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MAKING THE MOST OF LIFE TODAY, THIS VOL 878B (1) INTERESTING SOURCE FOR READING THE BIBLE ON LINE, and, DANIEL: A LIFETIME OF FAITH—PART I [2] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY, A LINK TO A DATA SERIES ON MANY SUBJECTS, INTRODUCTION TO JUDE, A BIBLE STUDY, AND 2 VIDEO, [3] A DISCOURSE ON ISAIAH 9:6, WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: [4] FOR A HAPPY MARRIAGE: READ GOD’S WORD , [5] YOUR FAMILY CAN BE HAPPY, [6] ,WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT MARRIAGE? [7] FOR A HAPPY MARRIAGE: WHEN VIEWPOINTS DIFFER,
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[2] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [878B]
“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” John 4:22 – 24, [authorized King James Bible; AV]
As 2 Corinthians 13:11,says, [AV] “Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.” All genuine worshippers of Almighty God (YHWH), whould be per Romans 16:17, [AV] “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” And this is further testified to in Romans 15:5 – 6, [AV] “Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: 6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
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“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6 ASV-American Standard Version)
“parvulus enim natus est nobis filius datus est nobis et factus est principatus super umerum eius et vocabitur nomen eius Admirabilis consiliarius Deus fortis Pater futuri saeculi Princeps pacis” (Isaiah 9:6 Latin Vulgate)
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6 AV)
Built around, “Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible” by Fausset B. Jamieson with scriptures given in sets for many different Bible translations to avoid the bias of any one:
1)Isaiah 9:6. For--the ground of these great expectations, unto us--for the benefit of the Jews first, and then the Gentiles (compare "unto you," “for there is born to you this day in the city of David a Saviour, who is Christ the Lord.” ( Luke 2:11 ASV) son . . . given—“I will tell of the decree: Jehovah said unto me, Thou art my son; This day have I begotten thee.” (Psalms 2:7 ASV). God's gratuitous gift, on which man had no claim, ““ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16 AV) and “ For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Romans 6:23 AV). [[You will note that Jehovah (YHWH) called his his son, “Thou art my son” that he have because he so loved the world]]
2)Government . . . upon . . . shoulder--The ensign of office used to be worn on the shoulder, in token of sustaining the government “I will give him the key to the house of David – the highest position in the royal court. He will open doors, and no one will be able to shut them; he will close doors, and no one will be able to open them.” (Isaiah 22:22 New Living Translation). Here the government on Messiah's shoulder is in marked antithesis to the "yoke and staff" of the oppressor on Israel's "shoulder" “For God will break the chains that bind his people and the whip that scourges them, just as he did when he destroyed the army of Midian with Gideon's little band.” (Isaiah 9:4 New Living Translation). He shall receive the kingdom of the earth from the Father, to vindicate it from the misrule of those to whom it was entrusted to hold it for and under the Most High, but who sought to hold it in defiance of His right; the Father asserts His right by the Son, the "Heir of all things," who will hold it for Him “"I saw in the night visions, and behold, one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him near before Him. [[Notice God (YHWH) figuratively gave him “the key to the house of David” and that he, Jesus (Jeshua) would “receive the kingdom of the earth from his Father (YHWH), so they were obviously two distinct entities with the superior, YHWH, giving things to the lessor, his son, Jesus (Jeshua)]]
3)And there was given Him dominion and glory and a Kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and His Kingdom that which shall not be destroyed” (Daniel 7:13,14 Third Millennium Bible). name . . . called--His essential characteristics shall be. “And the angel of the LORD said unto him, "Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it is secret?" (Judges 13:18 Third Millennium Bible), “Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in [the] world, was received up in glory.’” (1 Timothy 3:16 NWT). [[note, here again they are shown to be two distinct entities with the superior, YHWH, giving things to the lessor, his son, Jesus (Jeshua)]]
4)Counsellor-- “I shall bless Jehovah, who has given me advice. Really, during the nights my kidneys have corrected me.” (Psalms 16:7 NWT), “Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and the knowledge of God! How unsearchable His judgments and untraceable His ways!” (Romans 11:33-34 The Holman Christian Standard Bible), “Yet to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is God's power and God's wisdom, “ (1 Corinthians 1:24 The Holman Christian Standard Bible), “In him lie hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.” (Colossians 2:3 The New Living Translation).
5)A mighty God—“ A remnant of them will return to the Mighty God.” (Isaiah 10:21 The New Living Translation), “Who is the King of glory? The LORD, strong and mighty, the LORD, mighty in battle!” ( Psalms 24:8 Revised Standard Version), “awaiting our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,” (Titus 2:13 Revised Standard Version). HORSLEY translates: "God the mighty man." "Unto us . . . God" is equivalent to "Immanuel" “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: behold, an almah shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanu'el.” (Isaiah 7:14 Hebrew Names Version). [[Note, here it brings out the lessor one, Jesus (Jeshua), is given by the superior one, God Almighty (WHYH) as a sign, see Isaiah 7:14 above]]
6)Everlasting Father--This marks Him as "Wonderful," that He is "a child," yet the "everlasting Father" “Yeshua said to him, "Have I been with you such a long time, and do you not know me, Pilipos? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How do you say, 'Show us the Father?'” (John 14:9 Hebrew Names Version). Earthly kings leave their people after a short reign; He will reign over and bless them for ever [HENGSTENBERG]. “The sceptre shall not be taken away from Juda, nor a ruler from his thigh, till he come that is to be sent, and he shall be the expectation of nations.” (Genesis 49:10 Douay-Rheims Bible) (Shiloh, "The Tranquillizer"). Finally “And in that day I will make a covenant with them, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of the air, and with the creeping things of the earth: and I will destroy the bow, and the sword, and war out of the land: and I will make them sleep secure.” (Hosea 2:18 Douay-RheimsBible). Even already He is "our peace" “Glory to God in the highest, and on the earth peace among men with whom he is well pleased.” (Luke 2:14 The Bible in Basic English), “For he is our peace, who has made the two into one, and by whom the middle wall of division has been broken down,” (Ephesians 2:14 The Bible in Basic English). [[Here Jesus (Jeshua), the lessor one, lets it be known that he is the glory of his Father, the superior one (YHWH)]]
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17 (Philippians 2:5-8 AV). He was referred to in prophecy in the Old Testament as a Mighty God, but not as the Almighty God (YHWH), which clearly shows he was a very powerful spirit creature second in power and glory only to his Father “ For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6 AV). When the proper time arrived, he was sent by his Father, ), Almighty God (YHWH), to earth “ But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,” (Galatians 4:4 AV), “And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. 34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” (Luke 1:30-35 AV).
Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) is clearly the son of Almighty God (YHWH). With respect to his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) the scriptures clearly show he always existed “ Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.” (Psalms 90:2 AV); whereas, with Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) the scriptures clearly show “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:” (Colossians 1:14-15 AV), and likewise call him ““ For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6 AV). Notice, he is NOT called Almighty God, but mighty God; quite different from his Father. Furthermore, he is called, “The everlasting Father,” I want you to notice how it says that this Son will be called “Everlasting Father”. But wait, notice it says “Son” will be “called”. How is one to understand that a “Son” will be called a “Father”? We see many people do not understand this scripture, and “think” they do understand.” “ Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?” (Matthew 26:53 AV), Now we understand that there has to be someone else in order for this to be true. “ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.” (John 17:11 AV), obviously, you do not have to be a scientist to know there is two beings involved here. “ As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.” (John 6:57 AV), here also, it is so obvious that two entities are being spoken about a 4 th. Grader would see it.
Now we understand that The Son is not The Father. So why does it say in Isaiah 9:6 that The Son will be called “Everlasting Father”? Let’s look at some scripture, John 17:22-26 AV, “And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24 ¶ Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.” “ Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” (John 14:10 AV); The Father dwells in the Son, so now we know why The Son is “called” Everlasting Father, because the Everlasting Father is in the Son. So the understanding is: If I come to to The Son and say to him “Father”, he will reply, Yes, Son?”. But why is he called the mighty God? The Father is the Almighty God, so if I come to to The Son and say to him “mighty God”, he will reply, “Yes, what can I do for you?”. This is because the Almighty God (YHWH) dwells in The Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves). To sumarize, I will provide some scripture for a further understanding, “ Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. 21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled 22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: 23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister; 24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church: Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; 26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: 29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.” (Colossians 1:12-29 AV), “ And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” (1 John 5:20 AV), and this is one of my favorite scriptures that explains that The True God is in The Son, and we are in The True God who is in The Son, try reading the scriptures above where the Father is in The Son and we in The Father and we in The Son. So now the understanding is clear that the Son is not the Almighty God (YHWH), and the Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), is not the Everlasting Father. Let the truth be known, “ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” (Deuteronomy 6:4 AV), this is Unsullied Monotheism That Does Not Support Unity For Another.
For additional proof/evidence the Trinity is false dogma, go to the resources mentioned in these writings and especially to the following Links:
(The Two Babylons, by Rev. Alexander Hilsop)
(The Great Debate Regarding The Father, Son & Holy Spirit; An exhaustive verse-by-verse, side-by-side; by Roger Wagner)
(book on great trinitarian/arius debate on line)
(against Trinity clearly shows father and son different)
("Jesus-God or the Son of God?" by Brian Holt – one of the best)
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Re: Scripture of the Day
MAKING THE MOST OF LIFE TODAY, THIS VOL 879B (1) INTERESTING SOURCE FOR READING THE BIBLE ON LINE, and, DANIEL: A LIFETIME OF FAITH—PART I [2] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY, A LINK TO A DATA SERIES ON MANY SUBJECTS, INTRODUCTION TO REVELATION, A BIBLE STUDY, AND 2 VIDEO, [3] DISCOURSE ON ISAIAH 9:7 [4] STRENGTH COMES FROM SERVING JEHOVAH, [5] CORRUPT POLITICIANS—WHAT GOD’S KINGDOM WILL DO , [6] WHAT IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD? [7] IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD IN YOUR HEART?
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COMBINATION OF [2] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [3] DISCOURSE ON ISAIAH 9:7
[2] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [879B]
“in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:21 – 23, [authorized King James Bible; AV]
As shown in Deuteronomy 32:- 29, [AV] “For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them. 29 O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!” clearly showing that many are ‘stiff necked’ and confident in their own wisdom instead of obeying Almighty God (YHWH). But those who desire truth shall seek after it and win God’s approval per Psalms 51:6, [AV] “Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.”
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[3] DISCOURSE ON ISAIAH 9:7
“Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.” (Isaiah 9:7 AV)
Isaiah 9:7 is a prophecy of what we pray for in the prayer given by Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) at “9 ¶ After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. 14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” (Matthew 6:9-15 AV) It shows that God Almighty (YHWH) has purposed to have his righteousness done on earth as it is in Heaven at his own due time and to have his son, by Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), rule it. This will happen at the end-times, and even God’s son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), does not know when this will happen, but only his Father (YHWH), “ But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” (Matthew 24:36 AV). This clearly shows a superior, the Father (YHWH), who has control of everything, and a lessor or subordinate, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), who does his Father (YHWH) will. In fact, this arrangement is clearly defined as to order, “ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV). The Bible clearly shows that the superior, Almighty God (YHWH) will subject all things onto his son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), until he gets them into order for him (YHWH) and then the son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), will subject himself to him, “ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV). The son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), is clearly shown as subordinate and only being able to do what his Father (YHWH) permits, “ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19 AV).
The son’s rule is pictured as ruling over a perpetual kingdom where his perpetual princely rule shall increase and be unlimited at “ And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.” (Daniel 2:44 AV), and this is just another prophecy about the fulfillment of the Lord’s prayer previously given. He will figuratively sit on the throne of David “ Therefore now, LORD God of Israel, keep with thy servant David my father that thou promisedst him, saying, There shall not fail thee a man in my sight to sit on the throne of Israel; so that thy children take heed to their way, that they walk before me as thou hast walked before me.” (1 Kings 8:25 AV) to fulfill the promise God (YHWH) had made to David about the Messiah, “ The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.” (Psalms 132:11 AV), the Lord (a title and not a name) here being Almighty God (YHWH) as Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) had not yet entered the scene. “Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7 ¶ I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.” (Psalms 2:6-8 AV), clearly shows God’s (YHWH’s) intent to put his son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), whom he had begotten, on the figurative throne of David as part of “thine inheritance” with respect “the utter most parts of the earth.” “At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart. 18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.” (Jeremiah 3:17-18 AV), here it clearly shows that God (YHWH) was applying the throne of David not just to the nation of Israel (Judah), but to the entire earth. God (YHWH) then reiterates his intent, “And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. 24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it. 25 And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods. 26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.,” (Ezekiel 34:23-26 AV), here God Almighty is likening his son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) to the ancient King David who was a shepherd, “And I will set up one shepherd over them” “and I the LORD [YHWH] will be their God, and my servant David a prince [Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves)] among them.” “Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: 17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. 18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these? 19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. 20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes. 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:” (Ezekiel 37:16-22 AV) clearly shows the Lord GOD (YHWH) since Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) had not yet entered the scene and proved his faithfulness to his Father, YHWH, and that he would put the “children of Israel” under a king who would be “one king shall be a king to them all” [all here means everyone obedient to him, otherwise the Lord’s prayer would not be valid]. This is made very sure and clear in the New Testament, “He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.” Luke 1:32-33 AV), here God the Almighty (YHWH) speaks of his Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), and says he, the Lord (JHWH) shall give it to him, his Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), clearly showing once more a superior, Almighty God (YHWH), giving something to a lessor or subordinate, his son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves). This relationship is once more reinforced at “ Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;” (Acts 2:30 AV), clearly shows once more a superior, God (YHWH) stating under “sworn with an oath” to give Christ, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), a lessor or subordinate the figurative throne of David.
This will not be a kingdom of mere might, and triumph of force over its enemies, but of righteousness and justice attainable only in and by the Messiah, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), and this is made clear “ The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness’ sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.” (Isaiah 42:21 AV), “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.” (Psalms 45:6-7 AV). With respect ‘zeal’ this includes not only Christ’s, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), hidden spiritual victory over the Devil during his first coming, but the principle one that will be accompanied with the ‘judgments’ on the Antichrist and all other enemies at his second coming, “ For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.” (Isaiah 59:17 AV), “O thou enemy, destructions are come to a perpetual end: and thou hast destroyed cities; their memorial is perished with them. 7 But the LORD shall endure for ever: he hath prepared his throne for judgment. 8 And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.” (Psalms 9:6-8 AV).
Last, but not least, Note, also, that this son did not exist at the time the prophet was giving the message for the future tense is talked about. Note, also, that this son is talked about as having to be conceived and born in order to exist. Note that this special son is not talked about as already existing and taking on a new form as The Trinitarian Doctrine would require it. In fact, how can a son be co-equal and co-existent with his father? The Doctrine of The Trinity defies the universally accepted and historically always held meaning of the words for father and son. Not only does it defy the meaning of these words, it destroys their meaning! This fact is important to realize for God gave us language. It was not invented by man as the evolutionist tries to say. Thus, we are not destroying man made terms, but God-given terms! These terms, as given to us by God, require that the father exists before the son, and for the son to be brought into existence by the father. This universally accepted and recognized definition is what these terms have meant from the beginning of this creation. Therefore, who has given anyone the authority to change these God-given terms now? In fact, The Lord Jesus Christ verifies the meaning of these terms when he says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." (John 13:16 AV) "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (John 14:28 AV).
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MAKING THE MOST OF LIFE TODAY, THIS VOL 880B (1) INTERESTING SOURCE FOR READING THE BIBLE ON LINE, and, LEARN FROM JESUS, “MY KINGDOM IS NO PART OF THIS WORLD” [2] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY, A LINK TO A DATA SERIES ON MANY SUBJECTS, INTRODUCTION TO GENESIS, A BIBLE STUDY, AND 2 VIDEO, [3] DISCOURSE ON JESUS BEFORE HE WAS BORN A MAN ON EARTH: [4] BIBLE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, WILL WE EVER HAVE ONE GOVERNMENT FOR THE WHOLE WORLD? [5] BIBLE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, WHAT WILL GOD’S KINGDOM ACCOMPLISH? [6] GOD’S KINGDOM—A GOVERNMENT WITH NO CORRUPTION, [7] A REAL HOPE FOR A BETTER TOMORROW,
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[2] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [880B]
“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. “ John 17:3, [authorized King James Bible; AV]
Yes, life eternal is knowing the only true God, Almighty God (YHWH), and His son, Jesus (Yeshua), and not from greedy gain per Proverbs 15:27, [AV] “He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live.” Aman should speak with joy per Proverbs 15:23, [AV] “A man hath joy by the answer of his mouth: and a word spoken in due season, how good is it!” As 1 Samuel 8:23, [AV] “And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.” And onto God and His son.
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[3] DISCOURSE ON JESUS BEFORE HE WAS BORN A MAN ON EARTH:
Before the life force of Jesus was put into the Virgin Mary, he was the firstborn/created of every creature, ““ Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:” (Colossians 1:15 AV), “ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;” (Revelation 3:14 AV). He was a powerful spirit being, the only begotten of his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) and had the glory that went with his position at the right hand of his Father “ And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.” (John 17:5 AV). He was created by his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) long before the creation of the earth “ Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:58 AV). Almighty God (YHWH) created all other things through him “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.” (Colossians 1:16-17 AV), “ He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.” (John 1:10 AV). However, then and now, he was a lessor or subordinate to ). Almighty God (YHWH) “ Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 AV), “ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV), “ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19 AV), “ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV), “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.” (Philippians 2:5-8 AV). He was referred to in prophecy in the Old Testament as a Mighty God, but not as the Almighty God (YHWH), which clearly shows he was a very powerful spirit creature second in power and glory only to his Father “ For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6 AV). When the proper time arrived, he was sent by his Father, ), Almighty God (YHWH), to earth “ But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,” (Galatians 4:4 AV), “And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” (Luke 1:30-35 AV).
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[2] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [881B]
“And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. “ 2 Timothy 3:15 – 17, [authorized King James Bible; AV]
Young Timothy was well reported on by one and all and the Apostle Paul assisted him on becoming more mature is the truth as reported on at acts 16:1 – 3, [AV] “Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: 2 Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium. 3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.” And as noted by the Apostle John, at John 20:31, [AV] “But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.” And the Apostle John went on to record Jesus (Yeshua) thoughts at, John 14:26, [AV] “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
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[3] A DISCOURSE ON UNDERSTANDING JOHN 1:1.
This discourse will not go down into an in depth explanation of the translating challenges provided by the rather unusual construction of the Apostle John’s original writing in Koine (ancient) Greek. Sufficient to say the ancient Greek language had a certain amount of ambiguity as does modern English. Most English translations including the Authorized King James Version (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) (TNAB), New world Translation (NWT), Goodspeed, Torrey, New English of 1961, Moffatt of 1972, International English Bible (IEB), International Bible Translators N.T. 1981 (IBT), Philip Harner of 1974, Translator's NT of 1973 (TNT), Scholar's Version of 1993, etc. have all made an effort to make the scriptures easier to read and have tried to remove ambiguity of the original text. For example, if the literal text were to say: "The love of God". The translator may decide to translate the text: "God's love for you", or he might translate it: "Your love for God". The reader can interpret the original text either way. when the translator chooses one of the ways to translate a text and eliminates the ambiguity, you miss the opportunity to view the text in other ways. The reader must (if objectivity is to be maintained) keep in mind that the translators of any Bible version were believers in one of the doctrine or beliefs with regard how God Almighty (YHWH), Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), and the spirit or Holy Ghost relate to each other of which there are five principle beliefs, Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, Arian Theology, Unitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology. Therefore, bias will and does exist in translation depending on the translator’s theology. This is especially true with respect John 1:1 because of its unique and ambiguous grammatical structure it allows for translators to translate it at least nine different ways that all have equal validity from the language structure point of view, in that none of these can either A discourse on understanding John 1:1.
This discourse will not go down into an in depth explanation of the translating challenges provided by the rather unusual construction of the Apostle John’s original writing in Koine (ancient) Greek. Sufficient to say the ancient Greek language had a certain amount of ambiguity as does modern English. Most English translations including the Authorized King James Version (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) (TNAB), New world Translation (NWT), Goodspeed, Torrey, New English of 1961, Moffatt of 1972, International English Bible (IEB), International Bible Translators N.T. 1981 (IBT), Philip Harner of 1974, Translator's NT of 1973 (TNT), Scholar's Version of 1993, etc. have all made an effort to make the scriptures easier to read and have tried to remove ambiguity of the original text. For example, if the literal text were to say: "The love of God". The translator may decide to translate the text: "God's love for you", or he might translate it: "Your love for God". The reader can interpret the original text either way. when the translator chooses one of the ways to translate a text and eliminates the ambiguity, you miss the opportunity to view the text in other ways. The reader must (if objectivity is to be maintained) keep in mind that the translators of any Bible version were believers in one of the doctrine or beliefs with regard how God Almighty (YHWH), Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), and the spirit or Holy Ghost relate to each other of which there are five principle beliefs, Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, Arian Theology, Unitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology. Therefore, bias will and does exist in translation depending on the translator’s theology. This is especially true with respect John 1:1 because of its unique and ambiguous grammatical structure it allows for translators to translate it at least nine different ways that all have equal validity from the language structure point of view, in that none of these can either be proven totally correct or incorrect, i.e., a translator’s nightmare. In an unusual case like this the translator can only fall back on related text with similar structure and his own belief system, BIAS.
Now, let’s look at the original Koine Greek writing as shown in the work of Westcott & Hort Interlinear (John 1:1-3):
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Now let’s look at the three most common renderings of John 1:1 into modern English with a brief mention of some of the Bibles that follow each:
1. “ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (John 1:1 AV)
This style rendering is found in most of the Bibles translations made by believers in the Trinitarian Theology and include the Authorized King James Version (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) (TNAB), etc.
2. “In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.” (John 1:1 NWT)
This style rendering is found in most of the Bible translations made by believers in the Arian theology
And many translators of no particular theology and include The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin 1883, NWT, Belsham N.T. 1809, Leicester Ambrose, 1879, Robert Young, 1885, (Concise Commentary), Greek Orthodox /Arabic translation, 1983,etc.
3. “In the beginning there was the Message. The Message was with God. The Message was deity.” (John 1:1 International Bible Translators N.T. 1981).
This style rendering is found in most of the Bible translations made by believers in the Unitarian Theology and by some of Arian Theology And many translators of no particular theology and include the International Bible Translators N.T. (IBT), Translator's NT of 1973, Goodspeed of 1939, Moffatt of 1972, Simple English Bible, etc.
Now a short summary of the various beliefs of the varies theological views with respect the nature of God Almighty (YHWH), Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and the spirit or Holy Ghost and how each views the relationships between each:
five principle beliefs, Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, Arian Theology, Unitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology.
ARIAN THEOLOGY - They believe that there is one God, and that God is one. That God is called the Heavenly Father (YHWH). That we have one Lord who is not God, Jesus Christ (Jeshua or YHWH saves), who is the son of God (son of YHWH). And they believe the holy Spirit is the influence of God's power. The Father (YHWH) and Son (Jeshua or YHWH saves), are separate beings and the Father (YHWH) is superior in power, wisdom and authority. Jesus is God's express image and was given all power on heaven and earth.
ONENESS THEOLOGY - They believe that the Father (YHWH), the Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and the Holy Spirit are the same God with no distinction in person or being. That only one God simply manifests himself in these three ways at different times.
UNIQUENESS - They believe that they are unique in that they conform strictly to the objective of having only one God where as others have more than one God.
SABELLIANISM THEOLOGY - God is three only in relation to the world, in so many "manifestations" or "modes." The unity and identity of God are such that the Son of God, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) did not exist before the incarnation; because the Father (YHWH) and the Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) are thus one, the Father (YHWH) suffered with the Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) in his passion and death.
ENLARGED INFORMATION ON THE DIFFERENT BELIEVES:
UNIQUENESS - They believe that God is one in earthly manifestations, but not heavenly. [Branham's Bible Believers, Inc.][ to Branham's 1189 page book "Conduct, Order, Doctrine of the Church," the "First thing is to straighten out you on your 'trinity' Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. "God is like a three-foot rule... The first twelve inches was God, the Father; the second twelve inches, God, the Son, the same God; the third twelve inches was God, the Holy Ghost, the same God," (pp.182 & 184). Branham clarifies his position in a speech given October 2, 1957 when he exclaims, "See, there cannot be an Eternal son, because a son had to have a beginning. And so Jesus had a beginning, God had no beginning," (Ibid, p.273).]
[[Note, this has much in common with Oneness Theology]]
TRINITARIAN THEOLOGY - They believe that there is one God, but God is made up of three separate and distinct persons of but one indivisible essence. That these three persons existed from eternity, and are co-equal in power and substance. These individuals are known as Father (YHWH), Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and the Holy Spirit. The undivided essence of God belongs equally to each of the three persons. The Church (Catholic, Orthodox, and most Protestants) confesses the Trinity to be a mystery beyond the comprehension of man.
UNITARIAN THEOLOGY
They believe that there is one God, the Father (YHWH), and one Lord, Jesus Christ (Jeshua or YHWH saves). Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) became God's son at his birth on earth but had not exist previously. The holy Spirit is God's power.
Note: for more details see: The Encyclopedia Britannica; The Great Debate Regarding The Father, Son & Holy Spirit by Roger Wagner (on line at ); The Two Babylons by Rev. Alexander Hilsop (on line at ); (minutes of the Council of Constantinopile in 381AD); ; ; ; ; ; ; etc.
Now that we have considered who believes what, let’s consider the meaning of John 1:1. The believers in the Trinity Theology of course translate it to make it appear that the Almighty God Father (YHWH) and his, Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) are one ant the same, but is this reasonable when considered with other Bible text? No it is not as Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) son ,Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) is clearly shown to be a lesser one than his father, consider, “ Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 AV) where the same writer of John 1:1 clearly shows the Father (YHWH) as being greater as he does again at “ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19 AV) where the Apostle John quotes Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) as saying, “The Son can do nothing of himself.” These two verses both in the same book as John 1:1 make it clear that whereas grammatically speaking John 1:1 could be rendered as in the Authorized King James Version it can not be correctly rendered this way due to the contents of the remainder of the Book of John. The writings of Paul even make this clearer, “ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV), “ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV), “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.” (Philippians 2:5-8 AV). All these scriptures show Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) was obedient to his father (YHWH) and subordinate to his father (YHWH). Clearly this shows the error of Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology.
But let’s for argument sake say that the Father and the Son are one God as these three groups claim, we are left with a gap that can not be closed in their theories and the way their biased Bible translators translate John 1:1. Even if we are to accept the way these biased translators translated John 1:1, this verse can in no way be interpreted to justify a “triune” God. Let’s do a little analysis, it is immediately obvious from reading this verse translated with a Trinitarian/Oneness/Sabellianism bias that at most we are speaking of a “duality” and not a “triune” God. Even the most resolute Trinitarian/Oneness/Sabellianism believer will never be able to be able to find any mention in this verse of any “merging” of a Holy Ghost with God and with “the word.” So even if we accept at face value the rendering in the Authorized King James Version, and have faith, even then, we find ourselves commanded/directed to believe in a “duality” and not a “trinity.” In the original ancient (Koine) Greek, manufscript, “the word” is described as “ton theos” (divine/a god) and not as being “ho theos” (the Divine/the God). In my opinion, the writer of this discourse, this verse should be translated something like the following, “In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was divine.” You will note Word was NOT capitalized in this as no indication or grammatical structure in the original would indicates it should be capitalized; of course this is NOT in accordance with any of the common Bibles such as the Authorized King James (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) TNAB, the New World Translation (NWT), The New Testament, An American Translation, Goodspeed’s Translation, Moffatt’s Translation (which uses Logas instead of Word), etc.
Another point to consider, is other verses using “ho theos” in the Bible in the original Koine Greek; such as “ In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” (2 Corinthians 4:4 AV) We find the same word (“ho theos”) being used in John 1:1 to describe God Almighty (YHWH) is now used to describe the Devil, then why should it be changed from simply translating it as “the god” when referring to the Devil while “divine” is translated as “God” when referring to “the Word”? Also, as previously dealt with, why is Word capitalized? The term god can be applied to anyone with an elevated position as shown by “ I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.” (Psalms 82:6 AV). In fact, The Catholic New World Dictionary to the New American Bible, 1970 candidly admits, "In the New Testament, the Greek Theos with the article (The God) means the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ (see Rom. 1:7; 1 Cor. 1:3; 2 Cor. 1:2; etc.). Thus God is almost the name of the first person of the blessed Trinity. Without the article, God designates the divinity, and so is applicable to the pre-existing Word (Jn. 1:3). The term God is applied to Jesus in only a few texts, and even their interpretation is under dispute (Jn. 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Tit. 2:13; 2 Pet. 1:1)." This clearly proves the point that the translators with a Trinitarian Theology bias have little or no support for their way of translating John 1:1.
Yet another point to consider is the meaning of Father and of Son, “The Doctrine of The Trinity defies the universally accepted and historically always held meaning of the words for father and son. Not only does it defy the meaning of these words, it destroys their meaning! This fact is important to realize for God gave us language. It was not invented by man as the evolutionist tries to say. Thus, we are not destroying man made terms, but God-given terms! These terms, as given to us by God, require that the father exists before the son, and for the son to be brought into existence by the father. This universally accepted and recognized definition is what these terms have meant from the beginning of this creation. Therefore, who has given anyone the authority to change these God-given terms now? In fact, The Lord Jesus Christ verifies the meaning of these terms when he says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." John 13:16 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." John 14:28. Here, he establishes that God is his lord, that he was sent by his lord, that God is his Father, and that his Father is greater than he himself. How could any of these declarations be true if the Doctrine of The Trinity is true? It is clearly impossible for these declarations of The Lord Jesus Christ to be true and the Doctrine of The Trinity to be True! It is easy to see that these words of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Doctrine of the Trinity are mutually exclusive and opposing views!
Now notice that verses fifteen and sixteen of John chapter thirteen require that this special son has to learn the difference between good and evil. If he was God, then how could such a statement apply? Isn't God omniscient? Isn't this passage teaching us that this special son would have to go through a learning process like every other normal natural human being? Isn't it telling us that he at one time did not know the difference between good and evil? Isn't it teaching us that he would have to learn to refuse the evil and choose the good? The answer to these questions is obviously yes! It doesn't take someone with a doctorate degree to answer them. In fact, the only too obvious answer to all of these questions destroys The Trinitarian concept of this special son. Furthermore, this conclusion from this passage is verified by what is said about The Lord Jesus Christ in The New Testament. Consider the following passages:
And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him. Luke 2:40.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. Luke 2:52.
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matt. 24:36.
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Mark 13:32.
For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. John 5:20.
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. Acts 1:7
The revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John. Rev. 1:1.
At this point, let us briefly look at the implications of the above listed passages. We will take them in the order in which we quoted them.” ( an excerpt from a letter of Bro. Scaramastro).
Now as can be readily seen from the foregoing, John 1:1 can definitely be translated at least nine different ways that all have equal validity from the language structure point of view, in that none of these can either be proven totally correct or incorrect; however, by reasoning and looking at other text using the same word, we can see even if we accept translations having a “triune” God bias there is only a “duality” shown, but the same word used elsewhere indicates this is not the way it should be translated. Since this discourse is meant for ordinary readers and not translators no in-depth details of translation are dealt with; however, for those wanting more detail with respect translation see:
See Appendix on John 1:1:
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MAKING THE MOST OF LIFE TODAY, THIS VOL 882B (1) INTERESTING SOURCE FOR READING THE BIBLE ON LINE, and, HOW TO BE RESILIENT WHAT IS RESILIENCE? [2] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY, A LINK TO A DATA SERIES ON MANY SUBJECTS, INTRODUCTION TO LEVITICUS, A BIBLE STUDY, AND 2 VIDEO, [3] THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES, SPECIFICALLT CAMPOMANESIA XANTHOCARPA O : [4] LIFE WITHOUT SUFFERING—A TRUSTWORTHY PROMISE, [5] BIBLE VERSES EXPLAINED, REVELATION 21:4 EXPLAINED?—“HE WILL WIPE AWAY EVERY TEAR” [6] BIBLE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. THE BOOK OF REVELATION?—WHAT DOES IT MEAN? [7] BIBLE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, WHAT IS THE SEVEN-HEADED WILD BEAST OF REVELATION CHAPTER 13?
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[2] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [882B]
“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. “ Galatians 5:22 – 23, [authorized King James Bible; AV]
These fruits of the spirit if Christ is to dwell in your heart with you per Ephesians 1:10, [AV] “That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,” Yes, as Ephesians 5:8 – 10 shows, [AV] “For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: 9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) 10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.” And James 3:17, says with respect the wisdom from above, [AV] “But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.”
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[3] THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES, SPECIFICALLT CAMPOMANESIA XANTHOCARPA O
Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the, Campomanesia xanthocarpa O, Characterization of Odor-Active Compounds in Gabiroba Fruits (Campomanesia xanthocarpa O. Berg)
By:
Daniele De Freitas Ferreira
Deborah Dos Santos Garruti
Juliano Smanioto Barin
Alexandre José Cichoski
Roger Wagner
First published: 29 October 2015
Abstract
Headspace solid-phase microextraction was used for isolation of the volatile compounds from gabiroba fruit (Campomanesia xanthocarpa O. Berg) and further quantification by gas chromatography–flame ionization detector and identification by gas chromatography/mass spectrometry and gas chromatography–olfactometry (GC-O). The odor-active compounds were evaluated using the Osme technique. Seventy-nine compounds were identified, from which 39 presented odor activity detected by the judges in GC-O analysis. The major compounds were (E)-2-hexenal, ethanol, ethyl hexanoate, hexanal, ethyl butanoate, hexanoic acid, 1-hexanol, (E)-2-hexen-1-ol, linalool, 1-butanol, methyl acetate and ?-terpineol, but the substances 4-hydroxy-2,5-dimethyl-2(3H)-furanone, 1-penten-3-ol, an unidentified compound, hexanal, (E,E)-2,4-hexadienal, (Z)-3-hexen-1-ol, ethyl hexanoate, ?-eudesmol, linalool and ?-eudesmol were related to the aroma of this fruit. The green and sweet notes were perceived in high frequency of description and intensity, and they were considered important for the characteristic gabiroba aroma.
Practical Applications
Gabiroba is a native fruit from South America with an intense and pleasant flavor, but there is a few information regarding to its chemical profile of volatile compounds. In this work, the compounds that better represent the gabiroba aroma (odor-active substances) were determined by olfactometric analysis. This information was crucial for sensory characterization of fruit and could be used as a tool for evaluation of processing and postharvest quality.
Introduction
Brazil has an abundance of native fruits, which are rich in aromas and flavors, presenting great potential to be economically explored (Franco and Janzantti 2005). The interest of consumers in these fruits is increasing, mainly because of their nutritional value and pleasant sensory characteristics (Oliveira et al. 2006). Among several native plants of Brazilian flora, the Myrtaceae could be highlighted as one of the most studied families (Nakamura et al. 2010) presenting a pleasant and intense aroma (Pino et al. 2001; Guedes et al. 2004; Osorio et al. 2006; Quijano and Pino 2007). Nowadays, some fruits of this family are commercialized, such as guava (Psidium guajava L.), pitanga (Eugenia uniflora L.) and jabuticaba (Myrciaria jabuticaba), but several Myrtaceae fruits have still been poorly explored, such as gabiroba (Campomanesia xanthocarpa O. Berg).
The gabiroba tree grows naturally in the cerrado biome and it is found around all South, Midwest and Southeast Brazil as well as in other South American countries such as Uruguay, Paraguay and Argentina. The harvest period ranges from November to December (Biavatti et al. 2004), but gabiroba fruits are highly perishable and could be stored for only 6 days because of the lack of postharvest treatments (Campos et al. 2012). Gabiroba is a small and round fruit, with color ranging from green to orange, and it presents an intense aroma, considered pleasant and citric (Santos et al. 2013). It is also a rich source of vitamins (mainly vitamin C), minerals (Vallilo et al. 2008), phenolic compounds and antioxidants (mainly carotenoids) (Pereira et al. 2012). The fruit is consumed generally in natura, but it can be also useful for making juice (Santos 2011), jam (Santos et al. 2013) and wine (Duarte et al. 2010). However, the transformation of fruits into industrialized products could be improved by the identification of volatile compounds that carry the unique character of their natural flavor being an important parameter for choosing the best processing method.
Several volatile compounds, such as esters, aldehydes, alcohols, terpenes and their derivatives (Bicas et al. 2011) are involved in the flavor of fruits, which is the sensory characteristic that plays a key role in the acceptability of consumers (Galvão et al. 2011). Among the several volatile compounds present in food, only few of them actually contribute to the overall perceived odor, making the characterization of the odoriferous components a relevant step in flavor research (Zellner et al. 2008). For this purpose, gas chromatography–olfactometry (GC-O) is an effective tool used for the measurement of odor quality and the identification of odor-active compounds (Zellner et al. 2008), which could be classified into three main groups: dilution, detection frequency and time–intensity methods. Osme (from the Greek word meaning smell) is a time–intensity approach considered as satisfactory for GC-O analysis using judges for direct estimation of the odor intensity and time duration of each compound, and reports the odor description perceived (Miranda-Lopez et al. 1992; Garruti et al. 2003). Contrarily to combined hedonic aroma response measurement analysis (CHARM) (Acree et al. 1984) and aroma extraction dilution analysis (AEDA) (Schieberle and Grosch 1987), Osme is not based on odor detection thresholds but on Stevens’ power law, which is a psychophysical law that explains the relationship between the perceived intensity and the odorant concentration (Guen et al. 2008; Zellner et al. 2008).
The objectives of this study were to characterize the volatile compounds of the gabiroba pulp headspace using the headspace solid-phase microextraction (HS-SPME) sampling technique and to determine the key-odor compounds by means of the Osme technique. The identification of volatile compounds from gabiroba fruit headspace was performed and the key volatile compounds that carry the unique character of its natural flavor were determined. ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM ON 3/17/2018]
Seed can be obtained from Tradewind, and here is their catalog description, 3091 - Campomanesia lineatifolia - Perfume Guava
A beautiful guava relative with strongly aromatic, flattened fruits that have an edible, creamy pulp that is mildly sweet and acidic. Small to medium sized tree up to 20-30 feet. Attractive foliage, flowers and fruits make this a desirable tree. Frost hardy to 28-32F, probably slightly less hardy than the tropical guava.
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