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MUSLIMS FAIL TO POLICE THEIR OWN BUT PROTEST WHEN OTHERS DO IT OUT OF
MUSLIMS FAIL TO POLICE THEIR OWN BUT PROTEST WHEN OTHERS DO IT OUT OF NECESSITY;
INTRODUCTION:
Islam is responsible for 90 to 95% of religious inspired violence in the world [source - The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 and as of 10/14/2012]. .REALITY, as one writer commented on it as follows, “I've long held the belief that violence propagated using Islam as a justification is the sole domain of relatively small, vocal, unfortunately violent minority extremist groups. Yet, it seems to me that Islamic violence occurs in a lot more than just a small outlier group. The recent rioting over the anti-Mohammad youtube video has occurred in places as diverse as Belgium, Australia, Pakistan, Egypt and Libya, and in great numbers, even in modern Western democracies such as Australia.
So why? What is it about this particular cultural group that moves them to anger and violence so easily? I am not some nutty right wing conspiracy theorist prattling on about global Muslim Brotherhood conspiracies or other such nonsense but I think there must be some underlying reason, political, cultural, something.
So why? I have yet to see such angry mobs of Christians taking to the streets when they are insulted, and some individuals say things about the Holy Mother that would get them punched in the face if they said it about a normal person's mother. Even the American evangelicals, a nutty bunch in their own right, didn't start attacking Canadian embassies when Canada legalized gay marriage. Similarly, though legitimate criticisms can be leveled at the conduct of the Israeli government, I have yet to hear of any outstanding instances of Judaic religious mob violence. The Buddhists and the Hindus, the Shintoists and Baha'ists, the Sikhs and the Wiccans and all of the sundry religious groups of the world, for the most part, they seem to be a fairly level-headed group, as I'd like to think most humans are. And yet I don't hear about very much sectarian violence amongst all those other faiths at all. The directors of "Jesus Camp" weren't sent death threats, and they weren't attacked and killed as Theo van Gogh was.
So why? What's the reason for Islamic violence? And is there anything we can do about it other than appeasing them by giving in to their ridiculous demands? Obviously the Western world cannot and must not ever bow to demands about things so ridiculously 11th century as "blasphemy laws", but what action can we take, if any at all?
Please, no hate speech, no advocating for genocide, none of that crap. I had hoped this thread would be one for serious analysis, thought and reflection about the nature of modern Islamic violence and potential solutions. If you have nothing to say other than hate and bile, then keep it to yourself. Lord knows, we hear enough of that in the world as it is.†[source - retrieved from on 10/14/2012]
But the real question should be WHY DOES ISLAM NOT POLICE ITS OWN?
REALITY – ISLAM BLAMES OTHERS WHEN THEY ARE FORCED TO ACT DUE TO ISLAM’S FAILURE TO POLICE ITS OWN:
I once posted the following with respect to an atrocity:
Taliban's "Radio Mullah" sent hit squad after Pakistani schoolgirl
PESHAWAR, Pakistan (Reuters) - One of the Taliban's most feared commanders, Maulana Fazlullah, carefully briefed two killers from his special hit squad on their next target.
The gunmen weren't going after any army officer, politician or Western diplomat. Their target was a 14-year-old Pakistani schoolgirl who had angered the Taliban by speaking out for "Western"-style girls' education.
Tuesday's shooting of Malala Yousufzai was the culmination of years of campaigning that had pitted the fearless, smiling young girl against one of Pakistan's most ruthless Taliban commanders.
Their story began in 2009, when Fazlullah, known as Radio Mullah for his fiery radio broadcasts, took over Swat Valley, and ordered the closure of girls' schools, including Yousufzai's.
Outraged, the then-11-year-old kept a blog for the BBC under a pen name and later launched a campaign for girls' education. It won her Pakistan's highest civilian honor and death threats from the Taliban.
Yousufzai was not blind to the dangers. In her hometown of Mingora, Fazlullah's Taliban fighters dumped bodies near where her family lived.
"I heard my father talking about another three bodies lying at Green Chowk," she wrote in her diary, referring to a nearby roundabout.
A military offensive pushed Fazlullah out of Swat in 2009, but his men simply melted away across the border to Afghanistan. Earlier this year, they kidnapped and beheaded 17 Pakistani soldiers in one of several cross border raids.
Yousufzai continued speaking out despite the danger. As her fame grew, Fazlullah tried everything he could to silence her. The Taliban published death threats in the newspapers and slipped them under her door. But she ignored them.
The Taliban say that's why they sent assassins, despite a tribal code forbidding the killing of women.
"We had no intentions to kill her but were forced when she would not stop (speaking against us)," said Sirajuddin Ahmad, a spokesman of Swat Taliban now based in Afghanistan's Kunar province.
He said the Taliban held a meeting a few months ago at which they unanimously agreed to kill her. The task was then given to military commanders to carry out.
The militia has a force of around 100 men specialized in targeted killing, fighters said. They chose two men, aged between 20-30, who were locals from Swat Valley.
The gunmen had proved their worth in previous assassinations, killing an opposition politician and attacking a leading hotelier for "obscenity" in promoting tourism.
Their trademark is to kill by shots to the head.
Such hits, although dangerous, are also a badge of honor among the Taliban. The fighters who carry them out often receive personal calls of congratulations from senior leaders and may also get cash or guns.
Now it was Yousufzai's turn.
"Before the attack, the two fighters personally collected information about Malala's route to school, timing, the vehicle she used and her security," Ahmad said.
They decided to shoot her near a military checkpoint to make the point they could strike anywhere, he said.
On Tuesday, the two men stopped the bus she was riding home in. They asked for Yousufzai by name. Although the frightened girls said she wasn't there, the men fired at her and also hit two other girls in the van. One of them remains in critical condition.
Shot in the head and the neck, Yousufzai still lies unconscious in hospital, unaware that world leaders from U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon to U.S. President Barack Obama have pledged support. Schoolchildren in Swat prayed for her recovery.
"The American people are shocked by this deplorable shooting of a girl who was targeted because she dared to attend school," a statement from the White House said.
On Wednesday, the singer Madonna dedicated a song to Yousufzai during a L.A. concert. In a gesture that bemused many Pakistanis, she performed a striptease that revealed Yousufzai's first name, Malala, written across her back.
Her would-be killers said they had no idea their attack would propel their victim, already a national hero, into a global icon.
"Actually the media gave it so much importance and now even Ban Ki-moon used dirty language against us," Ahmad said. The international community stayed silent when the Pakistani security forces killed women during a crackdown, he complained.
Now that they had failed to kill Yousufzai, they would target her father, Ahmad said.
Ziauddin Yousufzai, the headmaster of a girls' school, is on their hit list for speaking against them, his activities to promote peace in the region and for encouraging his daughter.
"We have a clear-cut stance. Anyone who takes side with the government against us will have to die at our hands," Ahmad warned. "You will see. Other important people will soon become victims."
(Writing by Katharine Houreld) [source - retrieved from on 10/12/2012]
Do you agree with many Muslims that girls should not receive an education? I do NOT!â€
But instead of getting an answer, I simply got an off subject reply complaining when others are forced to act due to Islam’s refusal to police their own, as follows:
““"If Malala had been killed in a drone attack, you would neither have heard updates on her medical status, nor would she be called ‘daughter of the nation,’ nor would the media make a fuss about her. General Kiyani would not have come to visit her and neither would the world media be constantly reporting on it. The pliant Western media and its liberals do not give even 1% of this attention to the Pakistani and Yemeni girls their government kills with drones everyday. Even humanitarian outrage, they only express it when it serves the interests of their snake governments."
Notice complete failure to deal with the atrocity committed against Malala, and to inject another element into the discussion. However, this element proves my point that Islam fails to police its own members as no drone attacks would be necessary if they were doing their own policing. In fact, no drones or NATO troops would even be in the area, Afghanistan and Pakistan if members of Islam had not committed evil and wicked attack and destruction of the World Trade Center (WTC) as no policing action would be necessary [see info. On this at
As of 10/14/2012]. In fact rather than take action against the evil ones behind the destruction of WTC, members of Islam in many countries were jubilant about this evil act. This clearly shows why drones are now used to take out wicked ones, but members of Islam decry what they have made necessary due to their siding with the evil ones instead of expelling them. I am sure there would be no more drone attacks if Islam did its own policing instead of forcing others into a position where they must do it.
EVIL BEND OF ISLAM IS CLEARLY SHOWN IN THE UNITED KINGDOM (UK);
The evil bend of Islam is clearly shown in the UK by members of this religion have named children’s schools after Shriek Osama bin Ladin; whereas, you do NOT see others naming schools after wicked and evil men such as Al Capone, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin, etc.
Yet these self same people in the UK falsely claim racist are harassing them when in reality they are refusing to integrate as are other immigrants such as Hindus, Buddhist, etc. Why do they not tell the truth?
EVIL TRAINING FROM YOUTH:
Now why are so many Muslims hatters and in love of violence? Simple, they have been trained by their religious leaders to be this way. For example, the Imam of the Red Mosque in Pakistan and many other clergy of Islam train their youths from infancy to be lovers of violence and hatters. Time World had this to say with respect the religious leaders at the Red Mosque, “Nearly two years after the arrest of Abdul Aziz on multiple charges of inciting violence against the state of Pakistan, the firebrand cleric of Islamabad's radical Red Mosque has returned to the pulpit with a promise that he will continue with his struggle to establish Shari'a, or Islamic law, throughout the country.†[source - retrieved from ,8599,1892254,00.html on 10 /14/2012]
So what can you expect of a religion many of whose religious leaders preach violence and educate the children to be violent? Violence.
REALITY:
If a religion fails to clean house of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suscide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who is a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Of course, Islam, is NOT the only religion that fails to take effective action against evil and wicked individuals and leaders of groups among them, another is the Catholic and Angalican churches that for many years just moved pedophiles to a new congregation when they were uncovered as the world's news media has so well identified. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.
Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.
Now let’s look at one such religion that tries to escape their responsibility for cleaning house so to speak.
ISLAM FAILS TO CLEAN HOUSE:
Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions upon themselves. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. And as previously stated, ‘Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.’
CONCLUSION:
Many are just fooling themself, it is not what either the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is the interpretation of what is written either in the Bible or the bible knockoff the Qur'an that matters and governs actions. It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff really say. People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders. Therefore, it is the religion which is at fault, irregardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an may say. Neither in so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the interpretation of their religious leaders. Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it. Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian.
Likewise the failure to clean house of evil ones puts their wrongs directly upon the organization failing to throw out evil/wicked ones when they are found out.
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