation," the e-mail stated. A copy was obtained by KMGH-TV in Denver...
[outted by]Jones, who said he is gay, said he was also upset when he discovered Haggard and the New Life Church had publicly opposed same-sex marriage. "It made me angry that here's someone preaching about gay marriage and going behind the scenes having gay sex," he said.
Jones claimed Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. He said he advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and was contacted by a man who called himself Art, who snorted methamphetamine before their sexual encounters to heighten his experience...
At the time, Haggard said that he believed marriage is a union between a man and woman rooted in centuries of tradition, and that research shows it's the best family unit for children.">> [[Note, the Los Angeles Times also had a very telling article on this, "Evangelical leader steps down amid allegations The Rev. Ted Haggard denies a man's public charges that the pastor of a mega-church had been paying him for sex. By Stephanie Simon, Times Staff Writer (11/03/2006).]].
Of course this is no isolated case. The cases are so numerous that the accounts would definitely fill a library rack many meters or yards long. Some references on this dysfunction would be "The Church and the Homosexual Priest Facing the challenges and accepting the gifts offered by homosexual priests in the Catholic Church" by James Martin - in The National Catholic Weekly, The Changing Face of the Priesthood, Rev. Donald B. Cozzens, Prince Charles Praises Openly Gay Anglican Priest, by Terry Vanderheyden, published Oct 11, 2006, by LifeSite News:, etc.
And this wrong practice is not limited just to apostate (counterfeit) Christians but the winking at violation of Romans 1:27 carries over into Ialam where gay members of Islam actually operate a web site implicitly implying Muhammad (pbuh) may have been gay, called Gay Egypt>com which states, "sponsors 3,500 forums for 175 million GAY muslims & their admirers across the Middle East, Africa, Asia, & Worldwide."
Gay Egypt said this of Muhammad (pbuh), <<"These essays reveal a forgotten history including the amazing saga of the Prophet Muhammad [(pbuh)]and Zaid Ibn Haritha. A story which has been suppressed in order to justify the persecution of gays in the name of Islam.
Zaid was a slave, a wedding gift from Muhammad's [(pbuh)'s] wealthy older bride Khadija, so there was no question of adultery under Sharia law. When the Prophet eventually freed Zaid, he proclaimed a formal partnership or union, equivalent to a marriage. Zaid became, in effect, a "male wife" who was equal in status to Khadija.
First with Zaid, and later with Ali, Muhammad [(pbuh)] formed a bond which was even closer than those of his ten "heterosexual marriages." Love that was tested through extreme adversity and martydom. [source - ]>>.
Of this organization, Newsweek said,<<"GayEgypt.com "pokes fun at Egypt's autocratic regime with an irreverence no domestic site would dare express,">>, and the The Middle East Times said, <<"GayEgypt.com has emerged as a key source of information and communication for the gay community in Egypt.">>.
Interestingly Islam is winking at this and doing nothing about Gay Egypt.com, nor are members of Islam protesting what most would take as a serious attack on their prophet's moral character; yet they rioted over silly cartoons of Muhammad (pbuh). Makes one wonder does it not? "[source - False Religion Spreads False Doctrine and Practice by Iris the Preacher - can be read at, or
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ISLAM TACITLY CONDONES IMMORAL SEX:
Now Islam condemns what they see as immoral conditions in western lands, but it too permits immoral sex and sometimes severly punishes women who resist rape. Let's look at an actual case.
<<"Rape Victims Held Criminally Libel, a news item on page 17a, of the Sunday, June 2, 2002, The Palm Beach Post article, "Pakistani rape victims the criminals." This article stated, "The evidence of guilt was there for all to see: a newborn baby in the arms of its mother, a village woman named Zafran Bibi.
Her crime: She had been raped. Her sentence: death by stoning.
Thumping a fat red statute book, the white-bearded judge who convicted her, Anwar Ali Kahn, said he had simply followed the letter of the Koran based law, known as hudood, that mandates punishment.
Furthermore, he said, in accusing her brother-in-law of raping her, Zafran had confessed to her crime.
"The lady stated before this court that, yea, she had committed sexual intercourse, but with the brother of her husband," Judge Khan said. "This left no option to the court but to impose the highest penalty."
Although legal fine points do exist, little distinction is made in court between forced and consensual sex.
When hudood was enacted 23 years ago, the laws were formally described as measures to ban "all forms of adultery, whether the offense is committed with or without the consent of the parties." But women are almost always punished, whatever the facts.">>
This is of course absurd and a tacit approving of rape; a total injustice.
Here is another example,
<<"Imam justifies rape of unveiled women
Australian cleric compares victims to 'uncovered meat' that attracts cats
October 26, 2006
(c) 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
Australia's top Muslim cleric rationalized a series of gang rapes by Arab men, blaming women who "sway suggestively," wear make-up and don't cover themselves in the tradition of Islam.
Sheik Ibrahim Mogra with Sheik Taj el-Dene Elhilaly. (Courtesy Sydney Daily Telegraph)
Sheik Taj el-Dene Elhilaly's comments in a Ramadan sermon in a Sydney mosque have stirred a furor in the country with even Prime Minister John Howard weighing in with condemnation.
The cleric also said the judge in the case, who sentenced the rapists, had "no mercy."
"But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he said, referring to the women victims - whom he said were "weapons used by Satan."
The victims of the vicious gang rapes are leading the national outcry - with some calling for deportation of the sheik. In a Sydney Daily Telegraph online poll, 84 percent of people said the Egyptian-born sheik should be deported.
(Story continues below)
"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?" the sheik said in his sermon. "The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."
A 16-year-old girl, whose gang rape investigation was the subject of a secret police report, issued an open letter yesterday.
"You are a sad person who has no understanding of what really happens when these people inflict harm and degrading acts upon me or any other young girl," she said.
Initially, the mufti of Australia would not back away from his comments. But today he apologized.
"I unreservedly apologize to any woman who is offended by my comments," he said in a statement. "I had only intended to protect women's honor."
Howard said the sheik's remarks were "appalling and reprehensible." ">>
Now one can ask what was the antecedent for such an outrageous speech by the grand Mufti of Australia? Well, let's look at it.
<<" FrontPageMagazine.com | December 15, 2005
In Australia this week amidst anger over an Islamic man's rape conviction and the bashing of two Aussie life savers, working-class locals erupted in a rampage of anger and brawling in some of the worst racial riots in decades. But there is more to the story than is being repeated in the American mainstream media....
Four days after he set foot in Australia, the rape spree began. And during his sexual assault trial in a New South Wales courtroom, the Pakistani man began to berate one of his tearful 14-year-old victims because she had the temerity to shake her head at his testimony.
But she had every reason to express her disgust. After taking an oath on the Qur'an, the man - known only as MSK - told the court he had committed four attacks on girls as young as 13 because they had no right to say "no." They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed: "I'm not doing anything wrong."
MSK is already serving a 22-year jail term for leading his three younger brothers in a gang rape of two other young Sydney girls in 2002. In his own defense, he argued that his cultural background, was responsible for his crimes.">>.
Let's look at one more case so all can see they are noy isolated incidents,
“ 7 January 2006 -- Iran's "Etemad" newspaper reports today that an 18-year-old woman has been sentenced to death by hanging for killing a man she said was trying to rape her.
The newspaper reported that the woman, identified only as Nazanin, testified during her trial that she and her niece were out with their boyfriends when they were accosted by two men who chased away the boyfriends then tried to rape the two young women.
Nazanin admitted stabbing one of the men to prevent her and her niece from being assaulted.
Nazanin was only 17 years old at the time, but under Iranian law a boy can be executed from the age of 15 and a girl from the age of nine.
At least 81 people were executed in 2005 in Iran, which has been heavily criticized within the international community for its laws and practices on capital punishment. [source - AFP]">>.
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<<<" Omar-khanah (Persian for "Omar's house") (pron. omar-khaneh in Farsi and omar-khanah in Urdu and Panjabi)in reference to Omar ibn al Khattab, the second Sunni Caliph. See also Shia view of Umar bin al-Khattab.
In Iranian and South-Asian Shi'a slang the omar-khanah designates the toilets or latrines. This scatological expression is typical of the Shi'a tradition of tabarra or disassociation from the enemies of Ahl ul Bayt (as). Cursing Abu Bakr (la), Omar (la) and Uthman (la) the first three caliphs of the Sunnis is a way of proving that one disassociates with the ennmies of Ahl ul Bayt (as). In this Omar (la) has a privileged position. Shi'a humour associates him with sodomy and other scatological themes such as faeces.One has to remember that this is even attested in Sunni sources. Omar (la) seems to have had zoophilic tendencies as attested by this Sunni hadith:
Umar ibn al Khattab placed his hand inside a camel's anus and commented 'I'm afraid that someone might ask me what is wrong with you.' Al-Tabaqat Al Kubra by Ibn Sa'd, Part 3, Page 286
Omar (la) also seems to have had homosexual tendencies as shown in this Sunni hadith:
"The Servant of Hadhrath Umar narrates when Umar would urinate he would call out to me to bring something with which he could clean himself, I would bring him a piece of wood or a stone, would hold Hadhrath Umar's penis and rub it against a wall or on the ground, Imam of Ahl as-Sunnah Baihaqi stated that of all types of wiping cleaning this is the most correct method". Fatawa Abdul Hai page 303
Based on the devient tendencies of Omar as attested by his own followers, many Shi'as have developped a whole slang and humour based on Omar ibn al Khattab (la).
Even in the diaspora this humour expresses itself easily in English as the following examples show:
To visit the three kings = to visit the toilet (three kings = three caliphs), To visit Omar = to visit the toilet, To give Omar chocolates = to defecate, To be an Omar pain = to be a pain in the anus, Omaroids = hemoroids
This article has only mentioned a few of these new uses but there is no doubt that even in the diasporic context tabarra humour finds new ways of expressing itself. A study of it in the context of the translatability of cultures is still pending.
Certain Sikhs use a variation of it, wazir-khanah (the house of Wazir) after the governor of Sirhind, Wazir Khan who had the two youngest sons of Guru Gobind Singh executed.Wazir-khanah also means toilet or latrine.
The sactological dimension of Omar (la) is further reinforced by the fact that he was stabbed by Abu Lulua (ra) in the anal region and bled to death in that way. His last words were:"Kill the son of a bitch!" (Compare with Imam Ali's (as) last words). Omar (la) thus confirms the saying: "He lived by the arse and died by the arse!"[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]>>>.
These articles speak for themselves; hence no comment needed.
CONCLUSION:
Some continue to defend wrong and unnatural sexual practices with arguments that it is not wrong if between two consenting adults, but that as has been shown is contrary to the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible.
As stated previously, Vaginal intercourse is natural intercourse as the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, intended for continuation of the human race and whose function is clearly attested to in medicine as the design function of the human body. All other sex is unnatural.
Unnatural sex can be many different forms of sex, but would definitely include all forms other than the natural vaginal sex. It would include lesbianism, oral, anal, etc. Even a cursory examination of the male and female body should reveal to any thinking person the natural intended use of the reproductive organs.
Yes, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, sanctified marriage between man and woman, but not for self-gratification through the unnatural use of the reproductive organs.
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Genuine True Followers of Christ View On Sex
INTRODUCTION:
Today, many who claim to be Christians unfortunately do NOT have his view with regard to sex. In reality those are NOT genuine true followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ, but only Christian in name only; to wit, they really are NOT followers of his or his Father, Almighty God (YHWH), but are false or counterfeit Christians.
In fact, In considering whether those calling themselves Christian are correct in belief or in serious error, one needs to consider several scriptures in the new testament showing the Truth with respect what God (YHWH) has to say through inspired writers and then reflect back to how this would apply to those calling themselves Christian are really genuine true followers, we must consider the following. First let's consider both Luke 13:24 and Matthew 7:13-14, it is in both of these that the road followed by true believers would be narrow and cramped, Luke 13:24, "Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." (Authorized King James Bible: AV); And Matthew 7:13-14, "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, abroad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." [Authorized King James Bible: AV]; thereby, clearly showing few would be entering the narrow gate "which leadeth unto life." In reality, it will be difficult for even true Christians to enter as testified to at 1 Peter 4:18, "And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear." (AV). In order to enter, we must have the right sort of guide, Luke 1:79, "To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace." (AV). Now, if one picks the wrong group, just because it is popular or the so called 'one to belong to in a community' and not because of Bible Truths, there is an important warning given at Matthew 15:14, "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." (AV). In fact, being with the wrong group can mean you are NOT having fellowship with the Son of God, Jesus (Yeshua) as testified to at 1 John 1:6, "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not [have] the truth." (AV). This danger is made abundantly clear at Luke 12:32 when Jesus (Yeshua) spoke of his true followers as a little flock and not a large one, "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom." (AV). Simply stated, his true followers will be relatively few in number which should cause all sincere individuals to question whether mainstream religion with its vast membership is heading for the narrow gate!
TRUE FOLLOWERS WILL SEEK TO KEEP THEIR ORGANICATION CLEAN:
First, The world we live in is ruled by the wicked one as testified to by 1 John 5:19, “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.” (Authorized King James Bible; AV). If we pick up a newspaper in any country, we find reports of cruelty and violence on an unprecedented scale. Man’s inhumanity to man is troubling for a righteous person to contemplate as testified to at Ecclesiastes 8:9, “All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.” (AV).
Second, Most individuals and/or groups seek to avoid responsibility for their own actions rather than take corrective actions. This also applies to so called religious groups that seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for the wrong actions of members, but fail, willingly, to take action against these wrong doers by purging themselves of these wicked ones.
Third, REALITY, If a religion fails to clean house of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suicide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who is a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Of course, Islam, is NOT the only religion that fails to take effective action against evil and wicked individuals and leaders of groups among them, another is the Catholic and Angalican churches that for many years just moved pedophiles to a new congregation when they were uncovered as the world's news media has so well identified. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.
Fourth, Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but THIS IS NO EXCUSE SINCE IT IS THEIR FAILURE TO PROVIDE MEASURES FOR PURGING OUT THESE WICKED ONES AND NO ONE ELSE’S.
GOD’S VIEW OF SEX AND ITS PURPOSE IN HIS GRAND PLAN:
1 – When Almighty God (YHWH) placed mankind on earth, he commanded Adam at Genesis 2:16, “And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:” [Authorized King James Bible: AV], before he created Eve to be his wife. Therefore, this provision could not have referred to sexual relations. Also, when she came to be Adam’s wife he gave them a command at Genesis 1:28, “And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.” [AV} Of course, this replenishment of the earth by humans would only have been possible by sexual relations. Now let’s realistically accept that a loving Almighty God (YHWH) would NOT instruct the first couple to replenish the earth which would involve having sexual relations, and then sentence them to death for not following his instructions since 1 John 4:8, “He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.” [AV} clearly shows he is a loving God.
So the original sin was clearly not sex, but disobeying Almighty God (YHWH) command given at Genesis 2:16. This is clearly shown at Genesis 3:6, “And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.” And what followed at Genesis 3:16-17, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. 17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;” [AV}.
2- Now some may ask if sexual pleasure is wrong in Almighty God (YHWH) sight, but if one checks Genesis 1:27 and 31, “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” And “And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.” [AV} which shows he was pleased with what he had created; and Proverbs 5:18-19 says, “Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth. 19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.” [AV}, so we can see he was NOT against sexual pleasure in the confines of a marriage. Otherwise, he would not have created them to enjoy these relationships.
3 – However, God’s word clearly states at Hebrews 13:4, “Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.” [AV} clearly showing sexual pleasure is only supposed to be enjoyed within marriage, and this is made very clear at Ecclesiastes 3:1, “To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:” [AV}, and within marriage is the only time for sexual relations.
4 – In fact, God’s word clearly states that he per Hebrews 13:4, “Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.” [AV} showing there is no place for fornication which refers to the misuse of the sexual organs of those who are not married to each other.
5 – Some may ask if polygamy is now acceptable and this is answered at Matthew 19:3-6 by Jesus (Yeshua) Christ, “The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” [AV}. In fact one of his apostles said at 1 Corinthians 7:2, “Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.’ [AV}. [notice it did NOT say wives.]
6 – Now is it wrong for married couples to use contraceptives? Well, Jesus (Yeshua) Christ never commanded his followers to have children, and the scripture at Genesis 3:28, “And God blessed them, and God said to them––Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth, and subdue it,––and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the bird of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth on the land.” [Rotherham Bible, RB] which makes clear he wanted the earth filled or replenished with people, but this in NO way implies that humans should over fill it – which would be very bad and result in famine and other calamities as it would result in the ‘carrying capacity’ of the being exceeded.
Therefore if a married couple choose to use a nonabortive form of contraceptive to avoid pregnancy, that is their personal decision and responsibility.
7 – Abortions are an abomination since it is the murder of a human being. God’s word clearly shows this at Exodus 20:13, “Thou shalt not kill.” [AV} and Exodus 21:22-23, “And, when men strive together, and push against a woman with child, and she miscarry, but there is no other mischief, he shall, surely be fined, according as the woman’s husband shall lay upon him, but he shall give it through judges. 23 But, if mischief follow, then shalt thou give life for life;” [RB].
8 – Now all forms of fornication such as homosexuality, bestiality, sex relations between unmarried individuals, etc. are contrary to Almighty God (YHWH) purpose for mankind as clearly shown at Romans 1:26-27, “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.” [AV} and Galatians 5:19-20, “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,” [AV}. But this does NOT imply we should not show kindness to people practicing these wrongs. Clearly we should strive to show them the errors of their ways in loving kindness.
9 – All inappropriate talking about sex such as ‘sexting,’ phone sex, listening to explicit erotic messages, etc. should not be indulged in as shown by Ephesians 5:3-4, “But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.” [AV}.
CONCLUSION:
As has been shown in this article, there should be no sex and/or sexual play outside of marriage, and a man should ONLY be the husband of one wife – not polygamous. Also, inappropriate talking about sex should not be indulged in.
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Pedophiles and Taking of Child Brides (Children) Runs Loose In Islam From Its Beginnings
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Item #1
Sexual Pedophile Abuse of Young Girls Is A Product of Muslim Education:
THE REALITY OF MUSLIM EDUCATION AND THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN
The reality is that Muslim education of children is just plain sick as Muslim leaders clearly consider pedophile sexual abuse of female children a good thing as shown by a recent New Saudi Fatwa by Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, a prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council. This proves beyond doubt that pedophilism is sanctioned at the highest levels within Islam and a part of Muslim education – read reality:
“New Saudi Fatwa Defends Pedophilia as “Marriage”
Posted by Raymond Ibrahim Bio ? on Jul 26th, 2011
[source - retrieved from on 7/27/2011]
Muslim “child-marriage” — euphemism for pedophilia — is making headlines again, at least in Arabic media: Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, a prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council, just issued a fatwa asserting that there is no minimum age for marriage, and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.”
Appearing in Saudi papers on July 13, the fatwa complains that “Uninformed interference with Sharia rulings by the press and journalists is on the increase, posing dire consequences to society, including their interference with the question of marriage to small girls who have not reached maturity, and their demand that a minimum age be set for girls to marry.”
Fawzan insists that nowhere does Sharia set an age limit for marrying girls: like countless Muslim scholars before him, he relies on Koran 65:4, which discusses marriage to females who have not yet begun menstruating (i.e., are prepubescent) and the fact that Muhammad, Islam’s role model, married Aisha when she was 6 years old, “consummating” the marriage — or, in modern parlance, raping her — when she was 9.
The point of the Saudi fatwa, however, is not that girls as young as 9 can have sex, based on Muhammad’s example, but rather that there is no age limit whatsoever; the only question open to consideration is whether the girl is physically capable of handling her husband/rapist. Fawzan documents this point by quoting Ibn Batal’s authoritative exegesis of Sahih Bukhari:
The ulema [Islam’s interpreters] have agreed that it is permissible for fathers to marry off their small daughters, even if they are in the cradle. But it is not permissible for their husbands to have sex with them unless they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the weight of the men. And their capability in this regard varies based on their nature and capacity. Aisha was 6 when she married the prophet, but he had sex with her when she was 9 [i.e., when she was deemed capable].
Fawzan concludes his fatwa with a warning: “It behooves those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not permit. For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his excusive right, to be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing marriage.”
Fawzan, of course, is not the first to insist on the legitimacy of pedophilia in Islam. Even the former grand mufti of Saudi Arabia supported “child-marriage,” since “the Koran and Sunna document it.”
Nor is this just some theoretical, theological point; the lives of many young girls are being destroyed because of this ruling. Recall, for instance, the 13-year-old girl who died while her much older husband was copulating with her (it was later revealed that, due to her reluctance, he was tying her up and “raping” her — as if there were another way to describe sex with children); or the 12-year-old who died giving birth to a stillborn; or the 10-year-old who made headlines by hiding out from her 80-year-old “husband.”
Then there are the countless anonymous girls who do nothing to warrant any media attention — such as die — and have learned to live with their elderly husbands pawing at them, like, no doubt, the girl who married Islam’s most popular cleric, Yusuf Qaradawi, when she was 14.
What do we make of the fact that it is always Islam’s religious, authoritative voices — not aberrant voices, not “terrorists,” “extremists,” or any other euphemism coined for the occasion — that are constantly demonstrating Sharia’s savageries? Weeks before this fatwa, a female politician and activist in Kuwait called for institutionalizing sex-slavery (recommending that Muslims buy and sell female Russian captives from the Chechnya war); a popular Egyptian preacher not only said the same thing, but added that the solution to Islam’s poverty is to go on jihad and plunder the lives and possessions of infidels.
Sounds odd? Perhaps; but it is perfectly consistent. After all, distilled and in the eyes of the non-believer, Sharia law is nothing less than a legal system built atop the words and deeds of a 7th century Arab, whose behavior — from pedophilia and sex-slavery to war mongering and plundering — was very much that of a 7th century Arab. Having enticed or enslaved his contemporaries into following him, his teachings continue to entice and enslave their descendants; and, now as then, it is always the innocent who suffer.”
Definitely proves Islam is a false and unloving religion.
Item #2
Islam's 1,400 Years of Approved Pedophile Practice:
INTRODUCTION:
Many women in Islam wear a veil, head covering, or tent (Burka) in what they claim to be to maintain moral purity, and look upon others not doing the same as sexually impure. But in reality this is only a hypocritical outward show as Islam has been guilty of gross pedophile practices for 1,400 years, i.e., from its founding. Its founder, for example, was sexually aroused by a six (6) year old female whom he wed and consummated his arousal when she was but nine (9) years of age.
Today, many in Islam still practice this pedophile practice with the approval from some of the top religious leaders in all of Islam. <<<"The Ayatollah Khomeini, in the 1970's even gave his consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against full penetration until the baby is a few years older)." [source - What does the Religion of Peace Teach About...The Sex Life of the Prophet, on 10/03/2007]
Now what is pedophilism? Let's look at an encyclopedia for a definition:
Pedophilia or pædophilia (see spelling differences) is a preferential or exclusive sexual attraction by adults to prepubescent youths. A person with this attraction is called a pedophile or paedophile. The ICD-10 and DSM IV, which are standard medical diagnosis manuals, currently describe pedophilia as a paraphilia and mental disorder of adults or older youths, if it causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
The term pedophile is also used colloquially to denote an adult who is sexually attracted to adolescents or youths below the local age of consent, as well as those accused or convicted of child sexual abuse or child pornography related offences.[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, on 10/03/2007].
Of course some will attempt to excuse pedophilism occurring in the Seventh century by saying that was the culture of that time and of course trying to dismiss wrong doing by saying it was the culture is a cop out since that could also be used to excuse the murderous practice of cannibalism which was part of the culture at that time of many tribes. But excuses do not make a wrong a right.
So let's face it, Islam who bills itself as the world's must sexually restrictive religion, actually had one of the most sexually indulgent individuals in all of history as its founder. Reality is that he had sex with just about anyone he pleased. He was married to up to eleven women at a time, and according to some accounts he relegated his many wives to either consecutive days or all in one night. He married a 6 year old girl and consummated it when she was 9 years old and even took his adopted son's wife for his own as she was sexually attractive to him. On top of that he had a multitude of slave girls and concubines - sometimes on the very day in which they watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of Muhammad's armies.[references - What does the Religion of Peace Teach About...The Sex Life of the Prophet, on 10/03/2007; and Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad, on 10/03/2007; and On Mary, Muhammad's Concubine, and Encyclopedia of Islamic Myths:
Muhammad's had no more than 4 wives, on 10/03/2007].
THE FOUNDER'S PEDOPHILISM:
Let's look at Muhammad's sexual struggle for Islam, just the facts:
<<<"A'isha: Mohammed's Nine-Year Old Wife, May 2007 version
Numerous people have said that Mohammed had sex with his youngest wife, 'Aisha, daughter of Abu Bakr, when he was about 53 and she was only nine years old. Some Muslims deny that. If somebody were to claim Mohammed and 'Aisha had sex when she was nine, and they were wrong, that would be a serious slander against Mohammed. On the other hand, if it were true, that would show a very different side of Mohammed that would shock many. So is this accusation against Mohammed true or false?
This paper will first give the evidence for A'isha being nine when her marriage was consummated, then raise 11 objections to this, and finally, ask what if each view were correct.
This is important to a widely practiced but overlooked practice today: child brides in Muslim lands due to Mohammed's example.
In Iran as of June 2002 it is legal for a 9 year old girl to marry with her parents' permission. Voices Behind the Veil p.136-137[source - A'isha: Mohammed's Nine-Year Old Wife,..." ] >>>.
And,
<<<"Marriage to Muhammad
Aisha was initially betrothed to Jubayr ibn Mut'im, a Muslim whose father, though pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. When Khawla bint Hakim suggested that Muhammad marry Aisha after the death of Muhammad's first wife (Khadijah bint Khuwaylid), the previous agreement regarding marriage of Aisha with ibn Mut'im was put aside by common consent.[2] Watt suggests that Muhammad hoped to strengthen his ties with Abu Bakr.[2]
Aisha was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad. She stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, when the marriage was consummated.[3][2][4][5] The marriage was delayed until after the Hijra, or migration to Medina, in 622. Aisha and her older sister Asma bint Abi Bakr only moved to Medina after Muhammad had already fled there. Abu Bakr gave Muhammad the money to build a house for himself. After this, the wedding was celebrated very simply. After the wedding, Aisha continued to play with her toys, and Muhammad entered into the spirit of these games.[6]...
Status as "favorite wife"
Even though the marriage may have been politically motivated, to mark the ties between Muhammad and his companion Abu Bakr, most early accounts say that Muhammad and Aisha became sincerely fond of each other. Aisha is usually described as Muhammad's favorite wife, and it was in her company that Muhammad reportedly received the most revelations.[1] Aisha is believed to have been Muhammad's only virgin wife at the time of marrige. They adduce the following episodes as proof that Muhammad and Aisha's marriage did not always go smoothly, and that Khadija's memory never left Muhammad.[reference notes: [1] ^ a b c d Goodwin, Jan. Price of Honour: Muslim Women Lift the Veil of Silence on the Islamic World. UK: Little, Brown Book Group, 1994 ^ a b c [2] Watt, Aisha, Encyclopedia of Islam Online ^ [3] Barlas (2002), p.125-126 [4] ^ Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234, 5:58:236, 7:62:64 7:62:65,7:62:88, Sahih Muslim 8:3309, 8:3310,8:3311,Sunnan Abu Dawud 41:4915, 41:4917 ^ [5] Tabari, Volume 9, Page 131; Tabari, Volume 7, Page 7 [6]^ Watt, Muhammad, Oxford University Press 1961, page 102.
][source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, on 10/03/2007].>>>.
And,
<<<"Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad by Ali Sina
The thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people. It is difficult to accept that the Holy Prophet married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old.
Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)"[source - Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad by Ali Sina, ] >>>.
Now, let's see what the Qur'an says on the subject:
In reading the Qur'an, it becomes rapidly apparent that "Allah" gave Muhammad quite a few "revelations" that okayed his abnormal sexual lust, but remember these are the words of the Qur'an for which Islam claims infallibility that generations of Muslims have memorized. Now let's consider a few of these from three different versions/translations of the Quran to ensure accuracy.
Sura 33:37:
YUSUFALI: Behold! Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favour: "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled.
PICKTHAL: And when thou saidst unto him on whom Allah hath conferred favour and thou hast conferred favour: Keep thy wife to thyself, and fear Allah. And thou didst hide in thy mind that which Allah was to bring to light, and thou didst fear mankind whereas Allah hath a better right that thou shouldst fear Him. So when Zeyd had performed that necessary formality (of divorce) from her, We gave her unto thee in marriage, so that (henceforth) there may be no sin for believers in respect of wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have performed the necessary formality (of release) from them. The commandment of Allah must be fulfilled.
SHAKIR: And when you said to him to whom Allah had shown favor and to whom you had shown a favor: Keep your wife to yourself and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; and you concealed in your soul what Allah would bring to light, and you feared men, and Allah had a greater right that you should fear Him. But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed.
[Okaying his taking his adoptive son's wife.]
Sura 33:50-51:
Sura 33:50; YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing WOMAN who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war, and the daughters of thine uncle on the father's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the father's side, and the daughters of thine uncle on the mother's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the mother's side who emigrated with thee, and a believing WOMAN if she give herself unto the Prophet and the Prophet desire to ask her in marriage - a privilege for thee only, not for the (rest of) believers - We are Aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess - that thou mayst be free from blame, for Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing WOMAN if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Sura 33:51; YUSUFALI: Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose (turn) thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them: and Allah knows (all) that is in your hearts: and Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.
PICKTHAL: Thou canst defer whom thou wilt of them and receive unto thee whom thou wilt, and whomsoever thou desirest of those whom thou hast set aside (temporarily), it is no sin for thee (to receive her again); that is better; that they may be comforted and not grieve, and may all be pleased with what thou givest them. Allah knoweth what is in your hearts (O men), and Allah is ever Forgiving, Clement.
SHAKIR: You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased, all of them with what you give them, and Allah knows what is in your hearts; and Allah is Knowing, Forbearing.
[making okay to marry about anyone whom he pleased regardless of age or even close family relationship.]
Sura 66:1-5:
Sura 66:1; YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives? And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: O Prophet! why do you forbid (yourself) that which Allah has made lawful for you; you seek to please your wives; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Sura 66:2; YUSUFALI: Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases): and Allah is your Protector, and He is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom.
PICKTHAL: Allah hath made lawful for you (Muslims) absolution from your oaths (of such a kind), and Allah is your Protector. He is the Knower, the Wise.
SHAKIR: Allah indeed has sanctioned for you the expiation of your oaths and Allah is your Protector, and He is the Knowing the Wise.
Sura 66:3; YUSUFALI: When the Prophet disclosed a matter in confidence to one of his consorts, and she then divulged it (to another), and Allah made it known to him, he confirmed part thereof and repudiated a part. Then when he told her thereof, she said, "Who told thee this? "He said, "He told me Who knows and is well-acquainted (with all things)."
PICKTHAL: When the Prophet confided a fact unto one of his wives and when she afterward divulged it and Allah apprised him thereof, he made known (to her) part thereof and passed over part. And when he told it her she said: Who hath told thee? He said: The Knower, the Aware hath told me.
SHAKIR: And when the prophet secretly communicated a piece of information to one of his wives-- but when she informed (others) of it, and Allah made him to know it, he made known part of it and avoided part; so when he informed her of it, she said: Who informed you of this? He said: The Knowing, the one Aware, informed me.
Sura 66:4; YUSUFALI: If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and Gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels - will back (him) up.
PICKTHAL: If ye twain turn unto Allah repentant, (ye have cause to do so) for your hearts desired (the ban); and if ye aid one another against him (Muhammad) then lo! Allah, even He, is his Protecting Friend, and Gabriel and the righteous among the believers; and furthermore the angels are his helpers.
SHAKIR: If you both turn to Allah, then indeed your hearts are already inclined (to this); and if you back up each other against him, then surely Allah it is Who is his Guardian, and Jibreel and -the believers that do good, and the angels after that are the aiders.
Sura 66:5; YUSUFALI: It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you,- who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- previously married or virgins.
PICKTHAL: It may happen that his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your stead wives better than you, submissive (to Allah), believing, pious, penitent, devout, inclined to fasting, widows and maids.
SHAKIR: Maybe, his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters, widows and virgins.
Sura 4:24:
YUSUFALI: Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
PICKTHAL: And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done). Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Wise.
SHAKIR: And all married women except those whom your right hands possess (this is) Allah's ordinance to you, and lawful for you are (all women) besides those, provided that you seek (them) with your property, taking (them) in marriage not committing fornication. Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed; and there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed; surely Allah is Knowing, Wise.
References that those interested should check out in the Hadiths:
Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad married Aisha at the age of nine.
Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.
Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house (something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).
Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.
Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she could sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?" Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an "older WOMAN" instead.
Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.
Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.
Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard to guess why.
Bukhari (5:268) - - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "[source reference - What does the Religion of Peace Teach About...The Sex Life of the Prophet, on 10/03/2007]
APPROVED PEDOPHILISM AMONG HIS FOLLOWERS TODAY:
We shall look at two cases that prove the practice of pedophilism is alive and well within Islam. But first, what a very important recent Muslim religious leader said on the subject, <<<"The Ayatollah Khomeini, in the 1970's even gave his consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against full penetration until the baby is a few years older)." [source - What does the Religion of Peace Teach About...The Sex Life of the Prophet, on 10/03/2007].
Now let's look at a case that Maureen an English girl living in the United Kingdom, and a member of the Anglican Church [Church of England] sent me, <<<"I recently viewed a shocking program about the status/condition of women in Afghanistan today. To see what I am talking about, go to:
then go to "Afghanistan unveiled.
Reporter: Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy Channel 4
Broadcast 24/09/2007
The documentary portrays the position of women today. An interview with a 14 year old girl who was married to an older male when she was 7 is sad enough to bring you to tears. Women stressed that conditions are much the same as when the Taliban were in full focus. Marriage with child brides is still common.
Go to the emails written in following the showing of the documentary. The hole thing is an eye-opener.
The following questions need to be answered:
1. What are the Muslim countries doing about this? Are not Muslim women disturbed about what they hear?
2. What are the Christian countries doing about this? We know it is going on, so how can we sit comfortably in our homes knowing what is happening to our sisters in Afghanistan?
In short, it is a shameful act that is still going on today and we are doing nothing about it." [sources - Maureen and "Afghanistan unveiled," at on 09/24/2007]
Or, <<<"Roshan Qasem, 11, will joing the household of Said Mohammed, 55; his first wife; their three sons; and their daughter, who is the same age as Roshan." [source - New York Times Magazine (c) 2006, ]>>>.
Or, <<<"Egypt, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Ethiopia, Pakistan, India, and the Middle East:[[All Muslim areas including those in India that are predominately Muslim.]] In the rural villages of these countries many young girls are rarely allowed out of their homes unless it is to work in the fields or to get married. ... Some families allow girls who are only 7 years old to marry. It is very unusual for a girl to reach the age of 16 and not be married." [source - Child Brides - The Problem of Early, Forced Marriage, ]>>>.
Or, <<<"Gulsoma, Afghan Child Bride Married at the Age of Four and Tortured, an Afghan girl was subjected to years of beatings and torture, finally escaping to discover that within all the world's cruelty, there is also some kindness.
"When I was three years old my father died, and after a year my mother married again, but her second husband didn't want me," says Gulsoma. "So my mother gave me away in a promise of marriage to our neighbor's oldest son, who was thirty."
"They had a ceremony in which I was placed on a horse [which is traditional in Afghanistan] and given to the man."
Because she was still a child, the marriage was not expected to be sexually consummated. But within a year, Gulsoma learned that so much else would be required of her that she would become a virtual slave in the household.
At the age of five, she was forced to take care of not only her "husband" but also his parents and all 12 of their other children as well.
Though nearly the entire family participated in the abuse, her father-in-law, she says, was the cruelest.
Gulsoma was then brought to a Kabul orphanage, where she lives today. She takes off her baseball cap and shows us a bald spot, almost like a medieval monk's tonsure, on the crown of her head where she was scalded.
She then turns her back and raises her shirt to reveal a sad map of scar tissue and keloids from cuts, bruises and the boiling water.
"My father-in-law asked me to do everything - laundry, the household chores - and the only time I was able to sleep in the house was when they had guests over," she says. "Other than that I would have to sleep outside on a piece of carpet without even any blankets. In the summer it was okay. But in the winter a neighbor would come over and give me a blanket, and sometimes some food."
When she couldn't keep up with the workload, Gulsoma says, she was beaten constantly.
"They beat me with electric wires," she says, "mostly on the legs. My father-in-law told his other children to do it that way so the injuries would be hidden. He said to them, 'break her bones, but don't hit her on the face.'"
There were even times when the family's abuse of Gulsoma transcended the bounds of the most wanton, sadistic cruelty, as on the occasions when they used her as a human tabletop, forcing her to lie on her stomach then cutting their food on her bare back.
Gulsoma says the family had one boy her age, named Atiqullah, who refused to take part in her torture.
"He would sneak me food sometimes and when my mother-in-law told him to find a stick to beat me, he would come back say he couldn't find one," she says. "He would try to stop the others sometimes. He would say 'she is my sister, and this is sinful.' Sometimes I think about him and wish he could be here and I wish I could have him as my brother."
One evening, Gulsoma says, when her father-in-law saw the neighbor giving her food and a blanket, he took them away and beat her mercilessly. Then, she says, he locked her in a shed for two months.
"I would be kept there all day," she says, "then at night they would let me go the bathroom and I would be fed one time each day. Most of the time it was only bread and sometimes some beans."[source - Mainstream Iowan, on 10/03/2007]>>>.
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CONCLUSION:
As can readily be seen, being a pedophile has been an accepted practice within Islam starting with its founder and continuing until today. Of course some will try and pass this evil off by saying that is just culture, but as I said in the introduction, <<<" Of course some will attempt to excuse pedophilism occurring in the Seventh century by saying that was the culture of that time and of course trying to dismiss wrong doing by saying it was the culture is a cop out since that could also be used to excuse the murderous practice of cannibalism which was part of the culture at that time of many tribes. But excuses do not make a wrong a right.
So let's face it, Islam who bills itself as the world's must sexually restrictive religion, actually had one of the most sexually indulgent individuals in all of history as its founder. Reality is that he had sex with just about anyone he pleased. He was married to up to eleven women at a time, and according to some accounts he relegated his many wives to either consecutive days or all in one night. He married a 6 year old girl and consummated it when she was 9 years old and even took his adopted son's wife for his own as she was sexually attractive to him. On top of that he had a multitude of slave girls and concubines - sometimes on the very day in which they watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of Muhammad's armies.[references - What does the Religion of Peace Teach About...The Sex Life of the Prophet, on 10/03/2007; and Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad, on 10/03/2007; and On Mary, Muhammad's Concubine, and Encyclopedia of Islamic Myths:
Muhammad's had no more than 4 wives, on 10/03/2007].">>>
So now a pertinent question, how could anyone possibly be a true prophet and commit such wrong practices against innocent children.
Item #3
Many in the Perverted Religion of Islam Favor Pedophiles and Practice Marrying Children – Islam Does NOT Protect Female Children Against Pedophiles:
It is well known within Islam that pedophiles practice marrying young children, but no action is taken by Islam’s clergy to punish and throw out these evil pedophiles. But this should come as no surprise as Islam has never cleaned house of wicked and evil individuals and/or groups.
First, The world we live in is ruled by the wicked one as testified to by 1 John 5:19, “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.” (Authorized King James Bible; AV). If we pick up a newspaper in any country, we find reports of cruelty and violence on an unprecedented scale. Man’s inhumanity to man is troubling for a righteous person to contemplate as testified to at Ecclesiastes 8:9, “All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.” (AV).
Second, Most individuals and/or groups seek to avoid responsibility for their own actions rather than take corrective actions. This also applies to so called religious groups that seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for the wrong actions of members, but fail, willingly, to take action against these wrong doers by purging themselves of these wicked ones.
Islam is the most salient offender in this regard and especially with respect female children since its founder was himself a pedophile who took a child bride at the age of six (6) and compensated it at the age of nine (9).
Here is a brief account of this pedophile act. “According to the traditional sources, Aisha was six or seven years old when she was engaged to Muhammad and nine when the marriage was consummated.[2][4][5] American historian Denise Spellberg states that "these specific references to the bride's age reinforce Aisha's pre-menarcheal status and, implicitly, her virginity."[4] This issue of her virginity was of great importance to those who supported Aisha's position in the debate of the succession to Muhammad. These supporters considered that as Muhammad's only virgin wife, Aisha was divinely intended for him, and therefore the most credible regarding the debate.[6][1]
Sources for proof of this statement by
1.
2. ^ a b c d Watt, "Aisha", Encyclopedia of Islam Online
3. ^ Amira Sonbol, Rise of Islam: 6th to 9th century, Encyclopedia of Women and Islamic Cultures
4. ^ a b c d e f g h D. A. Spellberg, Politics, Gender, and the Islamic Past: the Legacy of A'isha bint Abi Bakr, Columbia University Press, 1994, p. 40
5. ^ a b Karen Armstrong, Muhammad: A Biography of the Prophet, Harper San Francisco, 1992, p. 157.
6. ^ Spellberg, p. 34–40.
Many in Islam justify the practice of pedophilism on the grounds that it was practiced by their leader, Muhammad, as was clearly covered in the June 2011 issue of National Geographic entitled “Child Brides – Too Young to Wed” starting on Page 79 – all should read it.
BRIEF NEED ON NEED TO CLEAN HOUSE:
If a religion fails to clean house, as Islam does, of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suscide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who was a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.
Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.
LET’S LOOK AT THE CASE OF ONE CHILD BRIDE, NUJOOD ALI
Nujood Ali (born 1998) is a figure of Yemen's fight against forced marriage. At the age of ten, she obtained a divorce, breaking with the tribal tradition.[1]HYPERLINK \l "cite_note-Walt2009-1"[2] In November 2008, U.S. women's magazine Glamour designated Nujood Ali and her lawyer Shada Nasser as Women of the Year.[2]HYPERLINK \l "cite_note-Power2009-2"[3] Ali's courage was praised by prominent women including Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice.[4]
Ali's lawyer Shada Nasser, born in 1964, is a feminist and specialist in human rights, whose involvement in Ali's case received much acclaim.[3]HYPERLINK \l "cite_note-Madabish2009-4"[5]
Nujood Ali was ten when her parents arranged a marriage to Faez Ali Thamer, a man in his 30's. Regularly beaten by her in-laws and raped by her husband, Ali escaped on April 2, 2008, two months after the wedding. On the advice of her step-mother, she went directly to court to seek a divorce. After waiting for half a day, she was noticed by a judge, Mohammed al-g?adha, who took it upon himself to host her temporarily and had both her father and husband taken into custody.[6]
Shada Nasser agreed to defend Ali. For the lawyer, it was the continuation of a struggle begun with the installation of her practice in Sana'a, which she opened in the 1990s, and which was the first law office headed by a woman in Yemen. She built her customer base by offering services to female prisoners.[5]
Yemeni law allows girls of any age to wed, but it forbids sex with them until an indefinite time when they’re considered "suitable for sexual intercourse." In court, Nasser argued that Ali’s marriage violated the law, since she was raped.[3] Ali rejected the judge's proposal of resuming living with her husband after a break of three to five years.[3] On April 15, 2008,[7] the court granted her a divorce.[3]
After the trial, Ali rejoined her family in a suburb of Sana'a. She returned to school in the fall of 2008 with plans to become a lawyer.[8] After the publication of her memoir in 2009, revenues from international sales of the book were supposed to help pay for her schooling, but she did not attend on a regular basis.[9] Due to subsequent negative press coverage about Yemen, Ali's passport was confiscated in March 2009 and she was prevented from attending the Women's World Award in Vienna, Austria. Media reports also questioned whether proceeds from the book were actually making it to the family.[10]
However, as of 2010 Ali's family is living in a new two-story home bought with the help of her French publisher and running a grocery store on the first floor. Ali and her younger sister are attending private school full-time.[9]
The English-language version of the memoir was published in March 2010. Introducing the work, New York Times op-ed columnist Nicholas Kristof praised the work done to raise awareness regarding the societal problems, such as terrorism, associated with polygamy and child marriage, saying, "little girls like Nujood may prove more effective than missiles at defeating terrorists."[11] Indeed, publicity surrounding Ali's case is said to have inspired efforts to annul other child marriages, including that of an eight-year-old Saudi girl who was allowed to divorce a middle-aged man in 2009, after her father forced her to marry him the year before in exchange for about $13,000. [12] [11]HYPERLINK \l "cite_note-BBCNews24Aug2008-12"[13]HYPERLINK \l "cite_note-BBCNews30Apr2009-13"[14]
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^ a b Hersh, Joshua (4 March 2010), A TEN-YEAR-OLD’S DIVORCE LAWYER, The New Yorker, retrieved March 4, 2010.
^ Bobi, Emil (14 March 2009). "Kleine große Frau: profil besuchte die zehnjährige Jemenitin Nojoud Ali in Sanaa [Little big woman: Profil visits the ten-year old Yemeni Ali Nojoud in Sanaa]" (in (German)). Profil (Austrian news magazine). Retrieved April 10, 2010.
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[source - retrieved from on 6/03/2011]
Here is a brief excerpt from Times on this case of Nujood Ali, “Slender with thick hair and a shy smile, Ali made headlines in Yemen last April when she walked out on a man more than three times her age, to whom her father had married her off. It was an act driven by terror and despair. (See the top 10 crime stories of 2008.) Read more: ,8599,1876652,00.html#ixzz1OEEGkErR [source - retrieved from ,8599,1876652,00.html on / /2011]
For more details about Nujood Ali, go to the following.
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For even more information, do an internet search and see the horrible truth.
CONCLUSION AND REALITY:
Nugood Ali’s case is not an anomaly but just one example of a wide spread practice among members of Islam as was brought out in the June 2011 issue of National Geographic entitled “Child Brides – Too Young to Wed” starting on Page 79, and in many other publications and news sources as any quick internet search will readily reveal.
In fact the prophet’s own perverted words clearly show he was a determined pedophile that even dreamed of marrying children, “Narrated 'Aisha: That the Prophet said to her, "You have been shown to me twice in my dream. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk and some-one said (to me). 'This is your wife.' When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, 'If this is from Allah, it will be done.,” in respect to the young female child, Aisha. [source - retrieved from 'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Aisha on 5/03/2011] [[Note: for additional information on this, check out Hadith at Sahih Bukhari 5:58:235, See Also Sahih Bukhari 9:87:140 ]]
Now any religion that would follow an evil and wicked pedophile probably will NEVER clean house of wicked and evil men, but find any and many excuses for failure to do so.
Item #4
Pedophilism Is Regarded As Okay In Much Of Islam Who Follows A Pedophile Leader
INTRODUCTION:
It is sickening to even consider an adult man being sexually aroused by a six (6) year old, and brands such a man as a wicked and sick pedophile. The mere thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people. Yet many regard young female children as commodities to be sold or traded to pedophiles within their society.
Why, probably because they accept a pedophile as their religious leader and because in their present society there are so many pedophiles that they in their warped view of what is right and wrong look on pedophilism as okay.
It is difficult to accept that the "Holy Prophet?" married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old. But this is reality and well documented. His cult followers of today attempt to just his pedophilism and that of his modern day followers with uncalled for lies such as the following:
<<<" Pedophilia with 3-year old slave girls in the Bible!
Forcing 3-year old slave girls into sex during the Mosaic Law in the Bible! (click here)"[source - ]>>>
However, when you 'click here' instead of going to proof for these preposterous lies, it takes you to,
<<<" As Muslims, we do not embrace the pedophilia, rape, terrorism and all of the other forms of evil that exist in the Bible, nor do we believe that the Prophets of Allah Almighty, peace and blessings be upon all of them, ever committed such cruel acts that are falsely attributed to them.
We're only exposing the corrupted bible and the evil that exists in it.">>>.
As can easily be seen, all it leads you to is more false accusations and lies, BUT not to one shred of backup for such false claims. NOT one scripture or piece of historic backup is given. Why? Because none of the charges have any validity - they are just outright lies or if given in a court of law would simply be labeled perjury.
In fact, as will be shown in this research product by hard evidence the following:
[1] The (false) Prophet Muhammad was indeed a pedophile and was sexually aroused by a six year old and had sexual relations with her at nine years old at first menstrual bleed.
[2] That members of Islam are treating very young females as a commodity to be traded off to sexual perverts, pedophiles, for money, to settle feuds, etc.
[3] Courts and the authorities in lands ruled by Islamic rulers do NOT try and stop such evil pedophile practices under the guise that their pedophile leader did this wrong so it is okay.
Now let's start looking at this wickedness of pedophilism within Islam today. Now some may say, why not start out with the (false) Prophet and proving his pedophilism, but the writer of this article feels it better to start with current reality rather than ancient, 7 th. Century, reality.
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CURRENT REALITH OF PEDOPHILISM WITHIN THE ISLAMIC CULT:
Actually, this wicked practice of pedophilism is so wide spread in Islam, it is difficult to know where to start, but I have decided to start with a case of a very bold young girl given to a pedophile by her father for 'marriage' and her breakaway from this rape situation as reported in the New York Times.
The New York Times published an article, "Tiny Voices Defy Child Marriage in Yemen," about a stunning act of courage and feminism: in the nation of Yemen, a 9-year-old girl named Arwa Abdu Muhammad Ali, on her own initiative, sought and obtained a divorce from the abusive, violent 35-year-old man she had been forcibly married to. Her success echoes that of a 10-year-old girl, Nujood Ali, who escaped a similar arranged marriage a month earlier.
...despite a rising tide of outrage, the fight against the practice is not easy. Hard-line Islamic conservatives, whose influence has grown enormously in the past two decades, defend it, pointing to the Prophet Muhammad's marriage to a 9-year-old. Child marriage is deeply rooted in local custom here, and even enshrined in an old tribal expression: "Give me a girl of 8, and I can give you a guarantee" for a good marriage. (Shades of the Jesuits: "Give me the child until he is seven, and I will show you the man" -Ebonmuse)
Inequality imbues the very air of this society, which makes it all the more noteworthy that some women have begun to fight back. In interviews, the article hints at the amazing maturity of these girls - children thrust into a situation that seemed far beyond their ken, far beyond any possibility of resistance, who nevertheless fought back and won.
...It was the first time she had traveled anywhere alone, Nujood recalled, and she was frightened. On arriving at the courthouse, she was told the judge was busy, so she sat on a bench and waited. Suddenly he was standing over her, imposing in his dark robes. "You're married?" he said, with shock in his voice.
...When Nujood's case was called the next Sunday, the courtroom was crowded with reporters and photographers, alerted by her lawyer. Her father and husband were also there; the judge had jailed them the night before to ensure that they would appear in court. (Both were released the next day.) "Do you want a separation, or a permanent divorce?" the judge, Muhammad al-Qadhi, asked the girl, after hearing her testimony and that of her father and her husband.
"I want a permanent divorce," she replied, without hesitation. The judge granted it.
...For their age, their courage and determination is astounding. It may well be that these girls succeeded because they are children, and haven't yet internalized the ideas of female oppression and inequality that are pervasive in their culture. Of course, they also had a major stroke of good fortune: both of them found sympathetic judges, rather than Islamic conservatives whose minds were warped by dogma and who probably would have sent them back to their abusive husbands. Now the details from the New York Times article.
<<<[ ] New York Times, JIBLA, Yemen - One morning last month, Arwa Abdu Muhammad Ali walked out of her husband's house here and ran to a local hospital, where she complained that he had been beating and sexually abusing her for eight months.
...Bryan Denton for The New York Times,
Nujood's father, Ali Muhammad al-Ahdal, who has 16 children, said that, with no husband, Nujood could have been abducted.
That alone would be surprising in Yemen, a deeply conservative Arab society where family disputes tend to be solved privately. What made it even more unusual was that Arwa was 9 years old.
Within days, Arwa - a tiny, delicate-featured girl - had become a celebrity in Yemen, where child marriage is common but has rarely been exposed in public. She was the second child bride to come forward in less than a month; in April, a 10-year-old named Nujood Ali had gone by herself to a courthouse to demand a divorce, generating a landmark legal case.
Together, the two girls' stories have helped spur a movement to put an end to child marriage [[To satisfy the needs of pedophiles]], which is increasingly seen as a crucial part of the cycle of poverty in Yemen and other third world countries. Pulled out of school and forced to have children before their bodies are ready, many rural Yemeni women end up illiterate and with serious health problems. Their babies are often stunted, too.
The average age of marriage in Yemen's rural areas is 12 to 13, a recent study by Sana University researchers found. The country, at the southern corner of the Arabian Peninsula, has one of the highest maternal mortality rates in the world.
"This is the first shout," said Shada Nasser, a human rights lawyer who met Nujood, the 10-year-old, after she arrived at the courthouse to demand a divorce. Ms. Nasser decided instantly to take her case. "All other early marriage cases have been dealt with by tribal sheiks [[Under Shariah Law which was basically written by a pedophile.]], and the girl never had any choice.[[Reality, a chance as their forced rape was called marriage]]"
But despite a rising tide of outrage, the fight against the practice is not easy. Hard-line Islamic conservatives, whose influence has grown enormously in the past two decades, defend it, pointing to the Prophet Muhammad's marriage to a 9-year-old [[The practices of a pedophile are used for the continuation of pedophilic practices - how unbelievable and wicked.]]. Child marriage is deeply rooted in local custom here, and even enshrined in an old tribal expression: "Give me a girl of 8, and I can give you a guarantee" for a good marriage [[Girl in effect becomes a sex slave.]].
"Voices are rising in society against this phenomenon and its catastrophes," said Shawki al-Qadhi, an imam and opposition member in Parliament who has tried unsuccessfully to muster support for a legal ban on child marriage in Yemen in the past. "But despite rejections of it by many people and some religious scholars, it continues."
The issue first arose because of Nujood, a bright-eyed girl barely four feet tall. Her ordeal began in February, when her father took her from Sana, the Yemeni capital, to his home village for the wedding. She was given almost no warning [[Or any say in the matter as the pedophile in all probability had bought her from her father.]].
"I was very frightened and worried," Nujood recalled, speaking in a soft, childlike voice as she sat cross-legged on the floor in her family's bare three-room home in a slum not far from Sana's airport. "I wanted to go home."
As she told her story, Nujood gradually gained confidence, smiling shyly as if she were struggling to hold back laughter. Later, she removed her veil, revealing her shoulder-length brown hair.
The trouble started on the first night, when her 30-year-old husband, Faez Ali Thamer, took off her clothes as soon as the light was out. She ran crying from the room, but he caught her, brought her back and forced himself on her. Later, he beat her as well [[Well obviously in Islam rape is sanctioned by pedophiles.]].
"I hated life with him," she said, staring at the ground in front of her. The wedding came so quickly that no one bothered to tell her how women become pregnant, or what a wife's role is, she added [[Why? Because young females are a commodity to be traded to pedophiles for something by poor families and/or families needing political favors.]].
Her father, Ali Muhammad al-Ahdal, said he had agreed to the marriage because two of Nujood's older sisters had been kidnapped and forcibly married [[Obviously many in Islam view young girls as a commodity that pedophiles either buy/trade for or just plain kidnap.]], with one of them ending up in jail. Mr. Ahdal said he had feared the same thing would happen to Nujood, and early marriage had seemed a better alternative.
A gaunt, broken-looking man, Mr. Ahdal once worked as a street sweeper. Now he and his family beg for a living. He has 16 children by two women.
Poverty is one reason so many Yemeni families marry their children off early. Another is the fear of girls being carried off and married by force [[Obviously many in Islam view young girls as a commodity that pedophiles either buy/trade for or just plain kidnap. So many families just sell/trade them to pedophiles.]],....
Nujood complained repeatedly to her husband's relatives and later to her own parents after the couple moved back to their house in Sana. But they said they could do nothing. To break a marriage would expose the family to shame [[The sum paid for her would have to be returned with penalties, i.e., just plain out and out rape.]]. Finally, her uncle told her to go to court. On April 2, she said, she walked out of the house by herself and hailed a taxi.
It was the first time she had traveled anywhere alone, Nujood recalled, and she was frightened. On arriving at the courthouse, she was told the judge was busy, so she sat on a bench and waited. Suddenly he was standing over her, imposing in his dark robes. "You're married?" he said, with shock in his voice.
Right away, he invited her to spend the night at his family's house, she said, since court sessions were already over for the day. There, she spent hours watching television, something she had never known in her family's slum apartment, which lacks even running water.
When Nujood's case was called the next Sunday, the courtroom was crowded with reporters and photographers, alerted by her lawyer. Her father and husband were also there; the judge had jailed them the night before to ensure that they would appear in court. (Both were released the next day.) "Do you want a separation, or a permanent divorce?" the judge, Muhammad al-Qadhi, asked the girl, after hearing her testimony and that of her father and her husband.
"I want a permanent divorce," she replied, without hesitation. The judge granted it.
Afterward, Ms. Nasser, the lawyer, took Nujood to a celebratory party at the offices of a local newspaper, where she was showered with dolls and other toys. Nujood lived with her uncle for a time after the ruling but then insisted on returning to her father's house. "I have forgiven him," she said. She swears she will never marry again, and she wants to become a human rights lawyer, like Ms. Nasser, or perhaps a journalist.
Despite the victory, Ms. Nasser and other advocates say they are worried about the lack of legal means to fight early marriage [[The pedophile rapist is never jailed it seems since the pedophile (false) prophet set the example, and deluded followers of this cult leader do NOT want to go against precedence set by this cult leader pedophile]]. Nujood's case only reached the court because she took such a wildly unusual step and happened on a sympathetic judge.
"We were lucky with this judge," Ms. Nasser said. "Another judge might not have accepted her in court, and would have asked her father or brother to come instead," and Nujood would probably still be married today [[To a pedophile rapist]].
A 1992 Yemeni law set the minimum legal age of marriage at 15. But in 1998 Parliament revised it, allowing girls to be married earlier as long as they did not move in with their husbands until they reached sexual maturity.
That change reflected the triumph of northern Yemen's more conservative Islamic culture over the secular and Marxist south after North and South Yemen united in 1990. In South Yemen, the government had passed a law in 1979 setting the age of marriage at 16 for women and 18 for men. An extensive public awareness campaign, including songs and television spots with titles like "The Victimized Daughter of the Tribe" and "Traditions and Rituals" helped educate people about the dangers posed by early marriage and pregnancy.
But in Yemen, as in Afghanistan - another country where child marriage is common - the fight against Communism ended with the triumph of a hard-line form of Islam. After war broke out in 1994, Ali Abdullah Saleh, then North Yemen's leader, sent jihadists to fight South Yemen. Critics say he has become politically indebted to conservative Islamists.
After Nujood's case became public, Ms. Nasser said she received angry letters from conservative women [[To stupid to realize they have been victimized]] denouncing her for her role. But she has also begun receiving calls about girls, some younger than Nujood, trying to escape their marriages.
One of them was Arwa, who was married last year at the age of 8 here in the ancient town of Jibla, four hours south of Sana. As with Nujood's case, Arwa's situation aroused a legal and social outrage.
Standing outside a relative's house here, her hands clasped in front of her, Arwa described how surprised she was when her father arranged her marriage to a 35-year-old man eight months ago. Like Nujood, she did not know the facts of life, she said. The man raped and beat her [[And what else would you expect a pedophile to do?]].
Finally, after months of misery, she ran to a hospital. Employees there took her to a police station, she said. A local judge, on receiving her case, briefly jailed the judge who had approved the marriage contract. Arwa is living with relatives while her case awaits a resolution. But her relatives rarely let her out of the house, fearing that her husband, who has refused the judge's demands that he appear in court, may take her again...[source - ]>>>.
And another case in another Islamic country which will show many pedophiles are also sadist and belong to sadist families:
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KABUL, Afghanistan - Eleven-year old Gulsoma lay in a heap on the ground in front of her father-in-law. He told her that if she didn't find a missing watch by the next morning he would kill her. He almost had already. Enraged about the missing watch, Gulsoma's father-in-law had beaten her repeatedly with a stick. She was bleeding from wounds all over her body and her right arm and right foot had been broken.
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Married at the age of four, an Afghan girl was subjected to years of beatings and torture, finally escaping to discover that within all the world's cruelty, there is also some kindness.
Enraged about the missing watch, Gulsoma's father-in-law had beaten her repeatedly with a stick. She was bleeding from wounds all over her body and her right arm and right foot had been broken.
She knew at that moment that if she didn't get away, he would make good on his promise to kill her.
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When I meet her at the Ministry of Women's Affairs I'm surprised that the little girl, now 12, is the same one that had endured such horrible suffering. She is wearing a red baseball cap and an orange scarf. She has beautiful brown eyes and a full and animated smile. She takes one of my hands in both of hers and greets me warmly, without any hint of shyness.
"She looks healthy," says Haroon, my friend and translator. I nod. But she looks older than her years, we both agree. In orphanages - first in Kandahar, then in Kabul - she has had a year to recover from a lifetime's worth of unimaginable imprisonment, deprivation and torture.
In one of the ministry's offices she sits in a straight-backed wooden chair and tells us the story of her life so far. She is stoic for the most part, pausing only a few times to wipe her eyes and nose with her scarf.
Her story begins in the village of Mullah Allam Akhound, near Kandahar.
"When I was three years old my father died, and after a year my mother married again, but her second husband didn't want me," says Gulsoma. "So my mother gave me away in a promise of marriage to our neighbor's oldest son, who was thirty."
"They had a ceremony in which I was placed on a horse [which is traditional in Afghanistan] and given to the man."
Because she was still a child, the marriage was not expected to be sexually consummated. But within a year, Gulsoma learned that so much else would be required of her that she would become a virtual slave in the household.
At the age of five, she was forced to take care of not only her "husband" but also his parents and all 12 of their other children as well.
Though nearly the entire family participated in the abuse, her father-in-law, she says, was the cruelest.
"My father-in-law asked me to do everything - laundry, the household chores - and the only time I was able to sleep in the house was when they had guests over," she says. "Other than that I would have to sleep outside on a piece of carpet without even any blankets. In the summer it was okay. But in the winter a neighbor would come over and give me a blanket, and sometimes some food [[Slaves were usually treated much better than this]]."
When she couldn't keep up with the workload, Gulsoma says, she was beaten constantly.
Gulsoma's scars:
"They beat me with electric wires," she says, "mostly on the legs. My father-in-law told his other children to do it that way so the injuries would be hidden. He said to them, 'break her bones, but don't hit her on the face.'"
There were even times when the family's abuse of Gulsoma transcended the bounds of the most wanton, sadistic cruelty, as on the occasions when they used her as a human tabletop, forcing her to lie on her stomach then cutting their food on her bare back.
Gulsoma says the family had one boy her age, named Atiqullah, who refused to take part in her torture.
"He would sneak me food sometimes and when my mother-in-law told him to find a stick to beat me, he would come back say he couldn't find one," she says. "He would try to stop the others sometimes. He would say 'she is my sister, and this is sinful.' Sometimes I think about him and wish he could be here and I wish I could have him as my brother."
One evening, Gulsoma says, when her father-in-law saw the neighbor giving her food and a blanket, he took them away and beat her mercilessly. Then, she says, he locked her in a shed for two months.
"I would be kept there all day," she says, "then at night they would let me go the bathroom and I would be fed one time each day. Most of the time it was only bread and sometimes some beans."
She says every day she was locked in the shed, she wished and prayed that her parents would come and take her away. Then she would remember that her father was dead and her mother was gone.
But Gulsoma had an inner strength even her father-in-law couldn't comprehend.
"When he came to the shed he kept asking me, 'Why don't you die? I imprisoned you, I give you less food, but still you don't die.'"
But it wasn't for lack of trying. Gulsoma said when her father-in-law finally let her out of the shed, he bound her hands behind her back and beat her unconscious. She says he revived her by pouring a tea thermos filling with scalding water over her head and her back.
"It was so painful," she says, dabbing her eyes with her scarf and sniffling for a moment. "I was crying and screaming the entire time."
Five days later, she says, her father in law gave her a vicious beating when his daughter's wristwatch went missing.
"He thought I stole it," she says, "and he beat me all over my body with his stick. He broke my arm and my foot. He said if I didn't find it by the next day, he would kill me."
She crawled away that night and hid under a rickshaw. When the rickshaw driver found Gulsoma, broken and bleeding, he listened to her story and took her to the police. She was hospitalized immediately.
"The doctor at the hospital who treated me said, 'I wish I could take you to the village square and show all the people what happened to you, so no one would ever do something like this again,'" Gulsoma says.
It took her a full month to recover from her last beating. But the fear and psychological trauma may never go away.
"I was happy to have a bed and food at the hospital," she says. "But I was thinking that when I get better they will give me back to the family."
However, Gulsoma says when the police questioned the family, the father-in-law lied and tried to tell them she had epilepsy and had fallen down and hurt herself. But the neighbor who had helped Gulsoma confirmed the story of her beatings and torture.
The police arrested her father-in-law and "husband." They told her, she says, they would keep them in jail unless she asked for their release.
"Everyone was crying when they heard my story," Gulsoma says.
Gulsoma says she stayed at an orphanage in Kandahar, but was the only girl in the facility. Eventually, her story was brought to the attention of the Ministry of Women's Affairs.
The toll of torture:
Gulsoma was then brought to a Kabul orphanage, where she lives today. She takes off her baseball cap and shows us a bald spot, almost like a medieval monk's tonsure, on the crown of her head where she was scalded.
She then turns her back and raises her shirt to reveal a sad map of scar tissue and keloids from cuts, bruises and the boiling water.
Haroon and I look at each other with disbelief. Her life's tragic story is etched upon her back.
Yet she continues to smile. She doesn't ask for pity. She seems more concerned about us as she reads the shock on our faces.
"I feel better now," she says. "I have friends at the orphanage. But every night I'm still afraid the family will come here and pick me up."
Gulsoma also says that when the sun goes down, she sometimes begins to shiver involuntarily - a reaction to the seven years of sleeping outdoors, sometimes in the bitter cold of the desert night.
She says she believes there are other girls like her in Kandahar, maybe elsewhere in Afghanistan, and that she wants to study human rights and one day go back to help them.
As we walk outside to take some pictures, I ask her if, after all she's been through, she thinks it will be harder to trust, to believe that there are actually good people in the world.
"No," she says, quickly.
"I didn't expect anyone would help me but God. I was really surprised that there were also nice people: the neighbor, the rickshaw driver, the police," she says. "I pray for those who helped release me."
Looking directly into the camera, she smiles as if nothing bad had ever happened to her in her entire life.
"I think that all people are good people," she says, "except for those that hurt me."
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Young females considered a commodity less valuable than dogs when given to pedophiles:
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June 05, 2008
15 MUSLIM CHILD BRIDES USED AS PAYMENT FOR DEATH OF DOG
How many times has the Western World been chastised, denounced as Islamophobic and threatened by muslims, for saying that the muslim religion is "HYPERLINK " on pedophilia"? If this taboo subject, abhorred by ALL Western nations, has no place in Islam then why are little girls - ages between 3 - 10 years old - considered old enough to be bartered (for a dead dog) as marriageable = brides??
Whereas it is commendable that some government officials, in Pakistan, are voicing their outrage-- the HYPERLINK " of the source of the mindset that foments much of the muslim population to consider the use of little girls (referred to in article as "ladies") as chattel capable of performing "wifely" duties [[For sexual perverts known as pedophiles.]] - though "unspeakable" is clear.
entire article - emphasis mine
HYPERLINK " CHILD BRIDES USED TO SETTLE PAKISTAN FEUD
* HYPERLINK " Walsh in Islamabad
* HYPERLINK " Guardian,
* Thursday June 5 2008
* Article history
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It started with a dead dog, escalated into a tit-for-tat tribal war, and has now reached a grotesque climax with the exchange of 15 child brides [[For sexual perverts known as pedophiles in the other tribe.]].
Pakistani human rights activists are outraged at reports that a long-running blood feud in a remote corner of western Baluchistan province has been resolved by the handing over of 15 girls, aged between three and 10, for marriage [[To sexual perverts known as pedophiles in the other tribe.]].
"There has to be action," said Asma Jahangir, a leading rights campaigner. "These people who force others to sell their daughters [[To Islamic pedophiles.]] must be sent to prison."
The new government in Islamabad, led by the party of the late Benazir Bhutto, has promised to act. "We will not allow young girls to be traded like this [[To pedophiles to work out their perverted sexual and sadistic pleasures]]," said the information minister, Sherry Rehman. "The culprits who tried to do this will be arrested. The orders have been given."
But Jahangir said those orders had not been acted upon. "There is a dysfunction in the whole system. They are not listening to the government," she said. "We need to see them being more effective than just rhetoric."
Vanni, an ancient tribal practice in which feuding clans settle their differences by exchanging women for marriage, is illegal in Pakistan. In 2004 the Sindh high court outlawed all such "parallel justice" [[But Shirah law still holds with all its injustices.]] systems. But the writ of government is weak in rural areas, and local police often turn a blind eye.
The current controversy started with a row over a dog, said Muhammad Paryal Marri, a researcher in northern Sindh for the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.
A dog owned by one tribe, the Chakranis, was shot dead because it strayed too close to a well controlled by their rivals, the Qalandaris. In revenge the Chakranis shot a donkey belonging to the other side. A ferocious bout of tit-for-tat killings ensued in which 19 people, including five women, were killed.
The fighting ended in 2002 when Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti - a rebellious tribal chieftain who was later killed by the Pakistan army - brought the two sides together. Bugti ordered the Chakranis to hand over 15 child brides in compensation [[Why not as the leader of the cult, Islam, they belonged to was a pervert who, in keeping with the lust of pedophiles for young female children, actually married a six (6) year old and consummated it at nine (9) after her first mensal bleed, setting a perverted example to follow]]; at a jirga, or tribal council. Last Friday they finally agreed to make good on that promise, said Marri.
"They agreed to pay some money and exchange the ladies," he said.
Such brutal traditions have only come to light for a broader public in the past decade, thanks to activism by human rights groups and publicity from local media...
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In some countries controlled by Islam, many members of this cult even murder their daughters or force them to commit suicide because they have been force ably raped. To read about this, go to:
[1] Murder of One's Daughter Tacitly Approved by Islam at,
THE FALSE PROPHET PEDOPHILE WITH EVIDENCE:
As said in the introduction, "It is sickening to even consider an adult man being sexually aroused by a six (6) year old, and brands such a man as a wicked and sick pedophile. The mere thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people. Yet many regard young female children as commodities to be sold or traded to pedophiles within their society.
Why, probably because they accept a pedophile as their religious leader and because in their present society there are so many pedophiles that they in their warped view of what is right and wrong look on pedophilism as okay.
It is difficult to accept that the "Holy Prophet?" married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old. But this is reality and well documented. His cult followers of today attempt to just his pedophilism and that of his modern day followers with uncalled for lies and cover up of the truth, but their own Hadiths 'out them.'
Now for individuals who have not had much contact with Islam, one encyclopedia defines 'Hadith' as follows:
<<<" Hadith (?????? transliteration: al-?adith, pl. a?adith; lit. "narrative") are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Hadith collections are regarded as important tools for determining the Sunnah, or Muslim way of life, by all traditional schools of jurisprudence." [source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]>>>.
Now let's look in brief at exerts from some of these Hadiths with regard the (false) prophet being a pedophile who was pervertedly sexually aroused by a six (6) year old girl with whom he consumated the arousal with sexual intercourse at nine (9) years old.
A writer, Silas, at <<<[ , AISHA, ISLAM, AND CHILD BRIDES]
by Silas
Said, Muhammad was 52 and Aisha was 9 when they married and sexually consummated their marriage. Muhammad followed an Arab [[Pedophile]] custom in marrying a child who had her first menstrual cycle. This action must be questioned, regardless of it being a cultural norm, because Muhammad's action and teachings on marriage established an Islamic precedent: a girl is judged an adult following her first menses, and is eligible for marriage and sexual relations. Thus Muslim men are allowed to marry and have intercourse with young girls who have happened to have an early first menstrual cycle. As will be shown, this leads to physical and psychological damage to the child."
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What is more critical than Muhammad's single action with Aisha is that he taught that a girl is considered an adult following her first menstrual cycle. He also taught that his followers were to follow his "sunnah" or lifestyle. Thus today, throughout much of the Mideast, girls as young as nine are often married by [[Perverted pedophiles]] men old enough to be their grandfather." [source - , AISHA, ISLAM, AND CHILD BRIDES]>>>.
Now evidence that Aisha was only nine (9) when the (false) Prophet Muhammad had sexual relations for her is found in some of the most respected and reliable Hadiths such as the Hadith of Sahih Bukhari. Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, while at the Islamic University in Medina, Saudi Arabia, translated this Hadith into English, and this Hadith is considered by many in Islam as second only to the Quran. In fact, this translation was signed off by Dr. Amin Amin Al-Masri, Ph.D. Cambridge University. Who is the Advisor and Head of the Sharia Dept., at the College of Sharia and Islamic Studies in Mecca.
[1] Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: 'I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).'"[source - Bukhari, vol. 7, #65]
[2] Bukhari vol. 7, #88:
"Narrated Urwa: 'The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).'" [source - Bukhari, vol. 7, #88]
[3] Bukhari vol. 5, #234 says:
"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age." [source - Bukhari, vol. 5, #234]
Now let's look at English translations of other well regarded Hadiths:
[1] Sahih Muslim vol. 2, #3309 says:
"Aisha reported: Allah's Messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine...." [source - Hadith of Sahih Muslim vol. 2, #3309]
[2] The Sunan of Abu Dawud, vol. 2, #2116 says:
""Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old." [source - The Hadith of Sunan of Abu Dawud - the third most respected Hadith in all of Islam.]
Now let's consider what credible and respectable encyclopedias have to say:
[1] <<<"'The Encyclopedia of Islam', under "Aisha". (pub. by E.J. Brill).
"Some time after the death of Khadija, Khawla suggested to Muhammad that he should marry either Aisha, the 6 year old daughter of his chief follower, or Sawda Zama, a widow of about 30, who had gone as a Muslim to Abyssinia and whose husband had died there. Muhammad is said to have asked her to arrange for him to marry both [[What a way for a pedophile to get more sexual pleasure]]. It had already been agreed that Aisha should marry Djubayr Mutim, whose father, though still pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. By common consent, however, this agreement was set aside, and Muhammad was betrothed to Aisha.... The marriage was not consummated until some months after the Hidjra, (in April 623, 624). Aisha went to live in an apartment in Muhammad's house, later the mosque of Median. She cannot have been more than ten years old at the time and took her toys to her new home." [source - 'The Encyclopedia of Islam,' published by E. J. Brill.]>>>.
[2] The Encyclopedia, Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, says,
<<<"Aisha bint Abu Bakr (d. 678) (Arabic ????? Transliteration: ?a?isha, IPA: [?a????æh] "she who lives", also transcribed as A'ishah, Ayesha, 'A'isha, or 'Aisha, Turkish Ayse, Ottoman Turkish Âise etc.) was the second wife of Muhammad. In Islamic writings, she is thus often referred to by the title "Mother of the Believers" (Arabic: ??? ???????? umm-al-mu'minin), per the description of Muhammad's wives as "Mothers of Believers" in the Qur'an (33.6), and later, as the "Mother of Believers", as in Qutb's Ma'alim fi al-Tariq (pps6). She is quoted as source for many hadith, sacred traditions about the prophet Muhammad's life, with Muhammad's personal life being the topic of most narrations. She has narrated 2210 Hadiths out of which 316 hadiths are mentioned in both Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim
Aisha was initially betrothed to Jubayr ibn Mut'im, a Muslim whose father, though pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. When Khawla bint Hakim suggested that Muhammad marry Aisha after the death of Muhammad's first wife (Khadijah bint Khuwaylid), the previous agreement regarding marriage of Aisha with ibn Mut'im was put aside by common consent.[1] Watt suggests that Muhammad hoped to strengthen his ties with Abu Bakr;[1] the strengthening of ties commonly served as a basis for marriage in Arabian culture.[2]
Aisha was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad. She stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, when the marriage was consummated [1][3][4][5] The marriage was delayed until after the Hijra, or migration to Medina, in 622. Aisha and her older sister Asma bint Abi Bakr only moved to Medina after Muhammad had already migrated there. Abu Bakr gave Muhammad the money to build a house for himself. After this, the wedding was celebrated very simply. The sources do not offer much more information about Aisha's childhood years, but mention that after the wedding, she continued to play with her toys, and Muhammad entered into the spirit of these games.[6]
References:
[1] Watt, "Aisha", Encyclopedia of Islam Online
[2] Amira Sonbol, Rise of Islam: 6th to 9th century, Encyclopedia of Women and Islamic Cultures
[3] Barlas (2002), p.125-126
[4] Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234, 5:58:236, 7:62:64, 7:62:65, 7:62:88, Sahih Muslim 8:3309, 8:3310, 8:3311, Sunnan Abu Dawud 41:4915, 41:4917
[5] Tabari, Volume 9, Page 131; Tabari, Volume 7, Page 7
[6] Watt, Muhammad: Prophet and Statesman, Oxford University Press 1961, page 102.
[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]>>>.
[Special footnote - The definition of the word "consummate". In Sahih Bukhari, vol. 7, #64, the root word used is "dakhala". From the Hans-Wehr Arabic-English Dictionary p273, it means "to enter, to pierce, to penetrate, to consummate the marriage, cohabit, sleep with a woman"].
Dangers of pedophile activity practiced by sexual deviants on very young females with respect to health.
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"Health Risks to the Mother"
"A teenage mother is more at risk of pregnancy complications such as premature or prolonged labor, anemia and high blood pressure. These risks are even greater for teens who are less than 15 years old.(3)"
"Health Risks to the Baby"
"A baby born to a teenage mother is more at risk than a baby born to an older mother.
"Nine percent of teenage girls have low-birthweight babies (under 5.5 lbs.), compared to 7 percent of all mothers nationally.(1)"
"Low-birthweight babies may have organs that are not fully developed. This can lead to lung problems such as respiratory distress syndrome, or bleeding in the brain."
"Low-birthweight babies are 40 times more likely to die in their first month of life than normal-weight babies." [source - The United Way - March of Dimes Birth Defects Foundation: Teen facts at on 9/18/2008].
From the United Nations:
<<<"...Child marriage robs a girl of her childhood-time necessary to develop physically, emotionally and psychologically. In fact, early marriage inflicts great emotional stress as the young woman is removed from her parents' home to that of her husband and in-laws. Her husband, who will invariably be [[A perverted pedophile.]] many years her senior, will have little in common with a young teenager [[Or pre-teenager if the pedophile gets his greatest wish, a very young female, hopefully under 10 years of age.]]. It is with this strange man that she has to develop an intimate emotional and physical relationship [[Even when he brutally rapes her.]]. She is obliged to have intercourse, although physically she might not be fully developed....
...Health complications that result from early marriage in the Middle East and North Africa, for example, include the risk of operative delivery, low weight and malnutrition resulting from frequent pregnancies and lactation in the period of life when the young mothers are themselves still growing....
The work of the Committee has also permitted the identification of certain areas where law reform should be undertaken, in both civil and penal areas, such as the minimum age for marriage and establishment of the age of criminal responsibility as being the attainment of puberty. Some States have argued that girls attain their physical maturity earlier, but it is the view of the Committee that maturity cannot simply be identified with physical development when social and mental development are lacking and that, on the basis of such criteria, girls are considered adults before the law upon marriage, thus being deprived of the comprehensive protection ensured by the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The International Conference on Population and Development, held at Cairo in September 1994 (see p. 36 below), encouraged Governments to raise the minimum age for marriage. In her preliminary report to the Commission on Human Rights, the Special Rapporteur on violence against women, its causes and consequences, Ms. Radhika Coomaraswamy, also recognized that the age of marriage was a factor contributing to the violation of women's rights [[i.e., brutal rape by a sadistic pedophile]]...
Early pregnancy can have harmful consequences for both young mothers and their babies. According to UNICEF, no girl should become pregnant before the age of 18 because she is not yet physically ready to bear children. Babies of mothers younger than 18 tend to be born premature and have low body weight; such babies are more likely to die in the first year of life. The risk to the young mother's own health is also greater. Poor health is common among indigent pregnant and lactating women. ...
An additional health risk to young mothers is obstructed labor, which occurs when the baby's head is too big for the orifice of the mother. This provokes vesicovaginal fistulas, especially when an untrained traditional birth attendant forces the baby's head out unduly....
Generally throughout the developing world, the average food intake of pregnant and lactating mothers is far below that of the average male. Cultural practices, including nutritional taboos, ensure that pregnant women are deprived of essential nutriments [[They might rebel if they were sufficiently nourished.]], and as a result they tend to suffer from iron and protein deficiencies...." [source - The United Nations at on 9/18/2008]
Now, science teaches us that young girls are not mature just because they have had their first menstrual bleed, but science teaches us that pre-teenage girls should NOT be bearing children. Their bodies are NOT ready for it. Pregnancies of pre-teenage girls are frequently harmful to both mother and child.
But Islam does not take this into account due to the very bad example established by their perverted pedophile (false) prophet. Therefore, forcible rape aside practiced by pedophile members of Islam is okay regardless of its outcome on the mother's or child's health. Because early marriage of girls [[Usually forcibly to pedophiles.]] is permitted in Islam, [[following first menstrual bleed]], it, the Islamic cult, cannot change it's position on this issue. Consequently, this type of abuse occurs throughout the Islamic world. If anyone wants to see just how bad child abuse is in the Islamic world, just check out some of the:
United Nations sites on the subject.
www.Watchtower.org site on the subject.
on the subject.
New York Times web sites on the subject.
So unlike the Islamic untruth teller mentioned in the INTRODUCTION, I have provided an over abundance of evidence and sources in an honest, balanced, and forth-right way, and NOT as un-backed up false accusations and conjecture.
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Islam Promotes Violence and Pedophiles
Gunmen attack U.S. consulate in Libya's Benghazi over film
By Omar Al-Mosmary | Reuters 2 hrs 41 mins ago
BENGHAZI, Libya (Reuters) - Gunmen attacked U.S. consulate offices in Libya's eastern city of Benghazi on Tuesday, and fought with security forces in protest against a U.S. film they say is blasphemous, a security official said.
He said a fire was burning inside the consulate and that staff had been evacuated.
A Reuters reporter saw three injured members of the Libyan security forces taken away in an ambulance. A Libyan security official who declined to be named said one U.S. security guard was injured in the clashes.
The incident followed a protest in neighboring Egypt where demonstrators scaled the walls of the U.S. embassy, tore down the American flag and burned it during a protest over what they said was a film that insulted Prophet Mohammad.
"There are fierce clashes between the Libyan army and an armed militia outside the U.S. consulate," said Abdel-Monen Al-Hurr, spokesman for Libya's Supreme Security Committee.
"The American security guards inside the building fired at the militia as they were trying to enter and attack it."
He said roads had been closed off and security forces were surrounding the building. He said the clashes were outside the consulate building.
"There is a connection between this attack and the protests that have been happening in Cairo," Hurr said.
"They are trying to take advantage of the security situation in Libya and cause more instability in the country."
Although it was not clear which film prompted the protests, Egypt's prestigious Al-Azhar mosque and seat of Sunni learning on Tuesday condemned a symbolic "trial" of the Prophet organized by a U.S. group including Terry Jones, a Christian pastor who triggered riots in Afghanistan in 2010 by threatening to burn the Koran.
According to the website www.standupamericanow.org, Jones and others were due to take part in an event on Tuesday - the anniversary of the September 11 attacks by al Qaeda on U.S. cities - called "International Judge Mohammad Day" in Florida. It was due to be carried live on the Internet.
Some activists had mentioned Jones in calls for a protest.
In Benghazi, Reuters reporters at the scene said they could hear shooting and had heard an explosion from inside the closed-off area. Rising smoke could also be seen.
A U.S. embassy source said there had been "an attack" on the diplomatic office in Benghazi, but gave no further details.
Benghazi, the cradle of last year's uprising that toppled Muammar Gaddafi, has been hit by several bombings and attacks on international convoys as well as some Western missions.
In June, an explosive device was dropped from a passing car outside the offices of the U.S. diplomatic mission. The blast that followed slightly damaged the gate in front of the building. A week later, a British embassy convoy was attacked about 300 meters (328 yards) from the British consulate office in the city.
(Reporting by Ahmed al-Rubaie in Benghazi; Ali Shuaib, Hadeel Al-Shalchi and Marie-Louise Gumuchian in Tripoli; Editing by Louise Ireland)
[source - retrieved from on 9/11/2012]
REALITY, Terry Jones is correct, Muhammad should be put on trial as he was nothing but a Seventh Century criminal and highwayman. Lets look at reality a little deeper. Islam has spilled blood since its foundation in the Seventh Century. Let's look at its very beginnings, a raid on a camel caravan with spilling of blood.
Having suffered a terrible defeat in the hands of B. Qudah at Dhat Atlah, coupled with the ignoble retreat of the Muslim army from Mu'tah, Muhammad's prestige was greatly affected. It is said that he also received intelligence that a number of tribes, including B. Qudah were now preparing to attack Medina. To salvage his reputation he now empowered Amr b. al-As, the new convert of Islam, to push for a decisive raid on the stubborn B. Qudah tribe. Amr b. al-As was very furious that some of these tribes had taken the side of the Byzantine party during the Mu'tah battle. It was time to punish them-Muhammad determined.
So with three hundred (300) men and thirty horses, Amr b. al-As set out to decimate the rebellious B. Qudah who were settled at Dhat al-Salasil. It was at a distance of ten days march from Medina. Amr b. al-As' grandmother (i.e., the mother of al-As b. Wail, the father of Amr b. al-As) was a woman from Qudah or Bali tribe and Muhammad sent Amr b. al-As to convert her and her people to Islam by force. When Amr arrived at Dhat al-Salasil he found that the enemy had heavily outnumbered the Muslims.
Because of the feeble Islamic forces at his disposal Amr b. al-As sought reinforcement from Muhammad. The messenger of Allah quickly sent Abu Bakr b. Quhafa with an additional two hundred (200) men to assist Amr b. al-As. Thus, the total number of men now numbered five hundred (500)." [source - "Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims," The Root of Terrorism a la Islamic style Chapter 15, by Abul Kasem ]
So as we can see, Islam started out with the spilling of innocent blood of those running the peaceful caravan of commerce, and it continued that way until the present. Yet members of this sham religion claim it is a religion of peace. This false claim makes one think of what Adolph Hitler said, >>.
Next, came the
In the next month, Muhammad sent Abu Ubaydah b. Jarrah along with three hundred (300) men to attack and punish the tribe of Juhaynah at al-Khabat, on the seacoast, five nights journey from Medina. This was a very difficult expedition and the Muslims suffered from intense hunger-so much so, that they had to divide the dates by number. They even ate the leaves of trees for a month. However, there was no fighting as the enemy had fled when they heard of the arrival of the Muslims.
In the end, the Muslims caught a dead-sea creature (a whale) that came ashore and ate it for half a month (or twenty days, according to Ibn Ishak). This is why this raid is also known as the 'expedition of fish.' They brought some of that stale meat to Muhammad and he ate it too.">>>.
Volume 3, Book 44, Number 663:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
"Allah's Apostle sent an army towards the east coast and appointed Abu 'Ubaida bin Al-Jarrah as their chief, and the army consisted of three-hundred men including myself. We marched on till we reached a place where our food was about to finish. Abu- 'Ubaida ordered us to collect all the journey food and it was collected. My (our) journey food was dates. Abu 'Ubaida kept on giving us our daily ration in small amounts from it, till it was exhausted. The share of everyone of us used to be one date only." I said, "How could one date benefit you?" Jabir replied, "We came to know its value when even that too finished." Jabir added, "When we reached the sea-shore, we saw a huge fish which was like a small mountain. The army ate from it for eighteen days. Then Abu 'Ubaida ordered that two of its ribs be fixed and they were fixed in the ground. Then he ordered that a she-camel be ridden and it passed under the two ribs (forming an arch) without touching them.">>>.
This practice of spilling blood of the innocents continued right on in early Islam. Here is a short list of some of these blood spilling affairs:
[1] Beheading the leader of B. Jusham at al Ghabah by Abd Allah ibn Hadrad - November, 629CE [still being practiced today by members of Islam.]
[2] Raid on a passing caravan at Batn al-Idam by Abd Allah b. Abi Hadrad - November, 629CE [An example of desert piracy and blood spilling.]
[3] Raid on B. Khudra at Suria by Abu Qatadah - December, 629CE [An example of blood spilling of the innocent.]
[4] The Occupation of Mecca by Muhammad - January, 630CE [Yet another example of blood spilling of the innocent.]
In addition, he was a pedophile who married a young girl at the age of 6 and consummated it at the age of 9. I believed what many Muslims asserted: Muhammad sexually consummated his marriage to the nine year old Aisha and that the Quran, the Hadith, and Muslim scholars writings state that a Muslim husband can engage in sex with a child-bride before she has her first menses. Further, Muhammad actually did just this he had intercourse with Aisha prior to her first menses! In other words, the Hadiths and the Quran permit pedophiles actions..
Item #5
Update on - Islam Promotes Violence and Pedophiles
The US and NATO forces made it possible for Libya to be free of Gadfhii, and to show their gratitude the Libyan members of Islam storm the US diplomatic building in Benghazi, Libya, and kill the US ambassador and several other workers. Lesson to be learned, they are just plain hatters promoting a false prophet and god. This false prophet, Muhammad, as shown in the original article was nothing but a Seventh Century Criminal and highwayman. Also, their god in nothing more than the old middle eastern mythical moon god who had three mythical daughters.
I challenge anyone to show that I am in error, as I am not.
Now here is the latest world news by Yahoo on events in Libya.
U.S. ambassador to Libya killed in Benghazi attack
By Tamim Elyan and Omar al-Mosmari | Reuters 39 mins ago
BENGHAZI, Libya (Reuters) - The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other embassy staff were killed in a rocket attack on their car, a Libyan official said, as they were rushed from a consular building stormed by militants denouncing a U.S.-made film insulting the Prophet Mohammad.
Gunmen had attacked and burned the U.S. consulate in the eastern city of Benghazi, a center of last year's uprising against Muammar Gaddafi, late on Tuesday evening, killing one U.S. consular official. The building was evacuated.
The Libyan official said the ambassador, Christopher Stevens, was being driven from the consulate building to a safer location when gunmen opened fire.
"The American ambassador and three staff members were killed when gunmen fired rockets at them," the official in Benghazi told Reuters.
There was no immediate comment from the State Department in Washington. U.S. ambassadors in such volatile countries are accompanied by tight security, usually travelling in well-protected convoys. Security officials will be considering whether the two attacks were coordinated.
Libyan deputy prime minister Mustafa Abu Shagour condemned the killing of the U.S. diplomats as a cowardly act.
The consular official had died after clashes between Libyan security forces and Islamist militants around the consulate building. Looters raided the empty compound and some onlookers took pictures after calm returned.
In neighboring Egypt, demonstrators had torn down an American flag and burned it during the protest. Some tried to raise a black flag with the words "There is no God but God, and Mohammad is his messenger", a Reuters witness said.
PORTRAYAL OF PROPHET
U.S. pastor Terry Jones, who had inflamed anger in the Muslim world in 2010 with plans to burn the Koran, said he had promoted "Innocence of Muslims", which U.S. media said was produced by an Israeli-American property developer; but clips of another film called "Mohammad, Prophet of Muslims", had been circulating for weeks before the protest.
That film portrayed Mohammad as a fool, a philanderer and a religious fake. In one clip posted on YouTube Mohammad was shown in a sexual act with a woman.
Jones, a pastor in Florida whose latest stunt fell on the anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, triggered riots in Afghanistan in 2010 with his threat to burn the Koran.
Many Muslims consider any depiction of the Prophet offensive and any depiction of him can cause outbursts of anger in the Islamic world and among Muslims in Europe.
Libya's interim government has struggled to impose its authority on a myriad of armed groups that have refused to lay down their weapons and often take the law into their own hands.
It was clearly overwhelmed by Tuesday night's attack on the consulate that preceded the assault on the ambassador.
"The Libyan security forces came under heavy fire and we were not prepared for the intensity of the attack," said Abdel-Monem Al-Hurr, spokesman for Libya's Supreme Security Committee.
In Benghazi, unidentified men had shot at the consulate buildings, while others threw handmade bombs into the compound, setting off small explosions.
LOOTED
On Wednesday morning, the compound stood empty, with passers-by freely walking in to take a look at the damage.
Walls were charred and a small fire burned inside one of the buildings. A small group of men was trying to extinguish the flames and three security men briefly surveyed the scene.
A Reuters reporter saw chairs, table and food lying alongside empty shells. Some blood stains could also be seen in front of one of the buildings. Three cars were torched.
The crowd of around 2,000 protesters in Cairo was a mixture of Islamists and teenage soccer fans known for fighting police and who played a part in the revolt that toppled Egypt's leader Hosni Mubarak last year.
The fortress-like U.S. mission is near Tahrir Square, where Egypt's uprising began and the scene of many protests since. Youths danced and chanted football songs. A Reuters reporter said they appeared to climb into the embassy compound almost as an afterthought.
"We sacrificed dozens and hundreds during the uprising for our dignity. The Prophet's dignity is more important to us and we are ready to sacrifice millions," said mosque preacher Mohamed Abu Gabal who joined the protest.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, in a statement late on Tuesday, confirmed the death of the U.S. consular diplomat in Libya, who was not identified, and condemned the attack there; but she made no mention of an attack on the Ambassador's car.
(Additional reporting by Hadeel Al Shalchi in Tripoli, Sarah N. Lynch and Arshad Mohammed in Washington, and Reuters reporters in Cairo and Benghazi; Writing by Edmund Blair and Tom Pfeiffer; editing by Ralph Boulton and Janet McBride) [source - retrieved from on 9/11/2012]
Now here is more information on Pedophiles in Islam and how their wicked actions take place in marriages to children.
Aisha: Mohammeds Nine-Year Old Wife
July 2010 version
Numerous people have said that Mohammed had sex with his youngest wife, Aisha, daughter of Abu Bakr, when he was about 53 and she was only nine years old. Some Muslims deny that. If somebody were to claim Mohammed and Aisha had sex when she was nine, and they were wrong, that would be a serious slander against Mohammed. On the other hand, if it were true, that would show a very different side of Mohammed that would shock many. So is this accusation against Mohammed true or false?
This paper will first give the evidence for Aisha being nine when her marriage was consummated, then raise 11 objections to this, and finally, ask what if each view were correct.
This is important to a widely practiced but overlooked practice today: child brides in Muslim lands due to Mohammeds example.
In Iran as of June 2002 it is legal for a 9 year old girl to marry with her parents permission. Voices Behind the Veil p.136-137
In the Ivory Coast this book also tells of a 12 year old girl who would leave the house for hours before returning home. After her father tied her up, burned her back with a piece of iron, locked her up for three days with no food, he eventually married her of to a 40-year old man. He never sent her to school because he said that it would drive them from their tradition, they would start asking questions, and not want to marry until they are 19 or 20.
The Taliban encouraged families to marry off their daughters as young as eight years old. (Voices Behind the Veil p.110)
The Dallas Morning News Sep 28, 2003 p.1,10S had a story about the sad plight of Muslim Nigerian girls who were married very young, got pregnant and had labor before their small bodies were ready. It was actually somewhat of a gross story, basically of many girls who needed C-sections but did not get them. Many survived, but could not have any children due to their perforated uteruses.
To understand the authoritative nature of the example of Mohammed, we have to understand something of the Muslim hadiths. They hold a higher place in Sunni Islam than church tradition does in the Catholic and Orthodox churches. Sunni Muslims hold to six collections of hadiths as the most authoritative writings in Islam after the Quran. The rest of this paper shows that the accusation is completely true, according to numerous corroborating early Muslims sources. In addition to these quotes from the six authoritative hadiths is a reference from the highly respected early Muslim historians ibn Ishaq and al-Tabari.
1. Sahih al-Bukhari 810-870 A.D. 256 A.H.
1a. "Narrated Hishams father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old." Bukhari vol.5 book 58 ch.43 no.236 p.153.
1b. The same points are in Bukhari vol.5 book 58 ch.43 no.234 p.152.
1c. "Narrated Urwa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six year old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Bukhari vol.7 book 62 ch.60 no.88 p.65
1d. Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet was screening me with his Rida' (garment covering the upper part of the body) while I was looking at the Ethiopians who were playing in the courtyard of the mosque. (I continued watching) till I was satisfied. So you may deduce from this event how a little girl (who has not reached the age of puberty) who is eager to enjoy amusement should be treated in this respect. Bukhari vol.7 book 62 ch.115 no.163 p.119
1e. "Narrated 'Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) I never remembered my parents believing in any religion other than the true religion (i.e. Islam), and (I don't remember) a single day passing without our being visited by Allahs Apostle in the morning and in the evening." Bukhari vol.5 book 58 ch.44 no.245 p.158. Therefore Aisha either was not born yet or else not very old or not born yet when her parents became Muslims. This is consistent with her being a child when her marriage with Mohammed was consummated.
2. Sahih Muslim 817-875 A.D. 261 A.H.
This is generally considered the second most reliable collection of hadiths.
2a. "(3309) Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allahs Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have shared in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allahs Messenger (may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him." Sahih Muslim vol.2 book 8 ch.548 no.3309 p.715-716
2b. "(3310) Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allahs Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old."
(3311) Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allahs Apostle (may peace be upon him) married here when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her: and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old." Sahih Muslim vol.2 book 8 ch.548 no.3310,3311 p.716.
2c. "(5981) Aisha reported that she used to play with dolls in the presence of Allahs Messenger (may peace be upon him) and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allahs Messenger (may peace be upon him), whereas Allahs Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent them to her.
2d. (5982) This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Hisham with the same chain of transmitters with a slight variation of wording." Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 29 ch.1005 no.5981-5982 p.1299
3. Sunan Abu Dawud 817-888/9 A.D. 275 A.H.
3a. "(2116) Aishah said : The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said : Or six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old." Sunan Abu Dawud vol.2 book 5 ch.700 no.2116 p.569
3b. "(4913) Aishah said : I used to play with dolls. Sometimes the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) entered upon me when the girls were with me. When he came in, they went out, and when he went out, they came in." Sunan Abu Dawud vol.3 book 36 ch.1769 no.4913 p.1373
Note carefully this is NOT saying Mohammed had intercourse with Aisha while her playmates were watching. Rather it says the playmates played with her, and they went out when Mohammed came by, and could come back after he was finished with her.
3c. "(4915) Aishah said : The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. According to Bishrs version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.
Abu Dawud said : That is to say : I menstruated, and I was brought in a house, and there were some women of the Ansari (Helpers) in it. They said : With good luck and blessing. The tradition of one of them has been included in the other. Sunan Abu Dawud vol.3 book 36 ch.1770 no.4915 p.1374
3d. (5916) [typo, really 4916] The tradition mentioned above has also been transmitted by Abu Usamah in a similar manner through a different chain of narrators. This version has: With good fortune. She (Umm Ruman) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and redressed me. No one came to me suddenly except the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) in the forenoon. So they entrusted me to him. Sunan Abu Dawud vol.3 book 36 ch.1770 no.4916 p.1374
3e. (4917) Aishah said: When we came to Medina, the women came to me when I was playing on the swing, and my hair were [sp] up to my ears. They brought me, prepared me, and decorated me. Then they brought me to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and he took up cohabitation with me, when I was nine. Sunan Abu Dawud vol.3 book 36 ch.1770 no.4917 p.1374
3f. (4918) The tradition mentioned above has also been transmitted by Hisham b. Urwah through a different chain of narrators. This version adds: I was swinging and I had my friends. They brought me to a house ; there were some women of the Ansar (Helpers). They said : With good luck and blessing. Sunan Abu Dawud vol.3 book 36 ch.1770 no.4918 p.1374
3g. (4919) Aishah said : We came to Medina and stayed with Banu al-Harith b. al-Khazraj. She said : I swear by Allah, I was swinging between two date-palms. Then my mother came, and made me come down; and I had my hair up to the ears. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition." Sunan Abu Dawud vol.3 book 36 ch.1770 no.4915-4919 p.1374.
Conclusion on Abu Dawud: 7 references and no counter-references affirm that Aisha was nine.
4. Tirmidhi 825-892 A.D. 209-279 A.H.
"..Ahmad and Is'haq said that if a female orphan reaches nine years old and was wed with her consent, then the marriage is permissible and she will have no choice when she matures. The two relied on a hadith by Ai'sha stating that the prophet peace be upon him had sexual relations with her when she was nine. Aisha said, if the little girl reaches nine then she is a woman" Tirmidhi said: A good hadith. (Tirmidhi, "Marriage according to Allah's apostle", #1027)
Conclusion on Tirmidhi: 1 reference and no counter-references affirm that Aisha was nine.
5. Sunan Nasai 830-915 A.D. 215-303 A.H.
5a. Aishah said: The Apostle of Allah peace be upon him married her when she was six and had intercourse with her when she was nine. (Sunan Nasai, Book of Marriage, no.3255)
5b. Aishah said: The Apostle of Allah peace be upon him married me when I was seven and had intercourse with me when I was nine. (Sunan Nasai, Book of Marriage, no.3256)
5c. Aishah said: The Apostle of Allah peace be upon him married me when I was nine and I accompanied him for nine years. (Sunan Nasai, Book of Marriage, no.3257)
5d. Aishah said: The Apostle of Allah peace be upon him married her when she was nine and died when she was eighteen. (Sunan Nasai, Book of Marriage, no.3258)
5e. Aishah said: The Apostle of Allah peace be upon him married me when I was six and had intercourse with me when I was nine and I was playing with dolls. (Sunan Nasai, Book of Marriage, no.3256)
Note that the previous are in original Arabic, but were not in the English translation. However, the English translator at the front wrote the following under #18.
"When Hadrat Aisha passed nine years of married life, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) fell in mortal sickness. On the 9th or the 12th of Rabi-ul-Awwal 11 A.H., he left this mortal worldHadrat Aisha was eighteen years of age at the time when the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) passed away and she remained a widow for forty-eight years till she died at the age of sixty-seven." Sunan Nasai vol.1 #18 p.108-109 (English material at the front)
Note that she had nine years of married life with Mohammed, and since he died when she was eighteen, she was nine years old when she started her married life with Mohammed.
Conclusion on Sunan Nasai: Not counting English translation notes, the Arabic has 5 references and no counter-references to affirm that Aisha was nine.
6. Ibn-i-Majah 824-886/887 A.D. 273 A.H.
6a. Aisha was married when she was six years old, and nine when she went to Mohammeds house. Ibn-i-Majah vol.3 book 9 ch.13 no.1876 p.133
6b. Aisha was married at seven, went to Mohammeds house at nine, and was 18 when Mohammed died. According to al-Zawaid, its isnad is sahih according to the condition of Bukhari. However Abu Ubaida did not hear from his father, so it is munqata (has a gap) Ibn-i-Majah vol.3 book 9 ch.13 no.1877 p.134.
7. The Historian ibn Ishaq - died 767/773 A.D. 145/151 A.H.
7a. "Yahya b. Abbad b. Abdullah b. al-Zubayr from his father told me that he heard Aisha say: "The apostle died in my bosom during my turn: I had wronged none in regard to him. It was due to my ignorance and extreme youth that the apostle died in my arms.""
(Guillaume, A., The Life of Muhammad, a translation of Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, Oxford University Press, Karachi, Pakistan, page 682). Aisha said she was an extreme youth when Mohammed died.
8. The Historian al-Tabari - died 923 A.D.
8a. Aisha was 6 (or 7) years old when she was married, and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. al-Tabari vol.9 (year A.H. 10) p.129-131. Muhammad b. Amr is one of the transmitters.
8b. Aisha was 6-7 when married, and the marriage was consummated when she was 9-10, three months after coming to Mecca al-Tabari vol.7 (year A.H. 1) p.7. The chain of transmission includes an unnamed man from the Quraysh.
8c. Aisha died in June-July 678 A.D. (A.H. 58) at the age of 66. That would make her born in 610 A.D.. al-Tabari says she consummated her marriage with the prophet when she was nine years old. al-Tabari vol.39 p.171,173. (al-Tabari wrote 38 volumes of history, plus a 39th volume called Biographies of the Prophets Companions and Their Successors.)
X 8d. On the other hand, al-Tabari also wrote that i.e. "All four of his [Abu Bakrs] children were born of his two wives -- the names of whom we have already mentioned -- during the pre-Islamic period." (Tarikhu'l-umam wa'l-mamlu'k, Al-Tabari, vol.4, (Account of Luhrasb) p.50, Arabic, Dara'l-fikr, Beirut, 1979. al-Tabari vol.11 (A.H 13) p.141 also mentions this, with footnote 766 saying al-Tabari has a conflict here. The footnote also says that al-Baladhuris Ansab I, p.409-411; Ibn Hajars Isabah IV, p.359-360 supports her being married by 9 years old.
Majority Muslim Explanations
There are two basic categories of answers Muslims have for this: the majority agree that these hadiths are reliable here, and a minority disagree.
The majority view affirms the reliability of these hadiths. If the hadiths and historians are to be trusted, then Mohammed, at around 53 years old, did have sex with a nine year old girl. As one Muslim told me " and I bet Aisha was the happiest nine-year old girl in the world".
In 2005, the following defunct web page also said this, and also accused liberal Muslims of catering to western morality and denying the truth. http: // admin.muslimsonline.com/~islamawe/Polemics/aishah.html
The Sahih Muslim translation footnote 1958 on p.715 says in part: "According to Imam Shafii, marriage in childhood is not something appreciable. It was under some exceptional circumstances that Hadrat Aisha was married to the Prophet (may peace be upon him). The second point to be noted is that Islam has laid down no age limit for puberty for it varies with countries and races due to climate, hereditary, physical and social conditions. Those who live in cold regions attain puberty at a much later age as compared with those living in hot regions where both male and female attain it at a quite early age. "The average temperature of the country or province, says the well-known authors of the book Woman, "is considered the chief factor here, not only with regard to menstruation but as regards the whole of sexual development at puberty. Similarly, the author of Kinsey Report states: The incidence of pre-adolescent sex play at particular ages (active incidence) seems to have been highest in the younger age groups. Some eight per cent of the females in the sample recalled pre-adolescent hetero-sexual play at ages five and seven" (Alfred C. Kinsey and Others, Sexual Behaviour in the Human Female, p.110)" -- All of this was quoted from Sahih Muslim vol.2 footnote 1958 p.715.
[However, against saying girls mature more rapidly in that climate, here is what an Assyrian writer, named Bardaisan/Bardesan, (224-232 A.D.) wrote, "For a man does not become a father before the age of fifteen, nor does a woman become a mother before the age of thirteen." The Book of Laws of Diverse Countries.]
The translator of Sahih Muslim vol.2 gives an explanation in footnote 1960 on p.716. "The Holy Prophets (may peace be upon him) marriage with Aisha has been criticized by the Western critics. It is, however, strange that contemporary critics of Muhammad (may peace be upon him) who leveled all kinds of charges against him did not make any mention, not in the least, of this marriage. It should be borne in mind that, like all acts of the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him), even this marriage had a Divine purpose behind it. Hadrat Aisha was a precocious girl and was developing both in mind and body with rapidity peculiar to such rare personalities. She was admitted to the house of the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) just at the threshold of her puberty, the most impressionable and formative period of her life. Even from the psycho-sexual standpoint it was a happy union as it is evident from the records of the Hadith. When the difference (in ages), says Von De Velde, Director of the Gynaeological [sp] Clinic at Harlem [New York?], is great, e.g. exceeds fifteen or twenty years, the results may be happier. The marriage of an elderly (senescent) - not, of course an old (senile) - man to a quite young girl, is often very successful and harmonious The bride is immediately introduced and accustomed to moderate sexual intercourse" (Ideal Marriage, Its Psychology and Technique, London, 1962 p.243)." Sahih Muslim vol.2 p.716.
Timeline of Mohammed and Aisha
Event (+/- 2 years)
A.D.
A.H.
Mohammed born
570
-53
Migration to Ethiopia
617
-5
Aisha married at 6-7
622
0
Migration to Medina
623
1
Marriage consummated at 8-9
623
1
Battles of Badr & Uhud
625
3
At 63 Mohammed died. Aisha 19
633
11
Aisha revolts against Ali
656
35
Note that the interpretations and explanations of official hadith scholars, in trying to explain the rationale for her young age when the marriage was consummated, confirm the young age.
Footnote 2728 on the same page says in part: "Thus the marriage of the Prophet (may peace be upon him) with Aisha at an age when she was at the threshold of puberty was a great necessity, as it was through her that instructions could successfully be imparted to the young ladies who had newly entered the fold of Islam. Moreover, this marriage struck at the root of a wrong notion which had firmly taken hold of the minds of the people that it was contrary to religious ethics to marry the daughter of a man whom one declared to be ones brother." [Abu Bakr and Mohammed were brothers in religion, but not biological brothers.]
After Mohammed died, later in life Aisha started a Muslim Civil war, culminating with the Battle of the Camel [Jamal].
Muslims have said that either people got married younger back then, and/or girls in hotter countries tend to mature earlier. However, the age of marriage is not an issue, because even when children are married when both are less than one year old, they do not live together as husband and wife until the wife is old enough to bear children. As a result of Mohammeds example, as mentioned previously, Nigerian Muslim girls have often been married early, and gotten pregnant before their young bodies were capable of bearing children. The Nigerian girls were raised in a hot climate too.
Eleven Possible Objections
A minority view denies that Mohammed had sex with a nine-year old, usually claiming that Aisha 17 to 19 years old. Here are reasons given, and some responses.
Objection 1: Doubts on Three of the Transmitters
1.1 An unnamed man from Quraysh is a transmitter in al-Tabari vol.7 (year A.H. 1) p.7, which is a weak reference.
1.2 Hisham ibn Urwah is a transmitter in many quotes. If he was mistaken, then all the people who accurately quoted him would have wrong information too. Mizanu'l-ai`tidal, a book on the [life sketches of the] narrators of the traditions of the Prophet (pbuh) reports that when he was old, Hisham's memory suffered quite badly. (vol.4, p.301-302)
Tehzibu'l-tehzib, one of the most well known books on the life and reliability of the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet (pbuh) reports that according to Yaqub ibn Shaibah: "narratives reported by Hisham are reliable except those that are reported through the people of Iraq". It further states that Malik ibn Anas objected on those narratives of Hisham which were reported through people of Iraq. (vol.11, p. 48 - 51)
1.3 Muhammad ibn Amr is called weak by Ibn Abu Hatim in Al-Jarah wa al-Tadeel: Yahya said, "he is not among those whom you would desire [to report from]." Abu Hatim asked Malik who said similar, and Yahya bin Mueen said "People refrain from accepting his narratives"
Al-Dhahabiy in "Siyar Aa`laam al-Nubalaa", says that Juzyanniy said that Muhammad ibn Amr is not strong [in reliability]. Al-Dhabahiy also says Yahya ibn Qataan said Muhammad ibn Amr was not very careful in reporting narratives.
Uqailiy also said Muhammad ibn Amr was a weak [less reliable] narrator in al-Du`afaa al-`uqailiy, vol. 4, p.109.
Response to 1: Even assuming Hisham, ibn Amr, and an unnamed man are all weak transmitters, weak does not necessary mean they are wrong. Also, what about the more who are not weak? Here is a scorecard
A Scorecard on References
Narrator
Strong refs
Weaker refs
Counter refs
al-Bukhari
4
1
0
Sahih Muslim
3
1
0
Abu Dawud
6
1
0
Tirmidhi
1
0
0
Nasai
5
0
0
Ibn-i-Majah
1
1
0
Ibn Ishaq
1
0
0
al-Tabari
0
3
1
TOTAL
21
7
1
7 weaker references do not cancel out strong references; rather they add to their credibility.
Objection 2: No other Medina narrators
Hisham ibn Urwah lived in Medina for 70 years and then moved to Iraq. Why did no one else from Medina narrate that Aisha was eight or nine? Also the other narrators are all from Iraq.
Response to 2: This is an argument from silence: many people did not report anything about Aishas age of her consummated marriage. Also, Iraq would be a good source, because both Aisha and many companions moved to Iraq by Uthmans time. Of course, we can assume Aisha remembered when she got married, and told others.
Objection 3: Did Arabs have child marriages?
There is [allegedly] no reference to child marriage in the history of the Arabs, so if Mohammed did this, one would expect this out of the ordinary incident to be reported by large numbers of people. No one would object to this young marriage if in fact it never happened.
Response 3: While this was reported by a number of people, there is in fact at least one reference to child marriage (and consummation) in Mohammeds time. A lady [presumably married] became a grandmother at 21 years old according to Bukhari vol.3 book 48 ch.18 no.831 p.514. Finally, no one objected to the reporting of this young marriage, because the Muslim scholars agreed that it did happened.
Objection 4: Young girl when Sura 54:46 written
Aisha said she was a young girl when Sura 54:46 [al-Qamar on the splitting of the moon] was written, which [allegedly] was about 9 years before Hejira. She did not say infant [sibyah], but young girl [jariya]. (taken from )
This is according to Bukhari, kitabu'l-tafsir, Arabic, Bab Qaulihi Bal al-sa`atu Maw`iduhum wa'l-sa`atu adha' wa amarr.
Response to 4: There are three parts to answer.
1a (word use): This argument hinges on allegedly not being able to use jariya as a generic word for any girl who is pre-teen. Yet many narratives said the Aisha still played with dolls when she was married to Mohammed.
1b (wrong Sura): It is easier for a few narrators to forget the correct sura than for a great many narrators to forget she was a child wife.
1c (wrong time for Sura): It might be the correct sura, but we do not really know when Sura 54:46 was written. Both Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Baariy and Maudid say it was about 5 years before Hejira, not 9 years before.
Objection 5: Aisha at Badr and Uhud
Some narratives said that Aisha accompanied the army at the battles of Badr and Uhud (both in 3 A.H.). The hadiths also show that boys under 15 years old were allowed to take part in the Battle of Uhud. al-Tabari vol.12 (A.H. 14) p.75 says a boy participated in the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah only after attaining puberty. The narratives mentioning Aisha at Uhud are: Bukhari, Kitabu'l-jihad wa'l-siyar, Arabic, Bab Ghazwi'l-nisa' wa qitalihinna ma`a'lrijal. References that boys below 15 could not participate are: Bukhari vol.3 book 48 ch.18 no.832 p.514, Kitabu'l-maghazi, Bab ghazwati'l-khandaq wa hiya'l-ahza'b.
Response to 5: Aisha, being a girl, never fought in any battles. The age of 15 "is the limit between childhood and manhood". So what would a girl be there for?
An 10/11-year old, besides keeping Mohammed company at night, had many things to do. The women and young children went on the battlefield after the battle and gave water to the wounded Muslims and finished off the enemy wounded. al-Tabari vol.12 (A.H. 14) p.127,146. During the days of the battle, the women and children were there to dig graves for the dead. al-Tabari vol.12 (A.H. 14) p.107
Finally, young Aisha was considered an adult, for Muslims called a girl an adult when she first started her period according to the English translators note in Bukhari vol.3 book 48 ch.18 prior to no.832 p.513.
Objection 6: Aishas ten-year older sister Asma died in 73 A.D. when she was 100 years old.
Taqribul-tehzib and Al-bidayah wal-nihayah say that Asma died in 73 A.H. when she was 100 years old. Since Asma would have been about 26/27 in 1 A.H., that would make Aisha 16/17 in 1 A.H., not 8-9 years old. (References to Asma age at death are: ibn Hajar al-Asqalani in Taqri'bu'l-tehzi'b p.654 and ibn Kathir in Al-bidayah wa'l-nihayah vol.8 p.372 Arabic. References to Asma being ten years older are: Abda'l-Rahman ibn abi zanna'd, Siyar A`la'ma'l-nubala', Al-Zahabi, vol.2, p.289, Arabic, Mu'assasatu'l-risalah, Beirut, 1992, ibn Kathir in Al-Bidayah wa'l-nihayah, Ibn Kathir, Vol 8, Pg 371, Arabic, Dar al-fikr al-`arabi, Al-jizah, 1933)
Response to 6: Assuming these books are reliable on this point, people can report the age of someone incorrectly after they died.
For example, if you trust ibn Hajar on the previous slide on when Asma died, you should trust him ibn Hajars Isabah IV, p.359-360 when he shows Aisha was married by the time she was 9 years old. (footnote in al-Tabari vol.11 (A.H. 13) p.141 footnote 766)
What about the dolls? Contrary to Objection 6, a writer reported that many Muslim sources refer to Aisha still playing with her dolls when she was married. (Sahih Muslim vol.2 book 8 ch.548 no.3310,3311 p.716; Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 29 ch.1005 no.5981-5982 p.1299; Sunan Abu Dawud vol.3 book 36 ch.1769 no.4913 p.1373, ibn Hanbal.
Objection 7: al-Tabari said Abu Bakr had four children in the pre-Islamic period.
Since Aisha was one of the children, she would have to be at least 13 or 14 years old when the marriage was consummated.
Response to 7: al-Tabari vol.11 (A.H. 13) p.141 footnote 766 says that al-Tabari is contradictory here. He also said Aisha was 8-9 when the marriage was consummated. Tabari reported a great number of things, and he or his sources were mistaken on something. However, a person would remember something important better than something unimportant. Al-Tabari had three places where Aisha would be 8-10 when the marriage was consummated, and only one place that would make her somewhat older.
Objection 8: Aisha accepted Islam before Umar bin Khattab according to Ibn Hisham in Sirah al-Nabawiyyah vol.1 p.227-24 (Arabic). She was the 20/21st person while Umar was the 41st (ibid vol.1 p.295). Thus one Muslim claims this proves Aisha had to have accepted Islam during the first year (c.610 A.D.)
Response to 8: Three parts to the answer.
1. Nobody today really knows the order. In general there is lengthy disagreement on the order of who accepted Islam, as al-Tabari vol.5 (Holders of Power after Ardashir b. Babak) p.80-87; vol.12 (A.H. 14) p.38 discuss. If they cannot even agree on the first five men, how can they know the 21st?
2. Aisha never converted to Islam, because she never remembered a time when Mohammed did not come by twice a day and her parents were not Muslims. This is prior to the first migration to Ethiopia (617 A.D.) (Bukhari vol.5 book 58 ch.44 no.245 p.158).
3. Umar became a Muslim just after the first migration to Ethiopia (617 A.D.) according to Ibn Ishaq p.155,156. So what Ibn Hisham counts as Aishas "conversion" could be between birth and three years old.
Objection 9: According to al-Tabari, Eight years before Hejira, when Abu Bakr planned on migrating Habshah, Aisha was engaged to marry Mutam. Abu Bakr asked Mutam to take Aisha into his house, but Mutam refused because Abu Bakr had become a Muslim. Thus Aisha had to be old enough to be a wife eight years before Hejira. Another reference is Tehqiq e umar e Siddiqah e Ka'inat, Habib ur Rahman Kandhalwi, Urdu, p.38, Anjuman Uswa e hasanah, Karachi, Pakistan
Response to 9: Even if this account is accurate, Arabs both then and today often betrothed girls soon after they were born. Abu Bakr had other daughters and it might have been one of them.
Objection 10: According to the Islamic jurist Ahmad ibn Hanbal, before Aisha was married, she was called in Arabic a bikr, which means virgin or unmarried lady. (Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, v.6, p. 210, Arabic, Dar Ihya al-turath al-`arabi, Beirut.
Response to 10: The word bikr means virgin and is not age-specific. If she was already a young lady, why would Mohammed wait for three years after marrying her before consummating the marriage? Also, the English translators note in Bukhari vol.3 book 48 ch.18 prior to no.832 p.513 says they called a girl an adult when she first started her period.
Objection 11: Ibn Hajar reported that Fatima, Mohammeds daughter, was born when Mohammed was 35 years old, which would make her five years older the Aisha. That would make Aisha 15/16 years old when they consummated their marriage. (Al-isabah fi tamyizi'l-sahabah, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Vol 4, Pg 377, Arabic, Maktabatu'l-Riyadh al-haditha, al-Riyadh, 1978)
Response to 11: Sunan Nasai vol.1 #29 p.115-116 (English material at the front) actually says that Fatima was 29 years old when she died (six months after Mohammed), which makes her ten years older than Aisha. So either Ibn Hajar, or else everybody else made a mistake. The authoritative hadiths would be trusted by most Sunni Muslims more than Ibn Hajar. Regardless though, Aisha was younger.
What If Mohammed Did Not After All?
Let's assume for a second, that some westernized Muslims are correct on this; all the hadith sources and most al-Tabari references on this are wrong, and Aisha was not 8 or 9 but a teenager when Mohammed consummated his marriage to her. If these many hadiths are all wrong then there are four questions to ask Muslims.
1. What does "Sunni" mean if not the Muslims tradition of the hadiths?
What distinguishes a Sunni Muslim? It is one who:
a) politically who thinks Abu Bakr, 'Umar, and 'Uthman were rightful caliphs
b) religiously who believes the Sunnah, or traditions in the hadith are usually reliable, and at the very least, Allah did not give the hadiths to lead people to do wrong things Allah would not approve of.
2. Why Would Allah Let the Hadiths Warp Islamic Society for over 1,200 years?
Consider the already mentioned prevalence of child brides today in Nigeria and other Muslim places, and the medical horrors of girls who just started menstruating but are too young to give birth. Regardless of whether some modernist Muslims are right or the substantial body of Islamic scholarship is right, everyone agrees that the authoritative hadiths of Sunni Islam give the example of Mohammed consummating his marriage to Aisha when she was only 8/9 years old and playing with dolls.
If all these hadiths were wrong, do you agree that these hadiths are giving a bad example, and lending support to this cruel practice?
"Allah is the best of schemers/deceivers". Sura 3:54. Was this deception one of Allahs schemes, Satans schemes, or was this sex with a nine-year old not a scheme?
3. According to Islam, What Happens If You Follow the Wrong Sect?
According to the same hadiths, Muslims will be split into 72 or 73 sects, and they clearly say that all will go to Hell except one. (Abu Dawud vol.3 no.4579-4580 p.1290-1291; Ibn-i-Majah vol.5 book 36 ch.17 no.3992 p.312). The Qur'an also speaks against those who split up and become sects in Sura 30:32. If the hadiths are wrong on this point, and they are evil in supporting this horrible practice, if you are a Sunni Muslim, you are in the wrong sect. The very "Sunni-ness" of Sunni Islam
has
a) misled people horribly
b) condemns Muslims who are in a misleading sect. If people found themselves in the "wrong sect", then if they want to please God, shouldn't that change and leave that sect?
4. Might the Correct Path be Called Something You Did Not Expect?
If Sunni Islam were the wrong sect and the consequences of following its bad examples are severe, is it possible the right path might not be called Islam?
Four Questions for Traditional Muslims Only
Everyone has to agree that the hadiths and the vast bulk of Islamic scholarship both in the past and present teach that Mohammed had sex with a young eight or nine year old girl.
Here are four questions, but these questions are only for Muslims who teach that the hadiths are reliable.
1. Why do many Muslim teachers say that Sharia Muslim law is good, yet cover up this part?
2. When you say that Mohammed is sinless, does merely mean that anything he did and condoned you will not call wrong? If not, is there any rape or other sexual practice that you would condemn, even if Mohammed permitted or practiced it?
3. Why do so many westernized Muslims fail to follow the teachings of the hadiths? What do they see that perhaps you do not?
4. If you tell people to follow the hadiths, and you have still or moving pictures of people in your home (including TV), have you read the numerous things the Quran and hadiths say about hypocrites?
For reference hadiths banning all pictures of people or animals (including photographs and TV) are:
Bukhari vol.3 book 34 ch.41 no.318 p.180-181; vol.4 book 54 ch.45-46 no.447-450 p.297-299; vol.8 book 73 ch.75 no.130 p.82-83; vol.9 book 93 ch.56 no.646 p.487
Sahih Muslim vol.3 book 22 ch.5382 no.5246-5252 p.1157-1158; vol.3 footnotes 2519-2520 p.1160-1161
Abu Dawud vol.1 book 1 ch.92 no.227 p.55-56; vol.3 book 36 ch.1769 no.4913-4914 footnote 4288 p.1373.
Sunan Nasai vol.1 book 1 ch.169 no.264 p.240; vol.1 book 9 ch.454 no.764 p.471
Ibn-i-Majah vol.4 book 29 ch.56 no.3359 p.481; vol.5 book 32 ch.44 no.3649-3651 p.108-109. (no.3652 also mentions it, but 3652 is considered a weak (daif) hadith.
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In the late 1960s there were violent actions in Saudi Arabia when pictures of people were shown on TV.
Conclusion: Do not pay attention to a traditionalist, unless you find a consistent traditionalist. If you cannot find a consistent traditionalist, then reject those who tell you to follow what they themselves do not.
Conclusion for Sunni Muslims who would like to reject the Sunnah
For modernized Sunni Muslims who reject the hadiths, here are the four questions again.
1. What does the word "Sunni" mean?
2. Did Allah deceive his followers for centuries?
3. What does Islam say about those in the wrong sect?
4. Could the correct way be one you overlooked?
Conclusion: Many times even knowledgeable historians make little mistakes, but this is no little mistake. If all these Muslim historians said this terrible thing about Mohammed, what can you trust about the Mohammed of Muslim history? Yet if even the Quran allows sex with whom your right hands possess
The Alternative : Follow the True God
Leave bad tradition. In fact, do not place your love and loyalty with any tradition. Seek only God. Even Muslims have respect for the Torah and Bible, though few have read them. Why not read the gospels and see how different was the teaching of Jesus?
Appendix: Various Cultures
The Christian writer Tertullian, writing 200-240 A.D., in On the Veiling of Virgins ch.11 p.34 mentions that even barbarians did not dispatch to their businesses girls until they were 12, and boys until they were 14 years old. The context here is betrothal in marriage, though one might argue it is consummating a marriage. Now a twelve-year old and an eight or nine-year old are rather different, and Mohammed consummated his marriage with Aisha so much earlier than even the barbarians.
Lest someone think all Muslim countries are the same on this issue, in Tunisia polygamy is banned, and the minimum age for marriage for girls is 17 according to
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www.Answering-Islam.org is a very extensive web site presenting and debating many aspects of Islam.
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Item #6
THE SHORT TRUTH ON ISLAM AS TESTIFIED TO BY THE WORLD NEWS:
INTRODUCTION:
Some Members Of Islam Are Out Once More To Engage In Violence, Murder, In Pursuit Of Their Lust For Violence And Hate:
Let’s face it, many members of Islam are out to murder others and to destroy property in their inbreed hate, greed, and love of violence, and in their wrongful calling of others infidels; whereas, they are the real infidels and haters.
Here is a recent item from the world news that proves that many members of this religion founded by a Seventh Century criminal and highwayman and pedophile are haters engaged in violence, murder, etc., in pursuit of their lust for violence and hate under the guise of religion.
IMPORTANT REALITY AS SHOWN IN A MAGAZINE:
The reality was pointed out in a FrontPage Magazine in an article, Barbarians at the Gate, [source - retrieved from on 9/14/2012]. This article said, “…CNN reported that several individuals claimed responsibility for organizing the demonstrations, among them Wesam Abdel-Wareth, the president of Egypt’s conservative Hekma television channel. Mohammed al-Zawahiri – the brother of al Qaeda bigwig Ayman al-Zawahiri – added that “we called for the peaceful protest joined by different Islamic factions including the Islamic Jihad, Hazem Abu Ismael movement.” By “peaceful” he means there was not yet any wholesale slaughter of infidel Americans or any unlucky Copts who might happen to be in the vicinity.
Al-Zawahiri added that “the film portrays the prophet in a very ugly manner, alluding to topics like sex, which is not acceptable.” Sex, eh? Perhaps he’s referring to his prophet Mohammed’s marriage consummation with a nine-year-old, which would indeed be an ugly – yet truthful – portrayal. No wonder the crowd is upset – unlike a film about Christianity’s Jesus, a film that depicts Islam’s model for the perfect man in an historically accurate manner wouldn’t paint their religion in a very flattering light.
“I just want to say,” al-Zawahiri went on, “how would the Americans feel if films insulting leading Christian figures like the pope or historical figures like Abraham Lincoln were produced?”
The answer is that films insulting Christians and American historical figures are produced almost nonstop in the entertainment biz, and Americans don’t form spit-flecked, bloodthirsty mobs to storm Hollywood studios and threaten Bill Maher with death. Christians and patriotic Americans are routinely insulted in pop culture and most don’t even bother to shoot off an irate email to a TV network. But of course al-Zawahiri wasn’t expecting empathy; these mobs don’t want our respect – they want our submission.”
NOW, Let’s face it, their behavior is both unconscionable and criminal just like the founder of their religion. Read the excerpt from world news that just proves this point once more.
TODAY, 9/14/2012 ON THEIR LOVE OF VIOLENCE:
[NOTE, Germany was in no way connected to any movie they hated.]
Sudanese storm German embassy, hoist Islamic flag
By Khalid Abdelaziz | Reuters – [source - retrieved from on 9/14/2012]
KHARTOUM (Reuters) - Sudanese demonstrators incensed by a film that insults the Prophet Mohammad broke into the German embassy in Khartoum on Friday and hoisted an Islamic flag, while one person was killed in protests in the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli.
The obscure California-made production had triggered an attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya's eastern city of Benghazi that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans on Tuesday, the anniversary of the Sept 11, 2001 al Qaeda attacks on the United States.
Rallies against the film were also staged on Friday in Egypt, Yemen, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Lebanon, Iran and Iraq.
Protesters clashed with police near the U.S. embassy in Cairo before a nationwide protest called by the Muslim Brotherhood which propelled Egypt's Islamist president Mohamed Mursi to power.
Police in the Sudanese capital fired tear gas to try to disperse 5,000 protesters who had ringed the German embassy and nearby British mission. A Reuters witness said police stood by as a crowd forced its way into Germany's mission.
Demonstrators hoisted a black Islamic flag saying in white letters "there is no God but God and Mohammed is his prophet". They smashed windows, cameras and furniture in the building and then started a fire.
Staff at Germany's embassy were safe "for the moment", Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said in Berlin. He also told Khartoum's envoy to Berlin that Sudan must protect diplomatic missions on its soil.
Witnesses said police fired tear gas at thousands of protesters to stop them approaching the U.S. embassy outside Khartoum.
Sudan's Foreign Ministry had criticized Germany for allowing a protest last month by right-wing activists carrying caricatures of the Prophet and for Chancellor Angela Merkel giving an award in 2010 to a Danish cartoonist who depicted the Prophet in 2005 triggering protests across the Islamic world.
BASHIR UNDER PRESSURE
President Omar Hassan al-Bashir is under pressure from Islamists who feel the government has given up the religious values of his 1989 Islamist coup.
The official body of Sudan's Islamic scholars called for the faithful to defend the Prophet peacefully, but at a meeting of Islamists, some leaders had said they would march on the German and U.S. embassies and demanded the ambassadors be expelled.
"Tomorrow we will all get out to defend Prophet Mohammad ... We will do this peacefully but with strength," Salah el-Din Awad, general secretary of the scholars' body in Khartoum state told reporters after meeting government officials on Thursday.
The Foreign Ministry said in its statement: "The German chancellor unfortunately welcomed this offence to Islam in a clear violation of all meanings of religious co-existence and tolerance between religions."
Sudan used to host prominent militants in the 1990s, such as Osama bin Laden, but the government has sought to distance itself from radicals to improve ties with the West.
A Lebanese security source said the man was killed in Tripoli as protesters tried to storm a government building.
Earlier, a U.S. fast food restaurant was set alight. Twelve members of the security forces were wounded by stones thrown by protesters, the source said.
The protests coincided with Pope Benedict's arrival in Lebanon for a three-day visit.
WASHINGTON'S DILEMMA
Protesters also clashed with police in Yemen, where one person died and 15 were injured on Thursday when the U.S. embassy compound was stormed.
In Nigeria, where radical Islamist sect Boko Haram has killed hundreds this year in an insurgency, the government put police on alert and stepped up security around foreign missions.
U.S. and other Western embassies in other Muslim countries had tightened security, fearing anger at the film may prompt attacks on their compounds after the weekly worship.
The protests present U.S. President Barack Obama with a new foreign policy crisis less than two months before seeking re-election and tests Washington's relations with democratic governments it helped to power across the Arab world.
Obama has vowed to bring those responsible for the Benghazi attack to justice, and the United States sent warships towards Libya which one official said was to give flexibility for any future action.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Washington had nothing to do with the crudely made film posted on the Internet, which she called "disgusting and reprehensible", and the Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff called a Christian pastor in Florida to ask him to withdraw his support for it.
Protesters in Afghanistan set fire to an effigy of Obama and burned a U.S. flag after Friday prayers in the eastern province of Nangarhar.
Directing their anger against the U.S. pastor who supported the film, tribal leaders in province also agreed to put a $100,000 bounty on his head.
About 10,000 people held a noisy protest in the Bangladeshi capital. They burned U.S. flags, chanted anti-U.S. slogans and demanded punishment for the offenders, but were stopped from marching to the U.S. embassy. There was no violence.
Thousands of Iranians held nationwide protests.
(Additional reporting by Mohammed Ghobari in Sanaa, Samia Nakhoul in Beirut, Ulf Laessing and Khalid Abdelaziz in Khartoum, Gareth Jones in Berlin, Suleiman Al-Khalidi in Benghazi, Marie-Louise Gumuchian in Libya, Sami Aboudi in Dubai, Raissa Kasolowsky in Abu Dhabi, Aref Mohammed in Basra, Iraq, Siva Sithraputhran in Kuala Lumpur, Anis Ahmed in Bangladesh, Regan Doherty in Doha, Roberto Landucci in Italy and Mirwais Harooni in Kabul; writing by Philippa Fletcher; editing by Peter Millership)
Other Resources to Check Out Posted on 9/14/2012
* Article: One killed in Lebanon protest over anti-Islam film, pope
* Article: One killed, two wounded in north Lebanon protest
* Article: Sudanese police fire teargas at protesters near U.S. embassy
* Article: Egypt Islamist preachers say film makers deserve death
* Article: Germany's Westerwelle condemns "hate video", embassy attack
* Article: Protesters smash windows, set fires in U.S. embassy in Tunis
* Article: Blood, Blood, and More Blood, the Story of Islam at
CONCLUSION:
I believe this article and its references clearly and honestly portray Islam as a dangerous and unconscionable religion.
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As can be seen from the foregoing, the Prophet Muhammad set a very bad and wicked example and should be tried in absenteeism for being a pedophile as shown by his marrying a child at six years of age and having sexual relations with her at nine years of age.
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