THIS IS VOL 700B –  COMBINATION OF (1) INTERESTING VIDEO AND TALKING SHOWING WONDERS OF ALMIGHTY GOD’S CREATION, [2]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND AN A VIDEO TO INTRODUCTION BOOK OF THE SONG OF SOLOMON, AND A LINK TO A BIBLE STUDY:  [3]  A COMMENTARY ON BOUNTIFUL TREES AND VEGETABLES GOD (YHWH) HAS PROVIDED FOR MANKIND, SPECIFICALLY THE SOURSOP OR GRAVIOLA IS THE FRUIT OF ANNONA MURICATA, A BROADLEAF :

(1) TO VIEW WAS IT DESIGNED OR CREATED, VIEW THE SHORT VIDEO, CLICK OR POST IN BROWSER THE FOLLOWING,   
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODBibleCreation/docid-502200134_1_VIDEO
NOW VIEW A TALKING VIEDO SHOWING, WAS IT DESIGNED?  THE DOG’S SENSE OF SMELL:
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/science/was-it-designed/dogs-sense-smell/


COMBINATION OF THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES - Annona muricata    With the Scripture of the Day first.

[2]       SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [700B]

He trusted in the LORD God of Israel; so that after him was none like him among all the kings of Judah, nor any that were before him.   6  For he clave to the LORD, and departed not from following him, but kept his commandments, which the LORD commanded Moses.  2 Kings 18:5 – 6, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Although King Hezekiah was the son of one of the most wicked kings of Judah, and had had one of the worst childhoods imaginable, even witnessing the burning a son as a sacrifice to a pagan god, he over came these bad influences and became one of the best kings of Judah.  He, per 2 Chronicles 29:1 – 11, [AV] “Hezekiah began to reign when he was five and twenty years old, and he reigned nine and twenty years in Jerusalem. And his mother’s name was Abijah, the daughter of Zechariah.  2  And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, according to all that David his father had done.  3  He in the first year of his reign, in the first month, opened the doors of the house of the LORD, and repaired them.  4  And he brought in the priests and the Levites, and gathered them together into the east street,  5 And said unto them, Hear me, ye Levites, sanctify now yourselves, and sanctify the house of the LORD God of your fathers, and carry forth the filthiness out of the holy place.  6  For our fathers have trespassed, and done that which was evil in the eyes of the LORD our God, and have forsaken him, and have turned away their faces from the habitation of the LORD, and turned their backs.  7  Also they have shut up the doors of the porch, and put out the lamps, and have not burned incense nor offered burnt offerings in the holy place unto the God of Israel.  8  Wherefore the wrath of the LORD was upon Judah and Jerusalem, and he hath delivered them to trouble, to astonishment, and to hissing, as ye see with your eyes.  9  For, lo, our fathers have fallen by the sword, and our sons and our daughters and our wives are in captivity for this.  10  Now it is in mine heart to make a covenant with the LORD God of Israel, that his fierce wrath may turn away from us.  11  My sons, be not now negligent: for the LORD hath chosen you to stand before him, to serve him, and that ye should minister unto him, and burn incense.”  And at 2 Chronicles 29:28 – 24, [AV] “Then they went in to Hezekiah the king, and said, We have cleansed all the house of the LORD, and the altar of burnt offering, with all the vessels thereof, and the shewbread table, with all the vessels thereof.  19  Moreover all the vessels, which king Ahaz in his reign did cast away in his transgression, have we prepared and sanctified, and, behold, they are before the altar of the LORD.  20 Then Hezekiah the king rose early, and gathered the rulers of the city, and went up to the house of the LORD.  21  And they brought seven bullocks, and seven rams, and seven lambs, and seven he goats, for a sin offering for the kingdom, and for the sanctuary, and for Judah. And he commanded the priests the sons of Aaron to offer them on the altar of the LORD.  22  So they killed the bullocks, and the priests received the blood, and sprinkled it on the altar: likewise, when they had killed the rams, they sprinkled the blood upon the altar: they killed also the lambs, and they sprinkled the blood upon the altar.  23  And they brought forth the he goats for the sin offering before the king and the congregation; and they laid their hands upon them:  24  And the priests killed them, and they made reconciliation with their blood upon the altar, to make an atonement for all Israel: for the king commanded that the burnt offering and the sin offering should be made for all Israel.”  Then he, 2 Chronicles 31:1, [AV] “Now when all this was finished, all Israel that were present went out to the cities of Judah, and brake the images in pieces, and cut down the groves, and threw down the high places and the altars out of all Judah and Benjamin, in Ephraim also and Manasseh, until they had utterly destroyed them all. Then all the children of Israel returned, every man to his possession, into their own cities.” Re-introduced clean worship in all of Judah.”  This right action of his clearly proves a person’s past does not have to determine his future.


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[3]       HERE IS A COMMENTARY ON BOUNTIFUL TREES AND VEGETABLES GOD (YHWH) HAS PROVIDED FOR MANKIND, SPECIFICALLY THE SOURSOP OR GRAVIOLA IS THE FRUIT OF ANNONA MURICATA, A BROADLEAF, flowering, evergreen tree native to Mexico, Cuba, Central America, the Caribbean, extreme southern Florida and the Florida Keys, and northern South America: Colombia, Brazil, Peru, and Venezuela. Soursop is also produced in sub-Saharan African countries that lie within the tropics.   It’s fruit and juice of the fruit are strong medicine against some cancers.

In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to  www.jw.org].

Adaptation
The soursop is adapted to areas of high humidity and relatively warm winters; temperatures below 5 °C (41 °F) will cause damage to leaves and small branches, and temperatures below 3 °C (37 °F) can be fatal. The fruit becomes dry and is no longer good for concentrate.

Cultivation and uses
The plant is grown as a commercial crop for its 20–30 cm (7.9–12 in) long, prickly, green fruit, which can have a mass of up to 15 lb (6.8 kg)[2], making it probably the second biggest annona after the junglesop.
Away from its native area, some limited production occurs as far north as southern Florida within USDA Zone 10; however, these are mostly garden plantings for local consumption. It is also grown in parts of Southeast Asia and abundant on the Island of Mauritius. The soursop will reportedly fruit as a container specimen, even in temperate climates, if protected from cool temperatures.
The flesh of the fruit consists of an edible, white pulp, some fiber, and a core of indigestible, black seeds. The species is the only member of its genus suitable for processing and preservation.  The sweet pulp is used to make juice, as well as candies, sorbets, and ice cream flavorings.
In Mexico , Colombia and Harar (Ethiopia ), it is a common fruit, often used for dessert as the only ingredient, or as an agua fresca beverage; in Colombia, it is a fruit for juices, mixed with milk. Ice cream and fruit bars made of soursop are also very popular. The seeds are normally left in the preparation, and removed while consuming.

In Indonesia, dodol sirsak, a sweetmeat, is made by boiling soursop pulp in water and adding sugar until the mixture hardens. Soursop is also a common ingredient for making fresh fruit juices that are sold by street food vendors. In the Philippines, it is called guyabano, obviously derived from the Spanish guanabana, and is eaten ripe, or used to make juices, smoothies, or ice cream. Sometimes, they use the leaf in tenderizing meat. In Vietnam, this fruit is called mãng c?u Xiêm in the south, or mãng c?u in the north, and is used to make smoothies, or eaten as is. In Cambodia, this fruit is called tearb barung, literally "western custard-apple fruit." In Malaysia, it is known in Malay as durian belanda and in East Malaysia, specifically among the Dusun people of Sabah, it is locally known as lampun. Popularly, it is eaten raw when it ripens. Usually the fruits are taken from the tree when they mature and left to ripen in a dark corner, whereby they will be eaten when they are fully ripe. It has a white flower with a very pleasing scent, especially in the morning. While for people in Brunei Darussalam this fruit is popularly known as "Durian Salat", widely available and easily planted.  [source - retrieved from  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soursop on  12/05/2012]

Use Against Cancer

Graviola Tree and Paw Paw Treatments For Cancer

How It Works
These products come from trees in the tropical areas of South and North America. They kill cancer cells as a minimum, but may have other affects on cancer. Paw Paw is known to work by blocking ATP production and thus reduce the voltage of the cancer cell to the point it falls apart (apoptosis or programmed cell death). Because Paw Paw and graviola are cousins, I assume that is also the way graviola works. They are also known to build the immunity system.

Graviola Tree and Paw Paw Tree
This is one of those treatments for cancer that is fairly new, meaning it has only recently found its way onto the internet. Nevertheless, there have been a lot of scientific studies on these two products. At the current time most of the articles for Graviola and cancer come from a single source - the Health Sciences Institute (see the links below), though there are a growing number of independent articles.

I recommend graviola on the basis of several scientific articles, several testimonials, and several comments by practitioners (mostly from Brazil), however, Paw Paw is actually stronger than graviola at treating cancer. Paw Paw is the more potent of the two because of its more sophisticated and larger molecular structures. Graviola is sometimes called "Brazilian Paw Paw," which can cause some confusion.

Paw Paw is clearly more powerful than graviola when treating cancer, if the quality of the processing is comparable. However, I would take freshly cut graviola over bottled Paw Paw (but American's can't get freshly cut graviola). Graviola only has single ring compounds, while the Paw Paw's acetogenins have several double ring compounds (e.g. bullatacin) which makes Paw Paw much more powerful.

Paw Paw works (and I assume graviola as well) by slowing down or stopping the production of ATP. This in turn lowers the voltage of the cell. For normal cells, there is plenty of ATP, thus lowering the level of ATP has no effect on the cell. However, with cancer cells, due to the way they create energy (by fermentation), ATP is far more critical.
When the ATP level, and the energy of the cell level, drops to a critical level the cell falls apart. The residual pieces of the dead cancer cell are called "lysing" and I assume are similiar to other apoptosis (programmed cell death) killed cells. If that is the case, then part of the lysing is literally "eaten" by other cells (called: phagocytosed).

However, because the cancer cells in a cancer patient are frequently clusted together, a large amount of lysing can be created within a cancer patient such that high levels of clustered lysing cannot be eaten by surrounding cells. Such a situation is especially dangerous for lung cancer patients and brain cancer patients where a clustered amount of lysing can be very dangerous.

Here is some technical information on graviola:
* "The Annonaceous acetogenins discovered in graviola thus far include: annocatalin, annohexocin, annomonicin, annomontacin, annomuricatin A & B, annomuricin A thru E, annomutacin, annonacin, annonacinone, annopentocin A thru C, cis-annonacin, cis-corossolone, cohibin A thru D, corepoxylone, coronin, corossolin, corossolone, donhexocin, epomuricenin A & B, gigantetrocin, gigantetrocin A & B, gigantetrocinone, gigantetronenin, goniothalamicin, iso-annonacin, javoricin, montanacin, montecristin, muracin A thru G, muricapentocin, muricatalicin, muricatalin, muri-catenol, muricatetrocin A & B muricatin D, muricatocin A thru C muricin H, muricin I, muricoreacin, murihexocin 3, murihexocin A thru C, murihexol, murisolin, robustocin, rolliniastatin 1 & 2, saba-delin, solamin, uvariamicin I & IV, xylomaticin.

http://www.naturalpharmacy.com/learn-more/graviola
Graviola, like its cousin Paw Paw, is known to greatly enhace the effectiveness of another alternative cancer treatment - Protocel. However, generally it is recommended that Protocel not be taken with graviola or Paw Paw. There are exceptions, see my Protocel article for more information:

Protocel Article
Because of the similarity of Paw Paw and graviola to Protocel, there is no doubt in my mind that in order to maximize the effectiveness of these products, they should be taken in exactly the same way as Protocel. In other words, every 6 hours, EXACTLY - 24 hours a day.
I would strongly recommend studying the Protocel article linked to above for information that will help you take these products.
Paw Paw has been shown to kill multiple-drug resistant (MDR) cells, which result from someone taking chemotherapy. This is critical to understand because when a person on orthodox treatments comes out of remission into regression, a high percentage of their cancer cells are MDR cells. This would REQUIRE the use of Paw Paw to treat these patients.

Paw Paw is not toxic according to studies with beagles (dogs). It appears to be impossible to 'overdose', 32 capsules 4x/day were non toxic because it caused vomiting.

Paw Paw gravitates towards cells that use a lot of energy and then cuts off their energy supply. Since cancer cells use 10-17 times as much energy as a normal cell, Paw Paw acts on cancer cells. It is the same mechanism that made it so useful as a parasite cleanse and to kill hair lice.

It is also the reason that pregnant women should not take Paw Paw. Paw Paw could see some of the fast growing cells in the fetus as high energy cells. In addition, some of the cells in a fetus are very similar to cancer cells (i.e. the "trophoblastic" cells), so pregnant women should ALWAYS be careful what they take for cancer.

If no cancer, parasite, or other high energy users are available, Paw Paw may gravitate towards fast growing cells lining the digestive and intestinal system walls. This is why the main manufacturer, Nature's Sunshine, strongly cautions against long term use for non-cancer patients. Some people with cancer have reported digestion distress such as nausea. For this reason it is recommended to take Paw Paw with food.

Warnings For Both Products
In the past, it was thought that the effectiveness of Paw Paw, like Protocel, was damaged by taking antioxidants with Paw Paw. However, new research has shown that this is not the case. I quote from an email I received:

* "The head of NSP research, Dr. Bill Keller, provided Paw Paw with supporting products to a research oncologist and his laboratory to test with actual cultures. Several of Nature's Sunshine strong antioxidants were also provided. The research personnel concluded overwhelmingly that there was no negative prevention of Paw Paw action as a result of the antioxidants."

email to CancerTutor
Important Note: The above email is not the end of the story. Nature's Sunshine researchers are still looking into this issue because there are some antioxidants that DO increase ATP energy, which would conflict with the use of Paw Paw, graviola and Protocel. I will put the results of their research on this web site as soon as I get more information!!
Also, I do not know which antioxidants may conflict with graviola. If you buy graviola, check with the vendor for recommendations.

No one with Parkinsons Disease should take Paw Paw or graviola unless alkaloid-free preparations are used. There is also a possibility of allergic reactions in sensitive individuals.

Supercharging This Treatment
Paw Paw is generally considered stronger than graviola. This does not mean that graviola should not be used. Cat's Claw and Ellagic Acid seem to be items that people like to combine with Graviola. However, if you take Cat's Claw make sure you take a product like Samento, which is a TOA-free Cat's Claw.

An alternative cancer treatment should be a complete treatment protocol. Do NOT forget to study the complete treatment protocol for Stage I, II and III cancer patients and the complete treatment protocol for Stage IV cancer patients:

Liquid Graviola
One company I know of, All-Vita NorthWest, produces a liquid extract and their URL is http://www.allvita.net/graviola.htm.

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THIS IS VOL 702B –  COMBINATION OF (1) INTERESTING VIDEO AND TALKING SHOWING WONDERS OF ALMIGHTY GOD’S CREATION, [2]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND AN A VIDEO TO INTRODUCTION BOOK TO THE BOOK OF BOOK OF JEREMIAH, AND A LINK TO A BIBLE STUDY: [3]    WHO IS A SAVIOR :

(1) TO VIEW WAS IT DESIGNED OR CREATED, VIEW THE SHORT VIDEO, CLICK OR POST IN BROWSER THE FOLLOWING,   
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODBibleCreation/docid-502200134_1_VIDEO
NOW VIEW A TALKING VIEDO SHOWING, WAS IT DESIGNED?  THE GRUNION’S SPAWNING TECHNIQUE:
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COMBINATION OF [2]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND  [3]  WHO IS A SAVIOR.   With the Scripture of the Day first.

[2] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [702B]

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,  10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.  11  And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.  1 Corinthians 6:9 – 11  [authorized King James Bible; AV]

It is imperative if anyone is practicing these Almighty God (YHWH) disapproved things that they immediately start working to turn their life around.  All need to put on a new personality and way of life per Colossians 3:10 – 11, [AV] “And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:  11  Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.” We need to due according to Colossians 3:12 – 15, [AV] “Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;  13  Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.  14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.  15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.”   


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[3]  WHO IS A SAVIOR

INTRODUCTION:

Let's face it, the word savior has several different meanings and/or aspects. One can be he who saves someone directly, and another can be one who orders another to save someone; and this can proceed through several layers. But let's first look at what the Bible says and then proceed to the dictionary definition and saving through several layers.

WHY NEED FOR A SAVIOR:

At John 1:12-14, " But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God; 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father." (Revised Standard Version; RSV). Here God (YHWH) demonstrated His love by sending His promised Son, Jesus (Yeshua), to be the Savior and Messiah, and then allowing Him to be crucified on a torture stake. God (YHWH) let his Son serve as a ransom for our sins, a perfect human life for the perfect human life lost by Adam. Let's consider this in detail.

In having Jesus give his life, God (YHWH) was dealing with a situation that arose when Adam sinned. What a tragedy that sin was! The very first man and his wife, Eve, were perfect. The beautiful garden of Eden was their home. God gave them the meaningful work of caring for their garden home. They were to have under their loving oversight the other living creatures on earth. And as humans multiplied and filled the earth with millions of their kind, they were to expand the paradise to earth's limits as recorded at Genesis 1:28, "And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." (RSV). Thus God (YHWH) set before them a delightful and exciting work, and they had the loving companionship of each other. They lacked nothing.

It is hard to imagine why Adam or Eve would want to disobey and thus sin. But the first human pair rebelled against the very one who created them-Almighty God (YHWH). Using a serpent, the spirit creature Satan the Devil deceived Eve into disobeying Almighty God (YHWH), and her perfect human husband Adam followed her per Genesis 3:1-6, "Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God say, 'You shall not eat of any tree of the garden'?" 2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" 4 But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, and he ate." (RSV).

There was no question about what the Creator would do about Adam and Eve as he had already spelled out the consequence of disobedience, when he said at Genesis 2:16-17, "And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." (RSV).

ORIGINAL SIN CREATED NEED FOR GOD (YHWH) TO PROVIDE A SAVIOR:

The original sin created a problem of a critical nature for all of mankind. Adam began life as a perfect human. Therefore, his children could have enjoyed perfect everlasting life. However, Adam sinned before he fathered any children, and was put under sentence by God (YHWH) as affirmed at Genesis 3:17-19, "And to Adam he said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, 'You shall not eat of it,' cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life; 18 thorns and thistles it shall bring forth to you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return." (RSV). Thus at this time when Adam sinned, he began to die as God (YHWH) had said, and all of mankind was thus under the sentence of death due to the sin inherited from Adam.
Thus, the Apostle Paul said at Romans 5:8-12, "But God shows his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. 9 Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 Not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received our reconciliation. 12 Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned-." (RSV). Therefore, because of the original sin, we are all dying today and thus need a savior

GOD (YHWH) NEEDED TO PROVIDE A SAVIOR:

Since God (YHWH) is love per 1 John 4:8, "He who does not love does not know God; for God is love" (RSV), he had to counter the evil worked by Satan the Devil by providing a savior for all of mankind. And the fact that he would provide one was foretold at Genesis 3:14-15, "The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. 15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." (RSV). Here God (YHWH) alluded to his plan or purpose to provide a savior for all of obedient mankind in the form of his beloved only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua), i.e., a perfect human life in place of the perfect human life lost by Adam.

This was required because of the law of like for like given at Romans 6:20-23, " When you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 But then what return did you get from the things of which you are now ashamed? The end of those things is death. 22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the return you get is sanctification and its end, eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." (RSV). To do this of course a perfect human life must be provided to be the equivalent of the one lost by Adam.

This was required by law as shown at Exodus 21:23, If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, " (RSV) which required like for like. According to this principle, only the death of another perfect man could provide the ransom for the wages of sin, and God (YHWH) transformed the life force of his only begotten Son into the womb of a virgin human girl to enable him to be born as a human so he could provide the necessary ransom required by the law. This was made clear at 1 Timothy 2:1-6, " First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way. 3 This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, the testimony to which was borne at the proper time." (RSV).

Therefore, Jesus saves because he died for all obedient mankind. And what a valuable provision his death is! When we see it as a part of God's (YHWH's) solution to the complex problem of Adam's sin, our faith in Almighty God (YHWH) is strengthened greatly. This loving provision of God (YHWH) is made clear at John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." (RSV).
NOW LET'S EXPLORE WHAT A SAVIOR IS:

The dictionary definition as provided by Word Web On Line is:

Noun: savior seyvyur

Usage: N. Amer (=saviour)

1. A person who rescues you from harm or danger
- saviour [Brit, Cdn], rescuer, deliverer

2. A teacher and prophet born in Bethlehem and active in Nazareth; his life and sermons form the basis for Christianity (circa 4 BC - AD 29)
- Jesus, Jesus of Nazareth, the Nazarene, Jesus Christ, Christ, Saviour [Brit, Cdn], Good Shepherd, Redeemer, Deliverer
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Type of: benefactor, Hebrew, helper, Israelite, Jew, Logos, prophet, Son, Word
ago. Seek His free gift of forgiveness and unending love.

(v.) One who saves, preserves, or delivers from destruction or danger.
Definition of Savior [source - Word Web On Line ]

CONCLUSION:

So as we can see, a Savior is someone who saves, preserves, and/or deliverers from destruction and/or danger.

Now both God (YHWH) and his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) Christ can both rightly be called Saviors, but in a different sense and/or aspect. How so? Well God (YHWH) could be called a savior in that he took steps to provide a perfect human life as a ransom for the original one lost by Adam by providing his beloved only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua) as a ransom. This compares to a ship captain ordering the crew to throw life preservers to individuals in the water, the captain, like God (YHWH) has provided the means of saving. So in this sense, just as in the case of God (YHWH) providing his only begotten Son as a saving sacrifice, could be called a savior.

However, in a different aspect, the Son, Jesus (Yeshua) Christ is called the Savior as he, in obedience to his Father (YHWH) gave up his human life as a ransom for all of mankind. So he was in the direct sense the Savior of all of mankind just as the sailor who through the life preserver was the direct savior of the receiver of the life preserver. However, in both cases, those giving the directions to subordinates could also be called saviors in a different sense in that without their directions no one would have been saved in either case.

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COMBINATION OF [2]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [3]    ISLAMIC JUSTICE - INJUSTICE - IN ACTION - PART 2:

[2]       SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [704B]

Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: James 1:19,  [authorized King James Bible; AV]

The mother of Jesus (Yeshua) was a great listener, and she was slow to speak.  And she was surprised at his response when he was a twelve year old boy, and when she found him in the temple.  He said, Luke 2:46 – 52, [AV] “And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.  47  And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.  48  And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.  49  And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business? 50  And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.  51  And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.  52  And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.”


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[3]       ISLAMIC JUSTICE - INJUSTICE - IN ACTION - PART 2:

Introduction:

Islam's claim as made by one of their members,

"Islam's laws are just because the Creator is Perfect and so His Justice is also Perfect.
[source - http://www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6010 ]"

The Reality,

For women to use force to defend themselves against rape is considered a serious crime for which they can be sentenced to death at the local court lever, and even if they appeal to the supreme court in their Islamic country they might have the death sentence lifted but will have to pay an outrageous fine that will bankrupt their family.  This is not true justice, but injustice.

Here is an actual example for proof,

"www.rferl.org ^ | Saturday, 07 January 2006
Iran's "Etemad" newspaper reports today that an 18-year-old woman has been sentenced to death by hanging for killing a man she said was trying to rape her. The newspaper reported that the woman, identified only as Nazanin, testified during her trial that she and her niece were out with their boyfriends when they were accosted by two men who chased away the boyfriends then tried to rape the two young women. Nazanin admitted stabbing one of the men to prevent her and her niece from being assaulted. Nazanin was only 17 years old at the time, but under Iranian law...

[update] Iran clears teenage woman sentenced to deathAFP

January 15, 2007

TEHRAN -- An Iranian court has cleared of murder charges a 19-year-old woman who was originally sentenced to death for killing a man that she said tried to rape her, the press reported Monday.

Mahabad Fatehi, known as Nazanin, was cleared by a not valid. provincial court of premeditated murder but still ordered to pay blood money of 260 million Iranian riyals ($30,600) to the victim's family, the Etemad newspaper reported.

Fatehi, whose case achieved international notoriety when it was taken up by a Canadian beauty queen of Iranian origin, said that she stabbed the man in an act of self-defense after he tried to rape her and her niece in March 2005.

In January last year, Fatehi was put on trial and sentenced to death by a criminal court, a verdict that was then quashed by in an unprecedented move, the report said."

Note, even the court did not call it premeditated murder - is was a forceful defense by the girl to avoid being raped.

If she had been raped, she might have been murdered by her family for reasons of "honor."   To see the facts,

[0] Murder of One's Daughter Tacitly Approved by Islam  at,
[https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/rgko1d/honor_killings_and_its_correlation_to_islam/]
and more detailed information at [https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Muslims-honor-kill-their-own-daughters]

Unfortunately the more descriptive authority on this no longer exist but was,
[http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=women&thread=1168368344]


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COMBINATION OF [2]  THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [3]   THE MUSLIM HIDE BEHIND FOR EVERYTHING

[2]        SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY VOL [706B]

For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.  Mark 13:8, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Today, we are living in the end-times close to its conclusion and the arrival of Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) Kingdom prayed for at Matthew 6:9 – 10, [AV] “After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.  10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.”  Yes, the earth shall be made over, and righteousness shall prevail as testified to in Psalms 37: , [AV] “But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.  39  But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble.  40  And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.”  And as Pslams 55:22 -23, shows, [AV] “Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved. 23  But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee.” 


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[3]       THE MUSLIM HIDE BEHIND FOR EVERYTHING

INTRODUCTION:

Islam is not able to stand up to reality; they take refuge from reality by saying, "show it to me in the Quran."  This in no way covers reality of the real world as we all know.

Consider some examples,

Some Muslims run a major homosexual site, GayEgypt, on the Internet, but they will not owe up to it, they say, "show it to me in the Quran."

Members of Islam at the direction of Sheik Usama bin Ladin attack and destroy world trade center and murder over 3,000 individuals, this is violence, but they say "show it to me in the Quran."

Members of Islam are presented with actual cases of Islamic justice in Iran, but instead of owing up to it, say "show it to me in the Quran."

Reality,

"You are just fooling yourself, it is not what either the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is the interpretation of what is written either in the Bible or the bible knockoff the Qur'an that matters and governs actions.   It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff really say.   People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders.   Take the genocide committed by the Roman Catholic Church at the direction of their supreme religious leader, the pope, what mattered was not that the Bible clearly said at Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but what their religious leaders told them.   Therefore, it is the religion at fault, irregardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an may say.   Neither in so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the interpretation of their religious leaders.   Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it.   Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian.[source - Iris the Preacher, unpublished document]"

Their false claim, Allah = Almighty God (YHWH), when given authoritive data to the contrary,

"Some who speak Arabic do not even know that god in Arabic is Ilah.   Allah is as history shows,

<<<"It should not come as a surprise that the word "Allah" was not something invented by Muhammad or revealed for the first time in the Quran.

The well-known Middle East scholar H.A.R. Gibb has pointed out that the reason that Muhammad never had to explain who Allah was in the Quran is that his listeners had already heard about Allah long before Muhammad was ever born" [source - Mohammedanism: An Historical Survey, New York: Mentor Books, 1955, p.38]>>>.

<<<"Dr. Arthur Jeffery, one of the foremost Western Islamic scholars in modern times and professor of Islamic and Middle East Studies at Columbia University, notes:

"The name Allah, as the Quran itself is witness, was well known in pre-Islamic Arabia. Indeed, both it and its feminine form, Allat, are found not infrequently among the theophorous names in inscriptions from North Africa" (Islam: Muhammad, and His Religion, New York: The Liberal Arts Press, 1958, p. 85)>>>.

<<<"The word "Allah" comes from the compound Arabic word, al-ilah. Al is the definite article "the" and ilah is an Arabic word for "god." It is not a foreign word. It is not even the Syriac word for God. It is pure Arabic. [source - "Arabic Lexicographical Miscellanies" by J. Blau in the Journal of Semitic Studies, Vol. XVII, #2, 1972, pp. 173-190]>>>.

<<<"Neither is Allah a Hebrew or Greek word for God as found in the Bible. Allah is a purely Arabic term used in reference to an Arabian deity." [source - Hastings' Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics I:326, T & T Clark]>>>.  This historical reference book goes on to state,

'"Allah" is a proper name, applicable only to their [Arabs'] peculiar God. '"

<<<"Allah" is a pre-Islamic name . . . corresponding to the Babylonian Bel' [source - Encyclopedia of Religion, I:117 Washington DC, Corpus Pub., 1979]>>>.

<<<"For those who find it hard to believe that Allah was a pagan name for a peculiar pagan Arabian deity in pre-Islamic times, the following quotations may be helpful:

"Allah is found . . . in Arabic inscriptions prior to Islam" [source - Encyclopedia Britannica, I:643]>>>.

<<<"The Arabs, before the time of Mohammed, accepted and worshipped, after a fashion, a supreme god called Allah" [source - Encyclopedia off Islam, I:302, Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1913, Houtsma]>>>.

<<<"Allah was known to the pre-Islamic . . . Arabs; he was one of the Meccan deities" [source - Encyclopedia off Islam, I:406, ed. Gibb]>>>.

<<<"Ilah . . . appears in pre-Islamic poetry . . . By frequency of usage, al-ilah was contracted to Allah, frequently attested to in pre-Islamic poetry" [source - Encyclopedia off Islam, III:1093, 1971][>>>.

<<<"The name Allah goes back before Muhammad" [source - Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, I:41, Anthony Mercatante, New York, The Facts on File, 1983]>>>.

<<<"The origin of this (Allah) goes back to pre-Muslim times. Allah is not a common name meaning "God" (or a "god"), and the Muslim must use another word or form if he wishes to indicate any other than his own peculiar deity" [source - Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, I:326, Hastings]>>>.

<<<"Allah was already known by name to the Arabs" [source - The Bible and Islam: or, The Influence of the Old and New Testament on the Religion of Mohammed, New York, Charles Scribner's Sons, 1897, p. 102]>>>.

<<<"The name Allah is also evident in archeological and literary remains of pre-Islamic Arabia" [source - The Call of the Minaret, Dr. Kenneth Cragg, New York: Oxford University Press, 1956, p. 31]>>>."

Say, "show it to me in the Quran."

They deny true source of the Quran,

"Muslims believe that Muhammad (pbuh) received the Quran from an angel, but reality is very different. It is a distorted copy of the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Issac, Ishmael, Noah, Moses, etc., the creator of all there is, the Bible, although most of Islam denies this reality. Details can be found in a recent book review as follows:

<<<" A book review of Christoph Luxenberg, a world renown linguistic scholar, clearly reveals that the Quran is nothing but a distorted knockoff of the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible.

This book review is contained in, "HUGOYE: JOURNAL OF SYRIAC STUDIES," book review of Christoph Luxenberg (ps.) Die syro-aramaeische Lesart des Koran; Ein Beitrag zur Entschlüsselung der Qur'ansprache. Berlin, Germany: Das Arabische Buch, First Edition, 2000. Pp. ix + 306, Vol. 6, No. 1, January 2003.
[http://syrcom.cua.edu/Hugoye/Vol6No1/HV6N1PRPhenixHorn.html ]

THE evidence:

Let's look at the evidence contained in the book review of Christoph Luxenberg's latest book in German, "Die syro-aramaeische Lesart des Koran; Ein Beitrag zur Entschlüsselung der Qur'ansprache." He clearly shows that the Quran draws on personal names of Biblical origins, that the name "Quran' even indicates its origin, that it was NEVER intended to replace the written source - the Bible, that it was distorted from the writings of Muhammad early on, as follows:

<<<"The rest of the section draws on personal names of Biblical origin in the Qur'an to demonstrate that the so-called Arabic matres lectionis, 'alif, waw, and ya, must also be polyvalent. Luxenberg points out that Islamic tradition admits a reading of the mater for long /a/ in certain instances as /e/ because this pronunciation was a peculiarity of the Arabic of Mecca. Luxenberg shows that the term harf, "sign" must also carry a meaning synonymous to qira'at, "(way of) reading" and that this is not only supplying the vowels in an unvocalized text, but also supplying the diacritical points that distinguish consonants. It is only gradually that these diacritical points became fixed so that consonants came to have just one reading. This process of determining the value of each letter of the Qur'an unfolded over some three hundred years. This is known from the oldest manuscripts of the Qur'an which do not have the diacritical points distinguishing readings of a single consonant. By the time these became commonly used, Arabian commentators were no longer aware that many words were either straight Aramaic or were calques peculiar to Meccan Arabic. From this resulted the difficulties that the Qur'an posed to even the earliest Arabian commentators...

The section concludes by demonstrating that the technical meaning of "lectionary" is preserved in the word qur'an. Most striking is the conclusion that the term umm kitab, an aramaism, must be a written source and that the Qur'an was never intended to replace this written source. One might complain that the details of the argument for the reading of suras 12:1-2 and 3:7 are squeezed into footnotes, but nevertheless the argument is clear. Luxenberg proves that the term qur'an itself is the key to unlocking the passages that have given commentators in and outside of the tradition frustration. If quryan means "lectionary," and if the text itself claims to be a clarification of an earlier text, then that earlier text must be written in another language. The only candidate is the Old and New Testament in Syriac, the Penutsta. Hence the influence of Aramaic on the Arabic of Muhammad has an identifiable, textual origin. At the very end of the work, Luxenberg makes a compelling argument that sura 108 is a close allusion to the Penutsta of 1 Peter 5:8-9. Indeed this sura, which is only three lines long, is one of the most difficult passages for the Arabian as well as the Western commentators. Luxenberg shows why: it is composed of transcriptions into Arabic writing of the Syriac New Testament text, i.e., there is almost no "Arabic" in the sura. These are "revealed" texts, and insofar as the Qur'an contains quotations or paraphrases of them, the Qur'an is also "revealed." ...

Many dialects of Arabic existed at the time of Muhammad. In the ten places where the Qur'an claims to have been written in Arabic, Luxenberg shows first that these passages have grammatical forms which are difficult for the commentators and have varying interpretations among the translators. He notes that in sura 41:44, the Arabic fassala means "to divide," but the context here requires "make distinct" or better "interpret." Nowhere else does the Arabic word have this meaning, and the Syriac-Arabic lexica do not give the one as a translation for the other; tarjama (a direct borrowing from Syriac) is the usual Arabic word for "interpret." However, the Syriac praš / parreš can mean both "divide" as well as "interpret" (like Hebrew hibdil; also this is an example of a "semantic calque" mentioned above). Tabari too understands fassala to be a synonym for bayyana (sura 44:3), which also has the meaning "interpret." Sura 41:44 also clearly attests to a source for the Qur'an that is written in a foreign language. Luxenberg, following Tabari, notes a corruption in the text of this verse that clearly shows that part of the Qur'an has a non-Arabic source. His argument here is somewhat weak if not for the further evidence deduced from eleven other locations in the Qur'an where Luxenberg consistently applies these and similar arguments to difficulties all of which center on the terms related to the revelation and language of the Qur'an. These arguments leave little doubt, that Luxenberg has uncovered a key misunderstanding of these terms throughout the Qur'an....

In section twelve Luxenberg demonstrates that not only the origin and language of the Qur'an are different from what the commentators who wrote two hundred years after its inception claim it to be, but that several key passages contain words or idioms that were borrowed from Syriac into Arabic. From his analysis of sura 19:24 (in the so-called "Marian Sura"): "Then he called to her from beneath her: 'Grieve not; thy Lord hath placed beneath thee a streamlet,'" he concludes that it should be read "He called to her immediately after her laying-down (to give birth 'Grieve not; thy Lord has made your laying-down legitimate.'" Luxenberg's lengthy discussion of the complexities of this passage resolve grammatical difficulties in the Arabic in a way that fits the context: Jesus gives Mary the courage to face her relatives even with a child born out of wedlock. The section then presents lengthy arguments dealing with various lexical, morphological, syntactic and versification problems in sura 11:116-117...

In that same section, one also finds a study of how Syriac roots were misread and altered by later commentators. In one case, the word jaw (sura 16:79) misread "air, atmosphere" is from Syriac gaw, which means both "insides, inner part" and can also be used as a preposition meaning "inside." In sura 16:79 Luxenberg demonstrates that the prepositional use makes more sense than the solution posed by the commentators. Classical Arabic grammar, which was created three hundred years after the Qur'an, does not recall the prepositional meaning of the word. However, dialects of Arabic preserve the original Syriac prepositional use. So where sura 16:79 reads fi jaw as-sama' "in(side) heaven" referring to birds held aloft and kept from falling down by God, the dialects agree: fi jawwat al-bet "inside the house" is perfectly good Arabic. The misreading of Qur'anic Arabic jaw as "air" has become part of the technical vocabulary of modern standard Arabic: "air mail," "air force," "airline," and "weather report" all use jaw. The imaginary meaning of the grammarians lives on. ...

Section sixteen follows this investigation as it points to a similar misreading of paradise's grapes as youths, Arabic wildun. Sura 76:19 "Round amongst them go boys of perpetual youth, whom when one see, he thinks them pearls unstrung" (sura 16.1, citing Bell's translation). Wildun is a genuinely Arabic word, but it is used in a sense which is borrowed from Syriac yalda. Youths like pearls is somewhat suspicious, especially given that "pearls" are a metaphor for the grapes of paradise from the previous section. Luxenberg uncovered that Syriac has the expression yalda dagpetta, "child of the vine," appearing in the Penutsta: Matthew 26:29, Mark 14:25, and Luke 22:18, in which Christ foreshadows his death and resurrection: "I will not drink of this child of the vine (yalda dagpetta) until the day when I drink it new in the kingdom of my Father." Here it is the juice of the grape that is the "child." Entries in the Arabic-Syriac lexica for each of yalda and gpetta give in addition to "child" and "vine" "fruit" and "wine," respectively. Luxenberg gives further evidence from suras 37:45, 43:71, and 76:15 that Ephraem the Syrian's depiction of the grapes of paradise is behind the original Qur'anic text.

A central question that this investigation raises is the motivation of cUthman in preparing his redaction of the Qur'an. Luxenberg presents the two hadith traditions recounting how cUthman came to possess the first manuscript. If Luxenberg's analysis is even in broad outline correct, the content of the Qur'an was substantially different at the time of Muhammad and cUthman's redaction played a part in the misreading of key passages. Were these misreadings intentional or not? The misreadings in general alter the Qur'an from a book that is more or less harmonious with the New Testament and Syriac Christian liturgy and literature to one that is distinct, of independent origin. " [source - book review is contained in, "HUGOYE: JOURNAL OF SYRIAC STUDIES," book review of Christoph Luxenberg (ps.) Die syro-aramaeische Lesart des Koran; Ein Beitrag zur Entschlüsselung der Qur'ansprache. Berlin, Germany: Das Arabische Buch, First Edition, 2000. Pp. ix + 306, Vol. 6, No. 1, January 2003.]>>>.

THE Reality:

Muhammad (pbuh) had Christians in his family from whom he learned about the Bible from and scribes to read it to him as he was illiterate. After learning much about the Bible, he started dictating to his scribes what he wanted written down, and as all know a process like this can only product a distorted product as compared to the original, the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, and Jacob, creator of all there is, the Bible.

Now most in Islam will not agree with this reality, the truth, per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but the facts sustain it. Let's look at his connection to Christianity through his relatives as reported in an Islamic source.

Many Muslims have argued that Muhammad only met Jews or Christians only on very few occasions, by far too short to be sufficient to gain any real knowledge of the earlier scriptures. In particular, they were not translated into Arabic at this time. The content of the Qur'an therefore does not come from human sources but can only be through direct revelation from God.

I agree that the scriptures probably did not exist in Arabic at that time, at least not completely or widely known, but with the other statements I am not in agreement. And even the non-existence of scriptures in Arabic is irrelevant as we will see in the following.

The Muslim sources tell us about a certain Waraqa bin Nawfal and in what way Muhammad was related to him.
<<<"Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3: Narrated 'Aisha:

(the mother of the faithful believers) The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good dreams which came true like bright day light, and then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continuously for many days before his desire to see his family. He used to take with him the journey food for the stay and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read.

The Prophet added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?' Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, 'Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created man from a clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous." (96.1, 96.2, 96.3) Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and after that he told her everything that had happened and said, "I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your Kith and kin, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guests generously and assist the deserving calamity-afflicted ones."

Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa bin Nawfal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the PreIslamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Hebrew letters. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to Waraqa, "Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" Allah's Apostle described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, "This is the same one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they drive me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said, "Anyone (man) who came with something similar to what you have brought was treated with hostility; and if I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while. ...

Some essential statements above:
1. "his desire to see his family."
2. "You keep good relations with your Kith and kin"

This shows that Muhammad was a "family man", and given that the middle eastern culture is well known for its family orientedness (something I very much appreciate in Muslims) and that in this setting Muhammad was seemingly even a very good example (otherwise this would not have been mentioned as special virtue) we can deduce that he probably spend much time with his relatives keeping a good relationship, and that means regular visiting.

Furthermore, nobody will deny that Muhammad was already religious before he had this first encounter in the cave on Mt. Hira. After all, he went there to meditate and pray. As the hadith says, it was a habit of his: "He USED to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continuously for many days..."

The big question now is:
What will such a religious man talk about when he visits his relatives? Would it be too much to guess that religion will be a major part of these conversations?
And what do we see happening here when Muhammad is disturbed and frightened by a "religious experience"? After calming down a bit at home with his wife, who is the person they visit first?

Waraqa bin Nawfal. Seemingly, he is seen by Khadija and Muhammad as an authority in spiritual matters. And he is the cousin of his wife. And he is a Christian familiar with the scriptures since, after all, he is making copies of the scriptures, whether for personal study or for a fellowship/church of Christians.
So, these are the facts:">>>.

So Islam's argument that he, Muhammad (pbuh) had little contact with either Jews or Christians is an outright lie as is the other claims made for the Quran. Most of the other claims are quite similar to those of Joseph Smith for the Book of Mormon; to wit, the book was received from an angel.[source - Abrahamic Religion by Iris the Preacher and can be read in its entirety at, http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=abrahamicreligions&thread=1177426618&page=1]"

But instead of facing up to reality, they say, "show it to me in the Quran."

Conclusion:

Islam hides behind the Quran and will not even face up to how it came into existence - what do you call this?  HYPOCRITS!

But the reality is they are responsible for 95% of the violence in the world per a newspaper that has been keeping count,

"The Weekend Australian (newspaper) had this to say on the matter,
<<"Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-muslims or each other?
Islam is intolerant of other religions, so much so that Christians in Nigeria, Sudan and middle eastern countries are killed for practicing their religion. Muslims are also responsible for burning down their churches. Sydney has recently seen an attack on four churches for similar reasons. (December 16, 2005) How can we tolerate such intolerance?">>."

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[2]       SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [708B]

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;  17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.  John 14:16 – 17, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, the Comforter sent after Jesus (Yeshua) went to heaven was none other than Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) active force the Holy Spirit.  And luke 11:13, [AV] “If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?”  which is further shown at Ephesians 1:13, [AV] “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,”  Therefore we should seek to do righteousness and not per Ephesians 4:30, [AV] “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”


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[3]       MEMBERS OF ISLAM LIE AND POST MISS-INFORMATION COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE TO THE CONCEPT OF LEARNING AND EDUCATION:

Let's look at some actual cases of lying and miss-information by members of Islam:

CASE 1:

What member of Islam said, with respect a Practice of a Horrible Heathen Crime Against Nature.


<<<"[[4]]How do you know true christians don't do this? Is there anything in your bible that forbids this practice?
[[1]]What about for a girl who is deformed down there and has a need for this precedure? Is it wrong for her to have it as well?
[[2]]Do you realize that women who live in very hot climates like Africa, experience swelling in that area, making this type of operation necessary for them to live a normal life?
[[3]]I have never said that muslims around the world do not have cultural practices that have little or nothing to do with Islam.... it doesn't make it wrong or right based on that alone though.">>>

Now let's look past these lies and false accusations at the truth:

FIRST [[1]], There is no medical need for this procedure.    The following article from an encyclopedia will clearly show this and the fact that it is bad for a women's health.    Saying there are medical reasons for same is nothing but AN OUTRIGHT LIE.

SECOND  [[2]], Your saying that,

<<<"in very hot climates like Africa, experience swelling in that area, making this type of operation necessary for them to live a normal life?">>> 

Is AN OUTRIGHT LIE in no way backed by medical knowledge, see article below.

THIRD  [[3]], You refuse to accept that many members of Islam practice this heathen horrible sex crime against young girls.

Is AN OUTRIGHT REJECTION OF REALITY which goes completely against the principles of education, learning, and the truth.

FOURTH [[4]], Genuine (true) followers do not practice this heathen horrible sex crime against young girls.   The statement,

<<<" How do you know true christians don't do this? Is there anything in your bible that forbids this practice?">>>

Is nothing but a deceptive question similar to the one used by Satan the Devil in the Garden of Eden, AN OUTRIGHT LIE in the form of a question.

FIFTH, LIES LIKE THIS ARE UN-EXCUSABLE, and show that any religion whose members resort to same are being controlled by Satan the Devil per John 8:44, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof." (American Standard Version; ASV).

Islam is sick as shown by a terrible heathen sex crime against nature committed by many of their members in Egypt and elsewhere.

Members of Islam Practice Horrible Heathen Crime Against Nature.   Now let's look at just what this horrible crime against nature is:

Female genital cutting (FGC) refers to the excision or tissue removal of any part of the female genitalia for cultural, religious or other non-medical reasons. It is more frequently referred to as female genital mutilation (FGM) or female circumcision (FC).
The term FGC does not refer to gender reassignment surgery or the genital modification of intersexuals.

Different terms are used to describe the act of female genital cutting, but regardless of the terminology the same practice is being referred to. Opponents of these practices tend to use the term Female Genital Mutilation (FGM), whereas groups who support and practice this ritual tend to use the term Female Circumcision (FC), which is also considered an euphemism. Advocates of male circumcision argue that the term "female circumcision" results in unwanted associations between the two practices, while genital integrity advocates might refer to all child genital cutting as mutilation.

The expression Female Genital Mutilation gained growing support in the late 1970s. The word mutilation not only established clear linguistic distinction from male circumcision, but it also emphasized the gravity of the act. In 1990, this term was adopted at the third conference of the Inter African Committee on Traditional Practices Affecting the Health of Women and Children (IAC) in Addis Ababa. In 1991, the World Health Organization recommended that the United Nations adopt this terminology and subsequently, it has been widely used in UN documents.
Amnesty International and the World Health Organization most often refer to the practice as 'Female Genital Mutilation'.[1][2][3][4]

The use of the word mutilation reinforces the idea that this practice is a violation of the human rights of girls and women, and thereby helps promote national and international advocacy towards its abandonment. At the community level, however, the term can be problematic. Local languages generally use the less judgmental "cutting" to describe the practice; parents understandably resent the suggestion that they are "mutilating" their daughters. In this spirit, in 1999, the UN called for tact and patience regarding activities in this area and drew attention to the risk of "demonizing" certain cultures, religions and communities. As a result, the term "cutting" has increasingly come to be used to avoid alienating communities.[5]

In 1996 the UNFPA-sponsored Reproductive, Educative, And Community Health program coined the term 'Female Genital Cutting', observing that 'Female Genital Mutilation' may "imply excessive judgment by outsiders as well as insensitivity toward individuals who have undergone some form of genital excision.[6]

There are several distinct practices of FGC that range in severity, depending on how much genital tissue is cut away. Four major types have been categorized (see Diagram 1), although there is some debate as to whether all common forms of FGC fit into these four categories, as well as issues with the reliability of reported data.[7]

Clitoridectomy involves the removal or splitting of the clitoral hood, termed "hoodectomy" (or "clitorodotomy"), with or without excision of the clitoris, see Diagram 1B. The clitoral hood is the female prepuce, homologous to the foreskin of the male. This term was devised in The Sudan by the Anglo-Sudanese administration in 1946 in an attempt to promote this "milder" form of FGC instead of the more severe Type III, infibulation or pharaonic circumcision, that was widely practiced.[8] Although labeled Sunna by Islamic advocates of the practice, most MusliType III is the most severe form of FGC and is called infibulation or pharaonic circumcision (referring to the Pharaohs who were thought to practice this form). Infibulation involves extensive tissue removal of the external genitalia, including all of the labia minora and the inside of the labia majora, leaving a raw open wound. The labia majora are then held together using thorns or stitching and the girl's legs are tied together for two - six weeks, to prevent her from moving and allow the healing of the two sides of the vulva. Nothing remains of the normal anatomy of the genitalia, except for a wall of flesh from the pubis down to the anus, with the exception of a pencil-size opening at the inferior portion of the vulva to allow urine and menstrual blood to pass through, see Diagram 1D. This type of FGC is often carried out by an elderly matron or midwife of the village on girls between the ages of two and six, without anaesthetic and under unhygienic conditions.[11]
A reverse infibulation can be performed to allow for sexual intercourse (often by the husband using a knife on the wedding night) or when undergoing labor, or by female relatives, whose responsibility it is to inspect the wound every few weeks and open it some more if necessary. During childbirth, the enlargement is too small to allow vaginal delivery, and so the infibulation must be opened completely and restored after delivery. Once again, the legs are tied together to allow the wound to heal, and the procedure is repeated for each subsequent act of intercourse or childbirth. When childbirth takes place in a hospital, the surgeons may preserve the infibulation by enlarging the vagina with deep episiotomies. Afterwards, the patient may insist that her vulva be closed again so that her husband does not reject her.[11]

This practice is reported to cause the disappearance of sexual pleasure for the women affected, as well as major medical complications. Most advocates of the practice continue to perform the procedure in adherence to standards of beauty that are very different from those in the west. Many infibulated women will contend that the pleasure their partners receive due to this procedure is a definitive part of a successful marriage.

m clergy oppose all forms of female genital cutting as it is viewed as a social custom, rather than a religious practice. According to Dr. Sami A. Aldeeb Abu-Salieh at the Swiss Institute of Comparative Law:

Excision refers to clitoridectomy (removal of the prepuce and the clitoris) plus the partial or total removal of the labia minora, the inner lips of the vulva, see Diagram 1C. Type II circumcision is a more extensive form of FGC compared to Type I and due to the sewing together of the leftover labia minora epidermis, which contains sweat glands, a buildup of sweat and urine in the closed off space beneath this closure can lead to local or urinary infection, septicemia, hemorrhaging and cyst formation.[10] This type of FGC is also called khafd, meaning reduction in Arabic.

Female genital cutting is today mainly practiced in African countries. It is common in a band that stretches from Senegal in West Africa to Somalia on the East coast, as well as from Egypt (Who have just banned FGC[12]) in the north to Tanzania in the south, see Map. In these regions, it is estimated that more than 95% of all women have undergone this procedure. It is also practiced by some groups in the Arabian peninsula, especially among a minority (20%) in Yemen.[13]
The countries that practice FGC the most are Somalia, followed by Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, and Mali. Among ethnic Somali women, infibulation is traditional and nearly universal. In the Arab peninsula, Sunna circumcision is usually performed, especially among Arabs (ethnic groups of African descent are more likely to prefer infibulation).

Whilst FGC is widely practiced out in the open by African Muslims, it is practiced in secrecy in some parts of the Middle East. The practice occurs particularly in northern Saudi Arabia, southern Jordan, and Iraq, and there is also circumstantial evidence to suggest it is present in Syria, western Iran and southern Turkey.[14] In Oman a few communities still practice FGC; however, experts believed that the number of such cases was small and declining annually. In the United Arab Emirates and also Saudi Arabia, it is practiced mainly among foreign workers from East Africa and the Nile Valley.

The practice can also be found among a few ethnic groups in South America and India. In Indonesia[15] the practice is fairly common among the country's Muslim women; however, in contrast to Africa, almost all are Type I or Type IV, the latter usually involving the symbolic pricking of blood release.

Due to immigration, the practice has also spread to Europe, Australia and the United States. Some tradition-minded families have their daughters undergo FGC whilst on vacation in their home countries. As Western governments become more aware of FGC, legislation has come into effect in many countries to make the practice of FGC a criminal offense. In 2006, Khalid Adem became the first man in the United States to be prosecuted for mutilating his daughter.

Medical consequences
Among practicing cultures, FGC is most commonly performed between the ages of four and eight, but can take place at any age from infancy to adolescence. Prohibition has led to FGC going underground, at times with people who have had no medical training performing the cutting without anesthetic, sterilization, or the use of proper medical instruments. The procedure, when performed without any anesthetic, can lead to death through shock from immense pain or excessive bleeding. The failure to use sterile medical instruments may lead to infections and the spread of disease, such as HIV, especially when the same instruments are used to perform procedures on multiple women.[10]

Other serious long term health effects are also common. These include urinary and reproductive tract infections, caused by obstructed flow of urine and menstrual blood, various forms of scarring and infertility. The first time having sexual intercourse will often be extremely painful, and infibulated women will need the labia majora to be opened, to allow their husband access to the vagina. This second cut, sometimes performed by the husband with a knife, can cause other complications to arise.

The health consequences of FGC vary from region to region and from researcher to researcher. An in-depth analysis by Carla Obermeyer (2003) shows that past studies, plagued by "incomplete analysis" and "inconsistent numbers", have greatly overestimated the likelihood of serious medical complications resulting from FGC procedures (401). She notes that there is no significant statistically represented relationship between FGC and sexually transmitted diseases/infections, infertility or birth complications (402). Her study illustrates how the opposers of FGC may be relying on inadequate health data to justify their opposition, and instead more meaningful and relevant medical research needs to be conducted in order to help support the cessation of this practice.

A June 2006 study by the WHO has cast doubt on the safety of genital cutting of any kind.[29] This study was conducted on a cohort of 28,393 women attending delivery wards at 28 obstetric centers in areas of Burkina Faso, Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya, Senegal and The Sudan. A high proportion of these mothers had undergone FGC. According to the WHO criteria, all types of FGC were found to pose an increased risk of death to the baby (15% for Type I, 32% for Type II, and 55% for Type III). Mothers with FGC Type III were also found to be 30% more at risk for cesarean sections and had a 70% increase in postpartum hemorrhage compared to women without FGC. Estimating from these results, and doing a rough population estimate of mothers in Africa with FGC, an additional 10 to 20 per thousand babies in Africa die during delivery as a result of the mothers having undergone genital cutting.
In cases of repairing the damage resulting from FGC, called de-infibulation when reversing Type III FGC, this is usually carried out by a gynecologist. See also Pierre Foldes, French surgeon, who developed modern surgical corrective techniques.
A 12 year-old Egyptian girl, Badour Shaker, died in June, 2007 during or soon after a circumcision. She died from an overdose of anesthesia. The girl's mother, Zeniab Abdel Ghani, paid $9.00 [or 5 British pounds] to a female doctor, in an illegal clinic in the southern town of Maghagh, for the operation. The doctor tried to give her $3,000 to withdraw a lawsuit, but the mother refused.[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]

CASE 2:

Falsely claiming a homosexual web site briefly mentioned in a post on homosexuality and making a big thing out of nothing is a form of lying.

Let's look first at what was said,
<<<" I never back things that Almighty God (YHWH) disapproves of like gay marriages, the acceptance of gay men, and lesbians such as Bishop Fred Hiltz of Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island does. You should well know that these things violate Romans 1:21-27, "because that, knowing God, they glorified him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves: 25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due." (ASV). Nor do I agree with the Muslims at GayEgypt of which the "The Middle East Times" says "GayEgypt.com has emerged as a key source of information and communication for the gay community in Egypt." It's a shame that the Muslim community as well as the apostate (counterfeit) Christian community tolerate such wrong doing.">>>

Clearly shows that homosexuality was being addressing, a wrong, per Romans 1:19-28, "because that which is known of God is manifest in them; for God manifested it unto them.  20  For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse:  21  because that, knowing God, they glorified him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened.  22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,  23  and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.  24  Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves:  25  for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.  26  For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature.  27  and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.  28  And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting;" :" (ASV), but just to distort reality the posting of this item against homosexuality brought the following lying false accusation.

<<<"Porn site on a religious form?   Why?">>>.

This is AN OUTRIGHT LIE as are all false accusations.

First, let's consider what porn  is:

"PORN, noun: creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire [source - One Look Dictionary, http://www.onelook.com/?w=porn&ls=a ]"

"Pornography, sometimes shortened to porn or porno, is, in its broadest state, the explicit representation of the human body or sexual activity with the goal of sexual arousal and/or sexual relief. It is similar to erotica, which is the use of sexually-arousing imagery used mainly for artistic purpose. Over the past few decades, an immense industry for the production and consumption of pornography has grown, due to emergence of the VCR, the DVD, and the Internet, as well as the emergence of more tolerant social attitudes.

In general, "erotica" refers to portrayals of sexually arousing material that hold or aspire to artistic or historical merit, whereas "pornography" often connotes the prurient depiction of sexual acts, with little or no artistic value. The line between "erotica" and the term "pornography" (which is frequently considered a pejorative term) is often highly subjective. In practice, pornography can be defined merely as erotica that certain people perceive as "obscene." The definition of what one considers obscene can differ between persons, cultures and eras. This leaves legal actions by those who oppose pornography open to wide interpretation. It also provides lucrative employment for armies of lawyers, on several "sides."
Pornography may use any of a variety of media - printed literature, photos, sculpture, drawing, painting, animation, sound recording, film, video, or video game. However, when sexual acts are performed for a live audience, by definition it is not pornography, as the term applies to the depiction or reproduction of the act, rather than the act itself.[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography ]"

Obviously the mention of a homosexual site with respect its wrong is definitely not a portrayal of anything to arouse "erotic" responses in any one.  So the accusation was nothing but AN OUTRIGHT LIE.

Second, No where on the GayEgypt site was there any "erotic" material, and the "roughest" item was only an obviously Arab man with a bare but not in any "erotic" pose that would qualify as porn.  Everything was much more tame than many beaches in France.

Third, Here is what others said of the site - clearly identifying it as a homosexual site being run by members of Islam and not a porn site:


[1] Global Gayz...Gay Egypt
Today, there is only one site -- www.gayegypt.com -- left, and it is run from ... Being gay and Muslim is another conundrum for most Egyptian homosexuals. ...
www.globalgayz.com/g-egypt2.html - 69k - Cached - Similar pages

[2] [PDF]
Internet Filtering in Iran in 2004-2005 1
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Our first run of testing found blocking of 39% of sex education sites, compared with ... gayegypt.com, gay.ru, and gaytoday.badpuppy.com) as ...
[source - www.cambridge-security.net/pdf/ONI-iran-country-study.pdf]

[3] Cultural Struggle Finds Symbol in Gay Cairo
Internet sites such as GayEgypt.com had taken to describing "handsome youths" ... Gay Muslim groups in several countries have established support groups and ...
[source - www.sodomylaws.org/world/egypt/egnews49.htm]

[4] FEBRUARY 2002 - FRENCH PRESIDENT CHIRAC DENOUNCES EGYPT'S GAY ...
Already GayEgypt.com and its' satellite site Arab-Men.com are spreading the .... it was alleged that they had run an apartment for homosexual prostitution. ...
[source - www.gayegypt.com/january2002.html]

[5] Dissecting Leftism -- Large font site
Muslim against Muslim: "The latest reliable report confirms that on ...... of Terror," while the website GayEgypt.com has dubbed him the "Dr. Goebbels of ...
[source - jonjayray.blogspot.com/2005_07_01_archive.html]

[6] Prisoners of Sex
"When a Muslim dies, there is a required 30 minutes of prayer," she wrote to ... A Web site called GayEgypt.com called on Egypt's homosexuals to wear red on ...
[source - www.whrnet.org/fundamentalisms/docs/issue-prisoners-0612.html]

[7] Popular Pakistani Cross-dresser Pushing Boundaries [Archive ...
- [ Translate this page ]
Do you or others, specially our Muslim members, would like to find out if this behavior is .... Again, they run this site, they deserve to decide. ...
[source - sci.rutgers.edu/forum/archive/index.php/t-63125.html

[[Notice all those sites mention "gay" the euphemism for homosexual, not porn.]]

Fourth, Email from GayEgypt site administrator:

<<<"Many thanks for your email. re GayEgypt.com it's in large part an information site but it contains a very few photographs and a few stories which might be described as pornographic, certainly it's a website for adults 18+ only.

Please find the following links regarding essays on the Prophet Muhammad and early Islam from a Queer persepctive. The Quran, Gay Sex and the Gang Rape at Sodom. http://www.gayegypt.com/wasmqueer1.html The prophet marries his former slave Zaid http://www.gayegypt.com/wasmqueer2.html Ali becomes Muhammad's sleeping partner http://www.gayegypt.com/wasmqueer3.html The Quraish suspect a relationship between the Prophet and his uncle http://www.gayegypt.com/wasmqueer4.html The Prophet Muhammad and his relationships with older women. http://www.gayegypt.com/wasmqueer5.html Why early Islam needed queer relationships. http://www.gayegypt.com/earlyislam.html Hope that helps. Best wishes Ali Asali for GayEgypt.com .">>>

It is unquestionably a site run by members of Islam as who else would be concerned about what the Prophet Muhammad  (pbuh) did that might be considered "gay", but Muslim "gays."

Falsely accusing one writing against homosexuality of posting porn when what was posted was a homosexual site quite in keeping with what was being written about.    Of course the accusation is NOTHING BUT AN OUTRIGHT LIE.

Why do members of Islam so lie?   Simple, to cover up the salient fact that members of Islam are running one of the largest homosexual sites in the world - they can not stand the truth, but must un-justly denounce the messenger or bringer of fact.

CASE 3: This poster said the following lie,

<<<"I do not lie Iris and it's not very loving of you to continously insist that I would knowingly pass on false information as a liar.>>>"

We have already seen that he tells OUTRAGEOUS LIES in CASE 1 and CASE 2, so this statement is just an OUTRIGHT LIE ITSELF.

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